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Adam Tyner 11-04-08 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 9049822)
With other words, apparently Walmart is expanding floor space for the products that sell and shrinking exposure for those that reveal declining numbers.

...or products that may not sell as well but have much higher margins.

pro-bassoonist 11-04-08 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 9049961)
...or products that may not sell as well but have much higher margins.

:up:

Whatever description you wish to utilize justifying the fact that the biggest retailer is expanding Blu-ray exposure is fine by me. It certainly, proves a different trend than the one some posters in this thread were evidently seeing from their corner.

Pro-B

chanster 11-04-08 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 9049822)
The point is: packaged media, with Blu-ray as a spec, isn't declining. This is what you argue above. And by all means gaming is an important factor as well which the report quoted earlier proves:



With other words, apparently Walmart is expanding floor space for the products that sell and shrinking exposure for those that reveal declining numbers.

Pro-B

There you go quoting the analyst again and not the Wal-Mart Exec. Did the Wal-Mart exec say they are expanding Blu Ray?? No, no he didn't. Keep quoting the analyst, maybe one day if you quote him enough, you can go back and quote and claim it was from the Wal Mart exec.

Darth Maher 11-04-08 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Match (Post 9043126)
I wish Bluray would get rid of their digital copy disk and replace it with a standard dvd that works on any DVD player.

I know I'd have a few more Blu-ray discs in my collection if this were the case.

pro-bassoonist 11-04-08 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by chanster (Post 9050031)
There you go quoting the analyst again and not the Wal-Mart Exec. Did the Wal-Mart exec say they are expanding Blu Ray?? No, no he didn't. Keep quoting the analyst, maybe one day if you quote him enough, you can go back and quote and claim it was from the Wal Mart exec.

Of course I will be quoting the analyst. The article is a summation on the analyst's findings, not a report on an official statement released by Walmart. When such is released proving or disproving the analyst's report I will make sure to post it here. Until then I believe that I have been fairly clear in my posts in regard to the info that is supplied. Perhaps you disagree with the report since your Walmart isn't expanding its Blu-ray shelf space. But this is not a relevant point to argue at the moment as the article does not suggest that all stores are in a transition mode.

It is encouraging, however, to see that as someone who does not own a Blu-ray player yet you appear at least interested in this most recent development. Albeit, your interest is fueled by negativity.

Hopefully, there would be even more interested parties after Walmart finalizes the expansion with a slightly different mindset.

Pro-B

Supermallet 11-04-08 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by candyrocket786 (Post 9049721)
I have yet to be impressed with any PS3 Games.

However, Resistence 2 may change that.

Little Big Planet and Metal Gear Solid 4 would like to meet you.

And from what I'm hearing, Resistance 2 is just ok. I'm going to spend my time on Fallout 3.

chanster 11-04-08 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 9050192)
Of course I will be quoting the analyst. The article is a summation on the analyst's findings, not a report on an official statement released by Walmart. When such is released proving or disproving the analyst's report I will make sure to post it here. Until then I believe that I have been fairly clear in my posts in regard to the info that is supplied. Perhaps you disagree with the report since your Walmart isn't expanding its Blu-ray shelf space. But this is not a relevant point to argue at the moment as the article does not suggest that all stores are in a transition mode.

It is encouraging, however, to see that as someone who does not own a Blu-ray player yet you appear at least interested in this most recent development. Albeit, your interest is fueled by negativity.

Hopefully, there would be even more interested parties after Walmart finalizes the expansion with a slightly different mindset.

Pro-B

Actually, my enthusiasm is rooted in the old maxim "calling a spade a spade" but thanks for looking into my mind.

Vipper II 11-04-08 08:18 PM

Why is it always the same people?

Gizmo 11-04-08 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Vipper II (Post 9050729)
Why is it always the same people?

'Cause many of us will not change their stance on how they feel.

eXcentris 11-04-08 11:58 PM

Partisanship, it's the American way. :)

Jon2 11-05-08 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9051110)
'Cause many of us will not change their stance on how they feel.

Maybe they should follow the advice of Luke Skywalker to his father and "Let go of your hate."

:D2:

jiggawhat 11-05-08 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 9049698)
20GB - 150GB is still a ton of bandwhich.

SD films are typically 1GB while HDs are 3-4GB. Do you think people watch 30-40 HD films a month? Most rent a movie or two a week and thats it.

But regardless, all the "doom and gloom" over internet caps have been pretty funny. I've yet to be affected by it nor anyone else I know.

You should be worried because that's the plan of these cable companies. The problem is if you go over that 150GB you'll have to pay for whatever amount you go over and you know these dicks will gouge you like they do with cell plans.

This is the biggest obstacle of downloads of movies and will effect cable more than DSL because of the shared connections that neighborhoods have to deal with. There are a lot of renters in the nation and imagine the strain the networks are going to take if everyone is downloading movies. They'll put the kibosh on that real quick.

vlad 11-05-08 10:34 AM

Thumb drives will step in sooner or later and eliminate the disc.. but as to the format, who knows.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 11-05-08 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Jon2 (Post 9051753)
Maybe they should follow the advice of Luke Skywalker to his father and "Let go of your hate."

:D2:

Said by the guy that caused the Endor Holocaust(not necessarily bad), killed countless number of people just trying to have a life, and caused the universe to fall into Civil War.

Whatever it takes to rule the universe I guess.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 11-05-08 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by vlad (Post 9052382)
Thumb drives will step in sooner or later and eliminate the disc.. but as to the format, who knows.

I think people will prefer a disc over a device that has a higher rate of failure over time.

Qui Gon Jim 11-05-08 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 9052462)
I think people will prefer a disc over a device that has a higher rate of failure over time.

I'll bet statistics do not bear that out. With everyday use, a disc is far more prone to failure than flash memory. I see it every day at work (anecdotal, I know).

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 11-05-08 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim (Post 9052559)
I'll bet statistics do not bear that out. With everyday use, a disc is far more prone to failure than flash memory. I see it every day at work (anecdotal, I know).

If one isn't scratching the disc, standard disc and not a recordable, and storing it properly, it should last longer than a flash drive which comes closer to death with each connection.

I've had no DVD movies die as opposed to 2 USB drives die on me. Just curious, but how many discs have you had die? I'm also talking about DVD movies and not recordable media which probably won't last as long and we are talking about the format of movies and god help us all if the studios try to save money by using DVD+/-R discs for future releases.

This is all I found on flash drives

So, to sum everything up: Given you don’t physically ruin your drive, you have about 1,500 connections and about 10,000 write cycles before you can expect the USB life cycle to become questionable.
edit: Here's your 2GB flash memory drive with Ghostbusters that costs over $60
http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/0...s-usb-thu.html

Jon2 11-05-08 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 9052459)
Said by the guy that caused the Endor Holocaust(not necessarily bad), killed countless number of people just trying to have a life, and caused the universe to fall into Civil War.

Whatever it takes to rule the universe I guess.

I think you missed my point and are confusing Anakin (Darth Vader) with Luke.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 11-05-08 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jon2 (Post 9053539)
I think you missed my point and are confusing Anakin (Darth Vader) with Luke.

No, that was all Luke's doing. He's kind of the do as I say, not as I do kind of guy.

Drexl 11-05-08 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mister Peepers (Post 9053181)
If one isn't scratching the disc, standard disc and not a recordable, and storing it properly, it should last longer than a flash drive which comes closer to death with each connection.

I've had no DVD movies die as opposed to 2 USB drives die on me. Just curious, but how many discs have you had die? I'm also talking about DVD movies and not recordable media which probably won't last as long and we are talking about the format of movies and god help us all if the studios try to save money by using DVD+/-R discs for future releases.

I don't think that would be a problem for a movie though. You wouldn't be using it every day like a flash drive for transferring data, assuming it's one solid-state device per title. Are you actually going to watch it over 1,000 times?

Unless, of course, you're talking about the stupid (IMHO) idea of using a single flash drive to download movies at kiosks. I don't understand why some people think that would take off when we could just download the movies at home.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi 11-06-08 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 9053965)
I don't think that would be a problem for a movie though. You wouldn't be using it every day like a flash drive for transferring data, assuming it's one solid-state device per title. Are you actually going to watch it over 1,000 times?

Out of the 2 SanDisK drives I bought that died, 1 died within a month and the other died within a week. All my other brands(not SanDisk) are still alive and I've had them for years.

I don't even know what the reference was to the drive being used. It seems silly in the first place since we'd have to buy new devices with usb drives so we could watch movies on our tv.


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