Interview with the Vampire - Soft Picture & Lossy DD Only
09-22-08 | 04:06 PM
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I'm going to get some heat for this.
To be honest, I tend to agree with this which gets me in very hot water with the audiophiles. I really don't think most people can tell the difference and most of the hype over it is really more placebo effect than real difference.
If you have done a double blind test and successfully picked out the lossless track over the "lossy" one, then, OK, maybe I'd buy it. If you're one of those people that can tell a 256kbps mp3 or a 320kbsp over a 192kbps one in a double-blind test, then, maybe I'd buy that you're one of those 1% golden ear people.
Me, I top out at about 192kbps on mp3s.
I don't really care, and I'll pick this up when it gets cheaper like I always do.
That all said, I think if there is space, there's no good reason not to drop in at least a higher bitrate DD5.1 track or lossless. Porting the DVD track is just laziness and being cheap. If nothing else including a lossless track makes it so I don't have to listen to the audiophile folks whine
To be honest, I tend to agree with this which gets me in very hot water with the audiophiles. I really don't think most people can tell the difference and most of the hype over it is really more placebo effect than real difference.
If you have done a double blind test and successfully picked out the lossless track over the "lossy" one, then, OK, maybe I'd buy it. If you're one of those people that can tell a 256kbps mp3 or a 320kbsp over a 192kbps one in a double-blind test, then, maybe I'd buy that you're one of those 1% golden ear people.
Me, I top out at about 192kbps on mp3s.
I don't really care, and I'll pick this up when it gets cheaper like I always do.That all said, I think if there is space, there's no good reason not to drop in at least a higher bitrate DD5.1 track or lossless. Porting the DVD track is just laziness and being cheap. If nothing else including a lossless track makes it so I don't have to listen to the audiophile folks whine
Wasn't that what Blu-ray is/was supposed to represent? Add a freaking second layer for crying out loud!
If studios float trial balloon releases like this and discover they sell whether or not they have lossless audio, or whether or not they have all their SD special features, guess what they're going to continue to do for future releases?
Not that I'm whining. Or an audiophile.
09-22-08 | 04:40 PM
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I just remain unconvinced that people can really hear a difference. The last time I got into it with the real audiophiles it was about 24bit vs 16bit audio...and on AVS a few times with people insisting that Blu-ray PCM was better than TrueHD / DTS-MA. Damn but it is hard to convince people of hard scientific fact.
I just find it unlikely that 99% of folks can really hear a difference, just like the HTF reviewer.
But hey, buy what you want to support. I don't buy feature-stripped BDs, you spend money on what you want to support.
But I don't really feel this is an important feature. If it's there, fine, if not, fine.
I just find it unlikely that 99% of folks can really hear a difference, just like the HTF reviewer.
But hey, buy what you want to support. I don't buy feature-stripped BDs, you spend money on what you want to support.
But I don't really feel this is an important feature. If it's there, fine, if not, fine.
09-23-08 | 03:02 PM
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09-23-08 | 03:35 PM
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I don't think there are any Warner Blu-ray movies with DTS, are there? The DVD was a part of a small sample of trial DVDs containing a DTS track (including Twister, and maybe Lethal Weapon, among others). From their analysis back then, I believe Warner determined that DD at 448 and DTS at 1536 were identical and indistinguishable.
09-23-08 | 03:40 PM
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09-23-08 | 07:57 PM
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Warner determined the presence of DTS on a dvd didn't increase sales enough to justify the added production cost. It had nothing to do with sound quality though their marketing reps might have tried to pass off that malarkey.
09-23-08 | 08:06 PM
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I'm going to get some heat for this.
To be honest, I tend to agree with this which gets me in very hot water with the audiophiles. I really don't think most people can tell the difference and most of the hype over it is really more placebo effect than real difference.
If you have done a double blind test and successfully picked out the lossless track over the "lossy" one, then, OK, maybe I'd buy it. If you're one of those people that can tell a 256kbps mp3 or a 320kbsp over a 192kbps one in a double-blind test, then, maybe I'd buy that you're one of those 1% golden ear people.
Me, I top out at about 192kbps on mp3s. I don't really care, and I'll pick this up when it gets cheaper like I always do.
That all said, I think if there is space, there's no good reason not to drop in at least a higher bitrate DD5.1 track or lossless. Porting the DVD track is just laziness and being cheap. If nothing else including a lossless track makes it so I don't have to listen to the audiophile folks whine
To be honest, I tend to agree with this which gets me in very hot water with the audiophiles. I really don't think most people can tell the difference and most of the hype over it is really more placebo effect than real difference.
If you have done a double blind test and successfully picked out the lossless track over the "lossy" one, then, OK, maybe I'd buy it. If you're one of those people that can tell a 256kbps mp3 or a 320kbsp over a 192kbps one in a double-blind test, then, maybe I'd buy that you're one of those 1% golden ear people.
Me, I top out at about 192kbps on mp3s.
I don't really care, and I'll pick this up when it gets cheaper like I always do.That all said, I think if there is space, there's no good reason not to drop in at least a higher bitrate DD5.1 track or lossless. Porting the DVD track is just laziness and being cheap. If nothing else including a lossless track makes it so I don't have to listen to the audiophile folks whine
There is a huge difference. The latest example for me is Superman Returns. The PCM track completely destroys the DD 5.1 audio.
09-23-08 | 10:09 PM
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Just so I have this correct, you're saying you don't think people could tell the difference between Dolby Digital 5.1 and PCM/TrueHD/DTS HD MA?
There is a huge difference. The latest example for me is Superman Returns. The PCM track completely destroys the DD 5.1 audio.
There is a huge difference. The latest example for me is Superman Returns. The PCM track completely destroys the DD 5.1 audio.
I'm not entirely confident on this like I am with regard to SACD/DVD-A vs 16-bit redbook CD...or super high bitrate (say 320kbps) mp3 vs CD. I just haven't seen much in the way of evidence to show that this is any different from those...it seems like pretty much the same thing, but the extra channels of audio might make it more perceptible than the former.
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09-24-08 | 08:01 AM
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I don't think there are any Warner Blu-ray movies with DTS, are there? The DVD was a part of a small sample of trial DVDs containing a DTS track (including Twister, and maybe Lethal Weapon, among others). From their analysis back then, I believe Warner determined that DD at 448 and DTS at 1536 were identical and indistinguishable.
Edit, looks like someone else wrote something similar above. Sorry to pile on.
09-18-14 | 04:53 PM
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Re: Interview with the Vampire - Soft Picture & Lossy DD Only
word is that the new edition of the bluray (out Sept. 30) DOES have lossless DTS HD MA sound, but the video encode is the same ... why Warner's? why??
supplements:
- NEW - Lestat, Louis, and the Vampire Phenomenon: A conversation with author Anne Rice about her influence on the new wave of vampires as heroes and anti-heroes.
- Director's Commentary with Neil Jordan
- In the Shadow of the Vampire
- Introduction by Anne Rice, Neil Jordan and Antonio Banderas
- Theatrical Trailer
09-18-14 | 05:15 PM
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Re: Interview with the Vampire - Soft Picture & Lossy DD Only
See, this is why I welcome 4K, even if I may not get into it for a while. Warner rarely remasters titles that are already HD, but 4K might get them to do a new transfer of titles like this one and Goodfellas, Unforgiven, etc.
BTW, I don't like the new cover art; it's too bright for the film.
BTW, I don't like the new cover art; it's too bright for the film.
09-18-14 | 06:09 PM
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Re: Interview with the Vampire - Soft Picture & Lossy DD Only
word is that the new edition of the bluray (out Sept. 30) DOES have lossless DTS HD MA sound, but the video encode is the same ... why Warner's? why??
supplements:
- NEW - Lestat, Louis, and the Vampire Phenomenon: A conversation with author Anne Rice about her influence on the new wave of vampires as heroes and anti-heroes.
- Director's Commentary with Neil Jordan
- In the Shadow of the Vampire
- Introduction by Anne Rice, Neil Jordan and Antonio Banderas
- Theatrical Trailer
nm...found it @ Best Buy. yay!
09-18-14 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Interview with the Vampire - Soft Picture & Lossy DD Only
That is a terrible new cover, oh well. The lossless sound is nice but this movie desperately needed to be remastered.
09-19-14 | 11:04 AM
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09-19-14 | 08:38 PM
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