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tonymontana313 09-11-08 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 8932268)
Gotcha. Not all too surprising since the only other things that came out that day on DVD were TV on DVD shows like Office, Desperate Housewives and Supernatural. Curious to see how many units it moved, but I doubt we'll be privy to that information.

Actually those are all pretty popular shows, especially the Office. The Best Buys I went to was definitely understocked on Transformers BD since they were sold out by the time I got there after work but the associate said they only received 6 or 7 per store. So I ended getting mine on Amazon and it still looks like Transformers Bd is still in the top ten.

bunkaroo 09-11-08 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by tonymontana313 (Post 8932393)
Actually those are all pretty popular shows, especially the Office. The Best Buys I went to was definitely understocked on Transformers BD since they were sold out by the time I got there after work but the associate said they only received 6 or 7 per store. So I ended getting mine on Amazon and it still looks like Transformers Bd is still in the top ten.

I was able to get my copy from Best Buy the Thursday prior to release and they had 22 according to their computer. Still doesn't seem like a lot though.

tonymontana313 09-11-08 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 8932454)
I was able to get my copy from Best Buy the Thursday prior to release and they had 22 according to their computer. Still doesn't seem like a lot though.

Shows how much Best Buy employees know.

Mr. Cinema 09-14-08 04:10 PM

Looks like Transformers sold about 70,000 copies last week.

Gizmo 09-14-08 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 8938660)
Looks like Transformers sold about 70,000 copies last week.

Not bad for a year old catalog title. Still that would be less than what the HD DVD sold during its opening week (and yes, I know it was a day and date release).

Mr. Cinema 10-02-08 09:28 AM

"Sex" also was the top Blu-ray Disc seller for the week, with Paramount's "Godfather Collection" a strong No. 2. "Leatherheads" debuted at No. 5 on the Nielsen VideoScan Blu-ray Disc First Alert chart.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...813a56ca8bb0a0

Gizmo 10-02-08 10:04 AM

Sex and the City outsold The Godfather Collection? Wow...that is messed up. I know the list price is obviously a bit higher on The Godfather...but damn.

kefrank 10-02-08 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 8978355)
Sex and the City outsold The Godfather Collection? Wow...that is messed up. I know the list price is obviously a bit higher on The Godfather...but damn.

I'm really not surprised. The Godfather Trilogy was priced a LOT higher and is a catalog title from the 70s that has become ubiquitous on cable and other home video formats. Sex and the City is a day and date title that did pretty huge box office. The respective quality of the movies themselves has little to do with the Blu-ray volume sales.

Mr. Cinema 10-03-08 08:40 AM

From blu-ray.com:

In an interview with Howard Stern yesterday, 'Iron Man' director John Favreau revealed that the Blu-ray release of his blockbuster hit has already broken sales records for the format. While final sales numbers won't be known until next Friday, its was widely expected that 'Iron Man' would be a huge success on the high definition format.

Gizmo 10-03-08 01:05 PM

Numbers from last week are in:
DVD 94% and BD 6%
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A huge catalog release like The Godfather Collection and it did nothing.

pro-bassoonist 10-03-08 02:30 PM

Selective postings again I see.

Blu-ray went UP 23.22% in revenue (DVD up 6.87%).

Pro-B

Gizmo 10-03-08 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 8981986)
Selective postings again I see.

Blu-ray went UP 23.22% in revenue (DVD up 6.87%).

Pro-B

$60-$70 box sets do that, friend.

Of course Blu-ray going up 23% (2.5 million) vs DVD going up 6.87% ($10 million) is a pretty big difference as well.

tonymontana313 10-03-08 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 8981821)
Numbers from last week are in:
DVD 94% and BD 6%
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/8...7152yp9.th.jpghttp://img373.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
A huge catalog release like The Godfather Collection and it did nothing.

I wouldn't necessarily call 2nd place for a 70 dollar set nothing. Considering it did go up against a day and date blockbuster (400 mil worldwide for SaTC), It did hold's it own very well and goes against the criticism that blu-ray is only an action format.

Qui Gon Jim 10-03-08 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 8981986)
Selective postings again I see.

Blu-ray went UP 23.22% in revenue (DVD up 6.87%).

Pro-B

...from the week before. It is a meaningless number as the numbers could have been down for the past three weeks before this.

I think the most telling thing, as someone who only sees these numbers when they are posted here, is that BD has gained no ground in months. It was 6% when there were weekly posts near the beginning of the year, and it is still 6%.

Qui Gon Jim 10-03-08 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by tonymontana313 (Post 8982117)
I wouldn't necessarily call 2nd place for a 70 dollar set nothing. Considering it did go up against a day and date blockbuster (400 mil worldwide for SaTC), It did hold's it own very well and goes against the criticism that blu-ray is only an action format.

Agreed. This is definitely a positive turn.

pro-bassoonist 10-04-08 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim (Post 8982308)
I think the most telling thing, as someone who only sees these numbers when they are posted here, is that BD has gained no ground in months. It was 6% when there were weekly posts near the beginning of the year, and it is still 6%.

I see. So last week's numbers are indicative of how the format performed in months.

I am looking forward to next week's chart then and your comments...again.

Pro-B

Qui Gon Jim 10-04-08 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 8983043)
I see. So last week's numbers are indicative of how the format performed in months.

I am looking forward to next week's chart then and your comments...again.

Pro-B

What I am saying is that if you look at last week's chart and you compare the DVD vs. BD percentages against a chart from early in the year, you'll see BD holding steady at around 6%. They had a nice bit of growth after HD DVD folded but little since then.

Now maybe it will be 7% next week, but if it back down to 6% the week after, then that is still steady, with very little growth. I am looking at longterm trending here. I don't think it is a downward trend, but it is not much of an upward trend either.

I am not arguing that BD did no do much better this week than last, but that is not an indication of long-term success. A hot or big title can have a big impact. I expect next week to be huge because of Iron Man. I am more interested in seeing if the format can sustain these surges.

Qui Gon Jim 10-04-08 06:50 AM

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...04may2008a.png

Here's a chart from earlier in the year, and I picked a random page and picked the first chart I saw.

Now after thinking more about this on more than an anecdotal level, I think this 6% number doesn't tell the whole story either unless both charts showed what the 6% of what number. This weeks 6% could be a much higher number of raw sales than the chart I reposted. I suppose it could also be lower.

I feel like a broken record. These numbers are all useless without a hard number at the top of the whole thing.

Mr. Cinema 10-04-08 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 8981259)
From blu-ray.com:

In an interview with Howard Stern yesterday, 'Iron Man' director John Favreau revealed that the Blu-ray release of his blockbuster hit has already broken sales records for the format. While final sales numbers won't be known until next Friday, its was widely expected that 'Iron Man' would be a huge success on the high definition format.

Gizmodo says Favreau said Iron Man has "outsold every other Blu-ray release to date."

Isn't 300 sitting around the 450,000 mark in total sales? Looks like Iron Man made a much bigger splash than we thought.

kefrank 10-04-08 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 8981821)
A huge catalog release like The Godfather Collection and it did nothing.

The Godfather Trilogy BD sold more than two thirds the number of copies that the DVD sold. I wouldn't call that "nothing."

Gizmo 10-04-08 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 8983438)
Gizmodo says Favreau said Iron Man has "outsold every other Blu-ray release to date."

Isn't 300 sitting around the 450,000 mark in total sales? Looks like Iron Man made a much bigger splash than we thought.

Or he could have meant release week.

We'll know soon enough. But should we believe it? The last time Paramount did a press release for a big title was Transformers on HD DVD and we all remember how that went over.

Qui Gon Jim 10-04-08 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by kefrank (Post 8983557)
The Godfather Trilogy BD sold more than two thirds the number of copies that the DVD sold. I wouldn't call that "nothing."

But it was also the film's bow on a new format. The films have been on DVD for a long time. A double-dip DVD vs. a "new" BD is not a great comparison. I didn't even know there was a new DVD of this series dropping this week.

kefrank 10-04-08 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim (Post 8983632)
But it was also the film's bow on a new format. The films have been on DVD for a long time. A double-dip DVD vs. a "new" BD is not a great comparison. I didn't even know there was a new DVD of this series dropping this week.

I wouldn't call it just another double-dip DVD. It's a DVD release of a massive restoration of some of the greatest films of all time. Your personal awareness of it is irrelevant.

Qui Gon Jim 10-04-08 03:09 PM

But it was already out on DVD, right? Twice before?

Why do people feel the need to compare apples to oranges? A fair comparison would be SatC: The Movie DVD vs. BD numbers. The Godfather is not a premier new release on DVD.

Gizmo 10-04-08 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim (Post 8983819)
But it was already out on DVD, right? Twice before?

Why do people feel the need to compare apples to oranges? A fair comparison would be SatC: The Movie DVD vs. BD numbers. The Godfather is not a premier new release on DVD.

IIRC, it was first released as a Trilogy set and then 6 months or a year later they were released individually at about $10-$13 each. They have been out for 7 years nows and I imagine everyone that likes The Godfather already owns the trilogy or the first and second film. Even a major restoration that Godfather went through does not mean the average consumer will feel the need to re-purchase it, especially in the economy we now live in.

Now, even if the BD sold twice as much as the DVD, looking at Sex and the City BD numbers (selling only 3% of what the DVD did) and Sex being the #1 BD of the week, would mean the BD sales of Godfather would be pretty low. If Sex sold 4 million on DVD (just a guess, but probable), that would mean the BD sold 120k, and since Godfather was a bit less then that on the charts, it may have sold 80k (DVD then doing 55k or so). Not amazing numbers for the BDs biggest catalog release of the year and with 8 million possible players out there. Of course, that's just my person opinion.

Its not an action-heavy film so I didn't expect it o pull amazing numbers like some other CGI filled releases might (Spider-Man for example).


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