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Dan 11-29-10 04:14 PM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 
My MoC copy arrived today. Might have trouble convincing the wife to watch it, though.

MTRodaba2468 11-29-10 06:47 PM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 

Originally Posted by SomethingMore (Post 10517839)
My MoC copy arrived today. Might have trouble convincing the wife to watch it, though.

I guess I'm lucky. My girlfriend is just as enthused (if not moreso) to watch it as I am...

PopcornTreeCt 11-30-10 03:29 PM

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Last night I watched a little bit of the MoC and saw a scene with women dancing in very sheer tops. I thought it was interesting to see nudity in such an old film. Great restoration work done on the film as well.

slop101 11-30-10 08:57 PM

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Just got this in the mail (Kino version), and I'm still miffed that Kino didn't even bother with a commentary track. Their freaking DVD had one, and they didn't even port that over - utterly pathetic. As always, Kino just does the bare minimum.

Doctorossi 11-30-10 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10520234)
Just got this in the mail (Kino version), and I'm still miffed that Kino didn't even bother with a commentary track. Their freaking DVD had one, and they didn't even port that over - utterly pathetic. As always, Kino just does the bare minimum.

I don't really care about a commentary; I just wish German inter-titles were at least an option.

NoirFan 11-30-10 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 10520240)
I just wish German inter-titles were at least an option.

Kino never used original language inter-titles. Yet another aspect in which MoC consistently bests them.

manicsounds 12-01-10 08:07 AM

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The old DVD's audio commentary was pretty bad. Mostly narration about what's happening on screen.... pass, go for the new Masters Of Cinema commentary. The only problem with that might be that it sounds like Kalat and Rosenbaum are in the toilet together....

Josh Z 12-01-10 10:32 AM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10519642)
Last night I watched a little bit of the MoC and saw a scene with women dancing in very sheer tops. I thought it was interesting to see nudity in such an old film. Great restoration work done on the film as well.

Nudity and semi-nudity were actually very common in the early days of cinema. It was all that licentiousness that brought about the introduction of the Hays Code in 1930.

PopcornTreeCt 12-01-10 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10521000)
Nudity and semi-nudity were actually very common in the early days of cinema. It was all that licentiousness that brought about the introduction of the Hays Code in 1930.

True. It was a first for me though, I've seen a number of silent films and can't recall seeing any nudity previously.

andicus 12-02-10 12:33 AM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 
Received my MOC dual format today. I found a great utility called Blu-ray Region Tray Tool that lets you switch between regions, and it works perfectly!

I'm really loving this BD. The noticeable degradation in image quality for the new scenes doesn't bother me in the least.

The only thing I didn't like is that one of the clips that holds the booklet in the case broke during shipping. Things like that always seem to happen to specialized cases.

Solid Snake 12-02-10 12:54 AM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 10522443)
Received my MOC dual format today. I found a great utility called Blu-ray Region Tray Tool that lets you switch between regions, and it works perfectly!

I'm really loving this BD. The noticeable degradation in image quality for the new scenes doesn't bother me in the least.

The only thing I didn't like is that one of the clips that holds the booklet in the case broke during shipping. Things like that always seem to happen to specialized cases.

whoa whoa whoa...explain that to me please. Cuz you got my fucking attention.

Dan 12-02-10 01:08 AM

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It's a software hack for PowerDVD and ArcSoft. Looks like it just changes the "BDregion" info in a .ini file. When the region is changed that way, as opposed to using PowerDVD or ArcSoft's menus to change the region, it seems like it no longer adheres to the whole "You can only change your region 5 times" policy.

andicus 12-02-10 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10522455)
whoa whoa whoa...explain that to me please. Cuz you got my fucking attention.

Hopefully I'm not going to disappoint you, but it's for PC BD drives. In my case, I'm running PowerDVD. I just right-click on the tray tool and choose the region I want to play, and then run PowerDVD and play my BD.

I found it on avsforum.

I'd love to have something for my standalone player or my PS3, but this lets me watch what I want via my PC which is hooked up to my TV.

*edit* Like SomethingMore said, except I think it's a registry value that's being updated.

Dan 12-02-10 01:12 AM

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It may be a registry value for PowerDVD, but definitely not for ArcSoft TMT. :)

Nick Danger 01-04-11 09:49 AM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 
I got the Kino BD for Christmas, and we watched it Sunday. It's a huge improvement over the previous Kino version. Not only have missing plot elements been restored, but the frames-per-second rate has been slowed so that the action looks right.

The change in projection speed makes the sexy dance more sexy, the scary sequences more disturbing, and the fight scenes more convincing. Markinnyc was right.

The added footage results in a more coherent story, and more dramatic detail. For example, the sequence where the angry mob of workers captures the false Maria has been completely reworked, so that the mob very nearly captures and kills the real Maria, and then get the false Maria only by chance.

Josh Z 01-04-11 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Danger (Post 10572764)
Not only have missing plot elements been restored, but the frames-per-second rate has been slowed so that the action looks right.

Umm, no it hasn't. :confused:

It's still 24 fps, which is the speed that the musical score syncs to.

Nick Danger 01-04-11 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 10573272)
Umm, no it hasn't. :confused:

It's still 24 fps, which is the speed that the musical score syncs to.

We watched selections from the Kino 2002 and Kino 2010 versions back to back. They are definitely displayed at different speeds. Check it out for yourself.

manicsounds 01-05-11 07:59 AM

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The old Kino disc was from a 25fps PAL source, so yes the old DVD was faster in speed.

Josh Z 01-05-11 01:48 PM

Re: Metropolis (KINO)
 

Originally Posted by manicsounds (Post 10574354)
The old Kino disc was from a 25fps PAL source, so yes the old DVD was faster in speed.

Ah, so it may be slightly slower than the DVD, but it's still faster than the original photographic speed (which was around 16 fps, but probably not constant).

The theatrical release last year was (obviously) 24fps. The speedup was quite noticeable during any scenes where characters run around.

Drop 01-06-11 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by manicsounds (Post 10574354)
The old Kino disc was from a 25fps PAL source, so yes the old DVD was faster in speed.

Noticing that 1 FPS seems impressive to me.


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