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gglass4269 04-04-09 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 9368926)
^ I thought they were cutting back on booklets and going the online route for printed supplements.

that is soooooooo false.

Dan Average 04-05-09 04:14 AM

Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays
 
Criterion themselves have said as much and they've already dropped some printed material from the BD editions of The Man Who Fell to Earth, The Third Man and The Last Emperor. (The Ran BD was also supposedly missing an essay from the DVD release, but that's a moot point for now.) I doubt we'll be seeing anything like the big fat Pandora's Box or Earrings of Madame de... booklets in the future.

theWitcher 04-05-09 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Average (Post 9369625)
I doubt we'll be seeing anything like the big fat Pandora's Box or Earrings of Madame de... booklets in the future.

I wonder if this will be a factor in what gets released when on BD vs DVD.

For example, if they have lots of great print materials for a particular title will they delay the publication of the BD version, or forgo publication altogether, if the quantity of stuff doesn't fit into a BD booklet/case (or in the case of video supplements -- on the BD disk)?

All the complaints in this thread about the now-cancelled (delayed?) 'Ran' dropping the "Kurosawa's Continuity" piece seemed to ignore the fact that the feature appears on Disk 2 of the DVD set. Criterion has previously stated that they anticipate that customers who upgrade their DVD sets will simply remove the DVD from the DVD cases and replace it with the Blu-ray disk. In this scenario, no one loses a featurette and no one loses any content from their booklets. (And it is implied that fans of Kurosawa or cinema already own these DVD special editions.)

Presumably any Blu-rays published at the same time as the DVD version will have the same content, both on the disk and in the accompanying print materials.

Dan Average 04-05-09 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by theWitcher (Post 9369697)
For example, if they have lots of great print materials for a particular title will they delay the publication of the BD version, or forgo publication altogether, if the quantity of stuff doesn't fit into a BD booklet/case (or in the case of video supplements -- on the BD disk)?

This strikes me as cutting off your nose to spite your face, seeing how Criterion claims BD makes up a disproportionate amount of their sales (in other words, BD is a higher percentage of Criterion's sales than it is in the overall market). It's far more likely that they will do exactly what they've said they'll do and put the material online instead. As for supplements, they've already dropped one major supplement from a BD release (the TV version of The Last Emperor) and of course they were going to do the same with Ran.


Originally Posted by theWitcher (Post 9369697)
All the complaints in this thread about the now-cancelled (delayed?) 'Ran' dropping the "Kurosawa's Continuity" piece seemed to ignore the fact that the feature appears on Disk 2 of the DVD set. Criterion has previously stated that they anticipate that customers who upgrade their DVD sets will simply remove the DVD from the DVD cases and replace it with the Blu-ray disk. In this scenario, no one loses a featurette and no one loses any content from their booklets. (And it is implied that fans of Kurosawa or cinema already own these DVD special editions.)

That's a pretty lame assumption, if that is indeed what they're assuming. I never bought the Criterion Ran -- I bought the admittedly crappy Wellspring release, watched it once, and never felt compelled to watch it again -- but I most likely would've picked up the BD. In any case it's not like they dropped the other disc 2 supplements from the BD release, hence the deletion of that one particular supplement being a bit of a sore spot for folks. It's also short-term thinking, since over the years a sizable number of new viewers will come around to Kurosawa (or whoever) and those viewers will be increasingly inclined to go for the BD edition as the HD market matures.

MTRodaba2468 04-05-09 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TLwizard (Post 9356305)
This is equivalent to them releasing The Rock and Armaggedon... except those were good movies.

I just hope this means that Criterion has a Fincher deal and will be releasing The Game.

With all due respect...

:down: :down:

...on both counts (I know I'm in the minority here, but I just don't see The Game as that good of a movie).

DonnachaOne 04-05-09 07:06 PM

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With all due respect...

... "due" respect.

PopcornTreeCt 04-05-09 07:07 PM

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I didn't care much for The Game. It ranks just a tad higher than Alien 3 for me.

MTRodaba2468 04-05-09 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 9370510)
With all due respect...

... "due" respect.

Not much sleep this weekend. :whofart: Fixed.

GoldenJCJ 04-06-09 05:04 PM

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Ok, so I just received my SD version of Ran and I'm about to unwrap it so the Blu-ray hold up should be resolved in the next day or two. ;)

tlwizard 04-06-09 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468 (Post 9370472)
With all due respect...

:down: :down:

...on both counts (I know I'm in the minority here, but I just don't see The Game as that good of a movie).

I don't think The Game is his best movie but I think it's better then Button, and Fight Club/Seven already have super duper editions out.

And I'm all for Criterion releasing Button if it allows them to keep doing what they do in general (btw I can't wait for In the Realm of the Senses). I just don't want all the people who have been poo-pooing on Armaggedon and The Rock all this time to delude themselves into thinking they are buying a better quality movie with Button. But, perhaps another thread should be started discussing how Fincher has started to lose his ability and interest in story as he has further pursued technical niches in film (starting with Panic Room, continuing downhill with Zodiac, and ending here at the bottom with Button.)

I will also take this time to say how easy a transition Criterion is making it to switch to Blu-ray. First off, their DVD releases have consistently maintained their value. Even their OOP titles have either gone up in value, or even if rereleased, have kept a big chunk of what they were worth. On top of this, the blu-rays are priced evenly with the DVD releases. So it's a no brainer not to switch, although it is a bummer when some important extra features aren't ported over, and I'm still confused as why that has to happen that way. But, in regards to Blu-ray, and some of their packaging aside, Criterion has provided the easiest and happiest double-dips from me.

tlwizard 04-06-09 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cgray (Post 9367068)
I agree it's probably Kagemusha, but eye candy (Dreams) in hi-def wouldn't be all bad. I think some of the scenes/colors in Dreams are pretty stunning. Maybe I'm in the minority here.

I'm in your camp. And I think that Dreams is a lot more than just eye candy and for that reason would be deserving of the Criterion treatment to provide the scholarly support for this. It's very easy to watch some of his other movies and understand why they were made or why they are important, but I think that Dreams is much more elusive and therefore unfairly and prematurely written off.

Overpar 04-07-09 10:25 AM

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Some scans are up at DVD Empire...

http://images.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/1449231h.jpg
http://images.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/1449231bh.jpg

ccfixx 04-08-09 11:17 AM

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If anyone hasn't seen it, yet, Pro-B has a review up for "In The Realm Of The Senses over at blu-ray.com. Sorry, still can't post links.

CC

PopcornTreeCt 04-08-09 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 9376321)
If anyone hasn't seen it, yet, a review for "In The Realm Of The Senses is up over at blu-ray.com. Sorry, still can't post links.

CC

Thanks for the heads up!

Giles 04-08-09 11:55 AM

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the screencaps for 'Realm of the Senses' are astounding!

ccfixx 04-08-09 03:50 PM

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DVDBeaver has their comparison review up for "The Wages Of Fear" now, too.

CC

NoirFan 04-08-09 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 9377015)
DVDBeaver has their comparison review up for "The Wages Of Fear" now, too.

Here it is.

DVD Guy ATL 04-08-09 06:21 PM

Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays
 

Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 9376321)
If anyone hasn't seen it, yet, Pro-B has a review up for "In The Realm Of The Senses over at blu-ray.com. Sorry, still can't post links.

CC

Too bad he spoiled the ending of the film for those of us who haven't seen it. Some sort of warning would have been appreciated. :(

NoirFan 04-08-09 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 9376321)
If anyone hasn't seen it, yet, Pro-B has a review up for "In The Realm Of The Senses over at blu-ray.com.

Here it is.

anomynous 04-08-09 07:35 PM

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Here's an update on the new cases with already released movies:



Dear ****,


Thank you for your email and for your kind words about our company! Currently, we do not have any plans to change the packaging of the early Blu-ray releases, but it is something we are considering. Please feel free to email me should you have any other questions!


Sincerely,


Jon Mulvaney

DVD Guy ATL 04-08-09 08:00 PM

Re: Criterion releases on Blu-Rays
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 9377445)
Here's an update on the new cases with already released movies [...]

I guess that's the price of being an early supporter. Ah well, thanks for checking and planting a seed at least.

NoirFan 04-09-09 12:44 AM

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DVD Beaver on In the Realm of the Senses- screencaps NSFW

PopcornTreeCt 04-09-09 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9377871)
DVD Beaver on In the Realm of the Senses- screencaps NSFW

Greatest. Menu Shot. Ever.

ccfixx 04-09-09 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 9378538)
Greatest. Menu Shot. Ever.

I agree, Popcorn... that is one good "shot." ;)

CC

ccfixx 04-16-09 02:09 PM

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They're in!!!!!!!!!! "For All Mankind" and "Repulsion"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CC


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