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Drexl 05-28-08 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by mdc3000
Glad to see the Jack Ryan's confirmed and Beowulf...but Paramount, where the fuck is INTO THE WILD and ZODIAC!? (not to mention Sweeney!)

Yeah, those are the three I want from them. I'd also like them to release Saturday Night Fever since it was cancelled last year.

matome 05-28-08 08:37 AM

Listed at DVDEmpire:

Afro Samurai: Season 1 Director's Cut 8/1
<strike>Helvetica 6/10</strike> released 5/6


Looking forward big time to the Jack Ryans, hopefully individual as I'm only so-so on Sum of All Fears. But I'd buy the set in a heartbeat if I had to. Of course I already bought the UK BD of Beowulf.

Adam Tyner 05-28-08 09:09 AM

I thought Helvetica was already out. High Def Digest posted their review a while ago.

matome 05-28-08 09:11 AM

Hmm, looks like you're right, as Amazon has it as a 5/6 release and in stock. DVDEmpire just put it up for preorder :confused:

Giles 05-28-08 09:15 AM

so can we assume the Beowulf disc will have Dolby TrueHD then??

Gizmo 05-28-08 09:21 AM

Madagascar looks great...everything else...yawn. Where are the new titles Paramount? Sweeny Todd? Catalog titles?

matome 05-28-08 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Giles
so can we assume the Beowulf disc will have Dolby TrueHD then??

Certainly looking that way. My UK disc has it and it's friggin awesome. I also had the HD DVD which was great with the DD+, but the BD was even better.

bunkaroo 05-28-08 09:24 AM

Hmmm - TrueHD and PCM on Transformers?

Are they trying to make a point about capacity? Seems like you don't need both.

I'd love to sell my somewhat rare Jack Ryan HD DVD set, but the pessimist in me says to wait until the BD's are actually in my hands. Hopefully they've done something to correct the transfer of Sum of All fears, which looked not so hot.

Adam Tyner 05-28-08 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Are they trying to make a point about capacity? Seems like you don't need both.

You don't need TrueHD and DTS-HD MA on one disc either, but Close Encounters... did it. As long as having both doesn't negatively impact quality any, go ahead and be redundant. :)

bunkaroo 05-28-08 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
You don't need TrueHD and DTS-HD MA on one disc either, but Close Encounters... did it. As long as having both doesn't negatively impact quality any, go ahead and be redundant. :)

My only concern would be, on a film of this length, I'd rather they make sure the video encode doesn't get crowded by two lossless tracks, especially since it seems like interactive stuff will be there (Not sure how much that takes up).

I would think Transformers was a more difficult compression job than CE3K.

applesandrice 05-28-08 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
You don't need TrueHD and DTS-HD MA on one disc either, but Close Encounters... did it. As long as having both doesn't negatively impact quality any, go ahead and be redundant. :)


You kind of do need both, though, since many people don't have systems which can play one (or both) of those. They have to sell to a bunch of consumers whose players may not decode lossless audio and/or bitstream it to a receiver which will.

Gizmo 05-28-08 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by applesandrice
You kind of do need both, though, since many people don't have systems which can play one (or both) of those. They have to sell to a bunch of consumers whose players may not decode lossless audio and/or bitstream it to a receiver which will.

If thats true then they should be putting Uncompressed and TrueHD/DTS MA on all future release then. Fox seems more then happy to put DTS MA on all of their releases, before even a BD player could even decode it. Why not just dump the Uncompressed track in favor of the DD+ one from the HD DVD?

bunkaroo 05-28-08 10:15 AM

Going over the specs again, I see the DD+ track listed. I know some BD players can decode it, but I wonder why they're including that AND a standard 5.1 track?

Gizmo 05-28-08 10:18 AM

It appears the listing may not be final. Seems almost retarded to include 4 different Audio tracks like that.

True_Story1011 05-28-08 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
It appears the listing may not be final. Seems almost retarded to include 4 different Audio tracks like that.


then call me Corky.

I hope they keep 'em on there! ;)

applesandrice 05-28-08 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
If thats true then they should be putting Uncompressed and TrueHD/DTS MA on all future release then. Fox seems more then happy to put DTS MA on all of their releases, before even a BD player could even decode it. Why not just dump the Uncompressed track in favor of the DD+ one from the HD DVD?


I thought of that -- honest. But remember also how so many people here were complaining that Fox should be including a TrueHD and/or PCM track because there weren't -- at that point -- any players that could decode DTS-MA?

To be sure, I think the inclusion of multiple lossless tracks is more of a "look what we can do" marketing gimmick. You must admit, though, that there is a level of convenience for the consumer -- whether or not it was intended by the studios -- when multiple formats of lossless sound are included on a given release. Some people have analog 5.1 (or 7.1) outs, some don't. Some have players that decode the advanced audio codecs (whether one or all), and some don't. Some have players that bitstream and some don't. Some have players that don't bitstream but can decode, yet have no analog 5.1 (or 7.1) outs.

That said, the inclusion of multiple choices does actually help at least some of their consumers, who wouldn't otherwise be able to play back lossless audio if they'd only been given one choice.

bunkaroo 05-28-08 10:35 AM

I hope the DD+ track, assuming it is 1.5Mbps, is left on, as that would an even easier way to compare it to the lossless tracks.

Gizmo 05-28-08 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by applesandrice
I thought of that -- honest. But remember also how so many people here were complaining that Fox should be including a TrueHD and/or PCM track because there weren't -- at that point -- any players that could decode DTS-MA?

To be sure, I think the inclusion of multiple lossless tracks is more of a "look what we can do" marketing gimmick. You must admit, though, that there is a level of convenience for the consumer -- whether or not it was intended by the studios -- when multiple formats of lossless sound are included on a given release. Some people have analog 5.1 (or 7.1) outs, some don't. Some have players that decode the advanced audio codecs (whether one or all), and some don't. Some have players that bitstream and some don't. Some have players that don't bitstream but can decode, yet have no analog 5.1 (or 7.1) outs.

That said, the inclusion of multiple choices does actually help at least some of their consumers, who wouldn't otherwise be able to play back lossless audio if they'd only been given one choice.

It could be a good thing, but then people might come to expect that from all of their releases and that would just be silly. IF the movie is on a 50GB disc, how much space will that Uncompressed and TrueHD track take up? If they couldn't fit a TrueHD on a 30GB HD DVD...can they fit it and an Uncompressed on a 50GB and not have the PQ suffer? Remember, the BD version was suppose to be 'optimized' for Blu-ray before it was canceled. I doubt Paramount had planned on both TrueHD and Uncompressed a year ago.

I'll wait for official specs. Does not matter to me as I'll be sticking with the HD DVD anyway.

Skoobooz 05-28-08 06:50 PM

DVD Empire has listings up for all 4 Jack Ryan films on BD for 7/29...looks like it may not just be Patriot Games and Sum of All Fears after all.

Mr. Cinema 05-28-08 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Skoobooz
DVD Empire has listings up for all 4 Jack Ryan films on BD for 7/29...looks like it may not just be Patriot Games and Sum of All Fears after all.

See post #300. :)

Skoobooz 05-28-08 09:07 PM

True, but a lot of sources have also been saying that it would only be Patriot Games and Sum of All Fears.

matome 05-29-08 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Skoobooz
DVD Empire has listings up for all 4 Jack Ryan films on BD for 7/29...looks like it may not just be Patriot Games and Sum of All Fears after all.

I'm glad they're releasing them individually :up: The first three will be mine.

matome 05-29-08 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Sweet. Hope we get White Castle on the same day.

Looks like White Castle is coming the same day as well:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67862


New Line Home Entertainment have announced the US Region A Blu-ray Disc release of Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay on 29th July 2008 priced at $35.99 SRP. John Cho and Kal Penn return as Harold and Kumar, two stoners who can’t seem to get a break. In this new adventure the boys get themselves in trouble trying to sneak a bong onboard a flight to Amsterdam. Now, being suspected of terrorism, they are forced to run from the law and try to find a way to prove their innocence. What follows is an irreverent and epic journey of deep thoughts, deeper inhaling and a wild trip around the world that is as “un-PC” as it gets.

Arriving day-and-date, this two-disc set includes the Unrated Cut of the main feature and the following extras:

* Bonus Digital Copy
* Dude, Change the Movie! – Interactive Feature allowing you to select from new and alternate scenes to change the course of the film
* Commentary with the director and stars
* Commentary with the director, the real “Harold Lee” and the guy who plays George W. Bush
* ”The World of Harold and Kumar” Featurette
* 27 Additional Scenes
* Bush PSA

More details are TBC.

Also released the same day on Blu-ray Disc is the original movie, Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle. Priced at $28.99 SRP, features are TBC.

rexinnih 05-29-08 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by matome
Looks like White Castle is coming the same day as well:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67862

Sweet!

Gizmo 05-29-08 09:16 PM

So getting both Harold and Kumar's!


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