Genius/Weinstein Will Begin BD Distribution in 2nd Half of '08
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Genius/Weinstein Will Begin BD Distribution in 2nd Half of '08
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/new...ticle_ID=12327
I look forward to 1408, Grindhouse, and The Mist, assuming these are all chosen for this year.
I look forward to 1408, Grindhouse, and The Mist, assuming these are all chosen for this year.
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Originally Posted by Zen Peckinpah
Bring on Grindhouse and The Mist!
(And Kill Bill: TWBA, goddammit)
(And Kill Bill: TWBA, goddammit)
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Could be great news if they release the movies day and date with the DVD instead of 2-3 months like with HD DVD. I'd love to get Halloween and 1408.
Whats the current state of Weinstein? All of their films have been bombs with the exception of Halloween Im shocked their still around.
Whats the current state of Weinstein? All of their films have been bombs with the exception of Halloween Im shocked their still around.
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Bring me Grindhouse and Harsh Times!
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Now that I'm off my iPhone...
This is great news. For those new to Blu-ray or this forum, Weinstein was HD DVD exclusive for several months in late 2006 up until 2007. No real reason was given, and they never stated why. However, all the titles they released were 2-3 months (some even longer like Wolf Creek) after the DVD version hit. Low sales apparently was the reason they pulled out. Rumors in July 2007 at Comicon hinted at Grindhouse being released on Blu-ray (and HD DVD), and IIRC confirmed by some insiders. For whatever reason it never happened (maybe Paramount going HD DVD exclusive a month later stalled/canceled those plans, who knows) and have been absent ever since.
1. This is GREAT NEWS. I have my wallet open to buy several films (Halloween, 1408, The Mist, and both Grindhouse films right away).
2. They need to release all future movies day and date with the DVD. No 2-3 months wait BS they did on HD DVD. As anyone who has ever sold DVD/Videogames knows, the first 4 weeks is when the title sells the most. After that it gets lost in the sea of new releases. After that the DVD goes on various sales (2 for $20, 3 for $25 etc) and its a much harder to sell a $25 catalog title vs. a $8 DVD version.
3. With all major studios now (or will be) backing Blu-ray, hopefully low sales won't discourage them from releasing films. We may get into weeks very soon with 7-10 new releases plus 7+ catalog titles (now that Universal and Paramount have 200 or so films to play catchup with along with Warners 20 or so).
4. I really don't know of any future Weinstein movies....this may not be a good thing. They may be relying on sales of now catalog titles to judge if Blu-ray is even worth it. The 5 titles I mentioned above are really the only noteworthy titles they have released into theaters, besides maybe Clerks II (currently on HD DVD).
Now with Weinstein back.....where the hell is Starz (Anchor Bay)? They came out strong with 4 cult films (Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Halloween and Evil Dead II) as well as 4 volumes of Masters of Horror and then dissapeared. Hopefully this will push them to start releasing again.
This is great news. For those new to Blu-ray or this forum, Weinstein was HD DVD exclusive for several months in late 2006 up until 2007. No real reason was given, and they never stated why. However, all the titles they released were 2-3 months (some even longer like Wolf Creek) after the DVD version hit. Low sales apparently was the reason they pulled out. Rumors in July 2007 at Comicon hinted at Grindhouse being released on Blu-ray (and HD DVD), and IIRC confirmed by some insiders. For whatever reason it never happened (maybe Paramount going HD DVD exclusive a month later stalled/canceled those plans, who knows) and have been absent ever since.
1. This is GREAT NEWS. I have my wallet open to buy several films (Halloween, 1408, The Mist, and both Grindhouse films right away).
2. They need to release all future movies day and date with the DVD. No 2-3 months wait BS they did on HD DVD. As anyone who has ever sold DVD/Videogames knows, the first 4 weeks is when the title sells the most. After that it gets lost in the sea of new releases. After that the DVD goes on various sales (2 for $20, 3 for $25 etc) and its a much harder to sell a $25 catalog title vs. a $8 DVD version.
3. With all major studios now (or will be) backing Blu-ray, hopefully low sales won't discourage them from releasing films. We may get into weeks very soon with 7-10 new releases plus 7+ catalog titles (now that Universal and Paramount have 200 or so films to play catchup with along with Warners 20 or so).
4. I really don't know of any future Weinstein movies....this may not be a good thing. They may be relying on sales of now catalog titles to judge if Blu-ray is even worth it. The 5 titles I mentioned above are really the only noteworthy titles they have released into theaters, besides maybe Clerks II (currently on HD DVD).
Now with Weinstein back.....where the hell is Starz (Anchor Bay)? They came out strong with 4 cult films (Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Halloween and Evil Dead II) as well as 4 volumes of Masters of Horror and then dissapeared. Hopefully this will push them to start releasing again.
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Bring on GRINDHOUSE, and for God's sake, quit sitting around with thumbs up collective asses, and release KILL BILL: THE WHOLE BLOODY AFFAIR. C'mon, my wallet is just waiting to fall open and spill out money for these. Hell, I'd even pay full MSRP just to get them.
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I supposed that WWE Wrestlemania 24 is going to be the first title that Genius Entertainment releases on Blu-Ray. It is released on May 20th.
http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Wrestleman...5929031&sr=8-1
I'm not to fond of the MSRP price point.
http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Wrestleman...5929031&sr=8-1
I'm not to fond of the MSRP price point.
#13
DVD Talk Legend
Originally Posted by dx23
I supposed that WWE Wrestlemania 24 is going to be the first title that Genius Entertainment releases on Blu-Ray. It is released on May 20th.
http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Wrestleman...5929031&sr=8-1
I'm not to fond of the MSRP price point.
http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Wrestleman...5929031&sr=8-1
I'm not to fond of the MSRP price point.
#17
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The wording of that article is very tricky. Although it mentions Weinstein numerous times in regard to Genius' revenue, the specific language concerning the Blu-ray announcement states: "Drinkwater said Genius would begin distributing Blu-ray titles in the second half of 2008." This may or may not include Weinstein titles.
Genius had already pledged to release titles on Blu-ray previously, even though Weinstein was HD DVD exclusive at the time. The two are technically separate home video divisions.
Genius had already pledged to release titles on Blu-ray previously, even though Weinstein was HD DVD exclusive at the time. The two are technically separate home video divisions.
#18
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
The wording of that article is very tricky. Although it mentions Weinstein numerous times in regard to Genius' revenue, the specific language concerning the Blu-ray announcement states: "Drinkwater said Genius would begin distributing Blu-ray titles in the second half of 2008." This may or may not include Weinstein titles.
Genius had already pledged to release titles on Blu-ray previously, even though Weinstein was HD DVD exclusive at the time. The two are technically separate home video divisions.
Genius had already pledged to release titles on Blu-ray previously, even though Weinstein was HD DVD exclusive at the time. The two are technically separate home video divisions.
rainning on our parade
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I really hope, like everyone else in here, that this means Weinstein blu-rays... I honestly don't see why it wouldn't - genius doesn't release much else at the moment... I'm certainly in for The Mist, Grindhouse, Kill Bill and 1408!
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Originally Posted by mdc3000
I really hope, like everyone else in here, that this means Weinstein blu-rays... I honestly don't see why it wouldn't - genius doesn't release much else at the moment... I'm certainly in for The Mist, Grindhouse, Kill Bill and 1408!
"Genius" certainly is not living up to it's name
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Now with Weinstein back.....where the hell is Starz (Anchor Bay)? They came out strong with 4 cult films (Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Halloween and Evil Dead II) as well as 4 volumes of Masters of Horror and then dissapeared. Hopefully this will push them to start releasing again.
I have sort of a theory on that... Smaller companies like Anchor Bay/Starz, Blue Underground, Synapse, etc. obviously have to be much more cautious regarding making moves that are financially viable. I suspect (though hopefully I'll be proven wrong) that we won't be seeing much blu-ray output from such labels until when (and if) the format becomes substantially more commonplace down the line. After all, I doubt it's all the high-priced attornies, real estate moguls, dentists and gynecologists who've been snatching up the sd dvd copies of Suspiria, Halloween, and The Prowler like hotcakes. It's (mostly) a younger teenage/college/20-something/middle-aged slacker demographic with less willingness and disposable income to go towards the adoption of a new format, rather than Dr. Moore who has just purchased the 70" incarnation (rather than the 52") of the latest Sony xbr lcd and walked out of best buy with a grocery cart containing a copy of every blu ray in the store in a bid to outdo the neighbors. Just not as many early adopters in these labels' primary demographic. I suspect Starz's small batch of blu-rays was mainly an HD test run of sorts featuring their most consistently popular titles. Judging by the current output, they may have deemed the sales as too low to be lucrative at this time. Tons of people want to see Casino Royale and Crank in HD. People want to see the Argento collection too, just not quite as many.
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Originally Posted by Alkaline
I have sort of a theory on that... Smaller companies like Anchor Bay/Starz, Blue Underground, Synapse, etc. obviously have to be much more cautious regarding making moves that are financially viable. I suspect (though hopefully I'll be proven wrong) that we won't be seeing much blu-ray output from such labels until when (and if) the format becomes substantially more commonplace down the line. After all, I doubt it's all the high-priced attornies, real estate moguls, dentists and gynecologists who've been snatching up the sd dvd copies of Suspiria, Halloween, and The Prowler like hotcakes. It's (mostly) a younger teenage/college/20-something/middle-aged slacker demographic with less willingness and disposable income to go towards the adoption of a new format, rather than Dr. Moore who has just purchased the 70" incarnation (rather than the 52") of the latest Sony xbr lcd and walked out of best buy with a grocery cart containing a copy of every blu ray in the store in a bid to outdo the neighbors. Just not as many early adopters in these labels' primary demographic. I suspect Starz's small batch of blu-rays was mainly an HD test run of sorts featuring their most consistently popular titles. Judging by the current output, they may have deemed the sales as too low to be lucrative at this time. Tons of people want to see Casino Royale and Crank in HD. People want to see the Argento collection too, just not quite as many.
Your theory is very sound, I just so hope your wrong!
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Originally Posted by Drexl
I'll buy Grindhouse, but not if the film is split across two releases.

Originally Posted by cultshock
for God's sake, quit sitting around with thumbs up collective asses, and release KILL BILL: THE WHOLE BLOODY AFFAIR.

However, one has to wonder as newcomers to the format how good their initial releases will be. Not saying it is impossible for them to be stunning, but hey these guys have be sitting on the HDM fence whilst everyone else has dabbled in one format or the other for months now.



