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The Cow 03-15-08 07:59 PM

Good flick. Another one I may pick up if it hits a good price point.

I went with the DVD over HD DVD initially (cheap DVD), and Netflixed the HD DVD. I didn't see a big improvement to justify the dip. I'll probably go the same route with this.

The Cow 03-15-08 08:02 PM

Oh yeah, the thing you HD DVD vs Blu-ray guys are missing (and this is REALLY getting old)....

The DVD was pretty damn good.

QuePaso 03-15-08 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by The Cow
Oh yeah, the thing you HD DVD vs Blu-ray guys are missing (and this is REALLY getting old)....

The DVD was pretty damn good.

Sorry, a lot of us don't settle for "Good Enough".

The Cow 03-15-08 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by QuePaso
Sorry, a lot of us don't settle for "Good Enough".

Not sure where you derived 'good enough'.

I do see now why everyone thinks you are a troll. Good work!

(it's not an HD DVD vs Blu-ray battle,that you seem to stay on, get over it)

Hammer99 03-15-08 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by jiggawhat
Since this was one the early releases, there wasn't much of a bar set. Now that we have Transformers, Bourne Supremacy, and others that when compared to those it looks inferior. I think it could definitely look a little better now since the tools to encode have improved exponentially.

Exactly. Even if you don't count the best BD-50 releases, BB doesn't as good as the best of the more recent HD DVDs. And squeezing a 140 minute movie with IME and a TrueHD soundtrack (+ a bunch of SD extras) to under 30g may have been acceptable in October 2006, but standards in 2008 are much, much higher.

Gizmo 03-15-08 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hammer99
Exactly. Even if you don't count the best BD-50 releases, BB doesn't as good as the best of the more recent HD DVDs. And squeezing a 140 minute movie with IME and a TrueHD soundtrack (+ a bunch of SD extras) to under 30g may have been acceptable in October 2006, but standards in 2008 are much, much higher.

Instead we want a BD50 with hog heavy PCM tracks in every language every made (including Latin!) and 1/5th of the extras present on the DVD version on the Blu-ray. Thats what we need.

Hopefully Warner does go through and re-encodes all of these releases...but I don't think it will make much of a difference at all. I look forward to seeing the comparison if they do by a neutral poster, not someone thats slanted on either side.

Gizmo 03-15-08 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by The Cow
Oh yeah, the thing you HD DVD vs Blu-ray guys are missing (and this is REALLY getting old)....

The DVD was pretty damn good.

Really? I thought the DVD was OK (even upconverted on my A1 at the time), but the HD DVD was way better in terms of PQ.

jiggawhat 03-15-08 09:01 PM

Kinda of OT, but for me, I prefer MP4 encoded titles. To my eyes, it seems to deliver more consistent PQ. I think that's why I wasn't impressed with 3-10 To Yuma. I'm hoping they go that route.

jiggawhat 03-15-08 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Instead we want a BD50 with hog heavy PCM tracks in every language every made (including Latin!) and 1/5th of the extras present on the DVD version on the Blu-ray. Thats what we need.

Hopefully Warner does go through and re-encodes all of these releases...but I don't think it will make much of a difference at all. I look forward to seeing the comparison if they do by a neutral poster, not someone thats slanted on either side.

It does look like the studios are moving away from PCM lately.

Engel07 03-15-08 09:36 PM

sold 100x of the Gift Set.

Gizmo 03-15-08 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by jiggawhat
It does look like the studios are moving away from PCM lately.

Yes, which is a good thing.

RockStrongo 03-16-08 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Hopefully Warner does go through and re-encodes all of these releases...but I don't think it will make much of a difference at all. I look forward to seeing the comparison if they do by a neutral poster, not someone thats slanted on either side.

I think BB on hd-dvd looks great (and sounds great too)...I hope WB directs their efforts to other titles not released than re-encoding all the hd-dvd exclusive titles for bluray.

I have a 71in pro calibrated DLP and I think BB is up there in pic quality. Yes, there are better releases, but its very, very good.

Grubert 03-17-08 09:01 AM

Remarkable news on the press release:

Both Blu-ray editions will include the first six minutes of The Dark Knight as a bonus.

Yavin 03-17-08 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Grubert
Remarkable news on the press release:

Both Blu-ray editions will include the first six minutes of The Dark Knight as a bonus.

The first six minutes of TDK will be a nice little bonus, that is until TDK is released on DVD/Blu-ray 4 months later, at which point it will just feel pointless and tacked on. I would rather Warner focus on putting out their best ever presentation of Batman Begins (audio/video-wise) and have them put some of those non-disc extras (script pages, storyboards) onto the disc itself. I am interested in those 5 key art postcards, though.

RichC2 03-17-08 09:29 AM

The HD DVD of this is far better than "good enough", it is fantastic, excellent audio/video.

Nice that it's finally being released on Blu, but I'll stick with the copy I already own. Kind of nice having both players at this point :)

Goldblum 03-17-08 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Yavin
The first six minutes of TDK will be a nice little bonus, that is until TDK is released on DVD/Blu-ray 4 months later, at which point it will just feel pointless and tacked on. I would rather Warner focus on putting out their best ever presentation of Batman Begins (audio/video-wise) and have them put some of those non-disc extras (script pages, storyboards) onto the disc itself. I am interested in those 5 key art postcards, though.

They're not thinking 4 months later. They're thinking what will help sell the most on release week. And rightfully so.

Yavin 03-17-08 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Goldblum
They're not thinking 4 months later. They're thinking what will help sell the most on release week. And rightfully so.

I fully realize this. I'm just saying that this is one of those extras that will be pretty pointless a few months down the line, unlike if they, say added some sort of animated short to bridge the gap between BB and TDK (but that's what Gotham Knight is for, sort of).

Gizmo 03-17-08 10:47 AM

Its a re-release a film with a few "bonus" minutes of the next film and a ticket packed in side. Every studio does this when the sequel(s) come out...not shocking at all. Its an extra incentive to those to pick up the movie, especially if they have never seen it before.

fumanstan 03-17-08 10:55 AM

Is the first 6 minutes the same as the Joker preview in IMAX? I thought when that came out there was something about it being 6 minutes from The Dark Knight.

GogoTheMimic 03-17-08 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by fumanstan
Is the first 6 minutes the same as the Joker preview in IMAX? I thought when that came out there was something about it being 6 minutes from The Dark Knight.

I'm pretty sure that was the first six minutes of the film; you can probably still find the clip on YouTube. I just can't bring myself to watch it.

Yavin 03-17-08 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by fumanstan
Is the first 6 minutes the same as the Joker preview in IMAX? I thought when that came out there was something about it being 6 minutes from The Dark Knight.

Yes, that would be the bank heist scene that played before showings of I am Legend in IMAX.

dx23 04-01-08 04:02 PM

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articl...giftsetbrd.jpg

DthRdrX 04-01-08 04:14 PM

It will be cool if they make a limited Set like that for all of Nolan's Batman films.

tonymontana313 04-01-08 04:42 PM

Damn that is sexy!

Gizmo 04-01-08 05:18 PM

Crap. They got me. I'll be buying. Dammit.

Big Worms 04-01-08 08:05 PM

Damn nice! Sold.

RocShemp 04-01-08 10:09 PM

That almost has me sold. I'm still trying to hold out to see if they actually remastered the film. If it got something like a shinny new 4K master than I will definitely buy it even though I already have the HD DVD.

bluetoast 04-01-08 10:55 PM

I'm very interested in that limited edition, but I just hope it isn't as wide as a dictionary as the picture indicates.

Big Worms 04-01-08 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by bluetoast
but I just hope it isn't as wide as a dictionary as the picture indicates.

Funny that I am hoping that it is.

But either way, judging by it saying giftset on it, you can pretty much bet it is going to be thick.

rexinnih 04-02-08 07:55 AM

Drool..........

LivingINClip 04-02-08 08:02 AM

I'm sold.

kefrank 04-02-08 11:57 AM

i'm more tempted after seeing that packaging, but if the disc doesn't have any new extras besides the dark knight preview and ports the HD DVD transfer, i still probably won't buy it. i reserve the right to change my mind when i see the packaging in person though. :)

Giles 04-02-08 12:49 PM

so I assume the movie cash is applicable for the IMAX edition (?)

Yavin 04-02-08 02:18 PM

That gift set looks pretty tempting since I don't have the film on HD DVD. And +1 for not including an XL T-Shirt inside!

Sonny Corinthos 04-03-08 12:58 AM

I already own the HD DVD version so I will pass on this one.

LivingINClip 04-03-08 01:49 AM

I have the regular DVD (limited) and HD DVD, but I'll still buy. With that said, I never cared for the HD DVD transfer. Maybe it was my old TV, maybe it was the 360 add-on, but the PQ always just seems overly soft. I'll have to give it another spin now that I picked up a stand alone HD player and my new TV came in.

@TOMMY@ 04-04-08 02:18 AM

Definitely getting this one even hough I have the limited edition SD DVD already.

Admiral7 04-07-08 04:11 PM

It MUST have been in your TV then, because there is nothing soft about the image quality on Batman Begins.

Admiral7 04-07-08 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Sonny Corinthos
I already own the HD DVD version so I will pass on this one.

I have the HD-DVD version too, and I WILL be getting the BD, because I'm dumping all my HD-DVDs as I'm able to switch them to BD. The HD-DVD looks great to be sure, but if they do a new encode for BD, so much the better.

Gizmo 04-07-08 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Admiral7
I have the HD-DVD version too, and I WILL be getting the BD, because I'm dumping all my HD-DVDs as I'm able to switch them to BD. The HD-DVD looks great to be sure, but if they do a new encode for BD, so much the better.

If there was a new encode we would have heard about it. The Polar Express and T3 was released and it was the same encode (albeit they messed up the PiP though). The first of the post HD DVD releases is V and Constatine (apparently), so we can all see if anything has changed.


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