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Councelor 02-19-08 12:17 PM

Toshiba HD-DVD for sale CHEAP!!!
 
Boo Hoo... Glad I didn't buy into that DDD HD sale going on. They gonna have to drop price quite a bit more before I consider buying any more HD DVD's

:banana: :banana: FIRE SALE, FIRE SALE RAH! RAH! RAH :banana: :banana:

Oh, well, while betting on HD, I was annoyed that my Toshiba couldn't play audio CDs.

Councelor


Oh latest funeral notice:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080219/.../japan_toshiba

RockStrongo 02-19-08 12:20 PM

Well, Im sad to see HD-DVD die, but it served a good purpose and helped drive prices down some. Now, for BD to take off, it needs to be gone.

I wish it had happened sooner or closer to summer because I really, really want There Will Be Blood on hidef. If they still release the hd-dvd, ill buy it.

Damn it!

Also, Bill Hunt is a D-Bag.

Roufuss 02-19-08 12:21 PM

Now Paramount just needs to formally announce it, and then both Universal and Paramount need to announce what titles they are rolling out and when, simply so I can take some movies (like the Bourne ones) to Moviestop to throw down on some preorders :D

matome 02-19-08 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by ianholm
Wow, I'm actually looking forward to The Thing and Breakfast Club on Blu. To each their own, I guess.

Let's get some title announcements!

That was a joke related to one of my posts in the now merged thread. Those three titles were actually my will-buy-a-player-just-for titles that were on HD-DVD. After the Toshiba announcement I ordered an A3 and those three discs (I wouldn't do it while the war was on), so I was just harping that Universal will now announce those titles on Blu to spite me. Those will probably be my only three titles owned, as I will wait for all others to show up on Blu.

Hmm, Amazon just dropped the price of the A3 $10 since I ordered it this morning and have added this note to all the HD-DVD players:

Product Alert: On February 19, 2008, Toshiba officially announced that after a "thorough review of its overall strategy" they have decided to no longer develop, manufacture, and market HD DVD players and recorders. The company has reduced shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels and expects to be out of the HD DVD business by the end of March 2008. Future availability of HD DVD discs is unknown. HD DVD players will continue to play HD DVD discs and upconvert standard DVD discs to 1080p high-definition resolution. Check our High-Def 101 page for the latest information on the high-definition-player landscape.

Dan 02-19-08 12:23 PM

If Universal doesn't announce Lost Highway on Blu-ray soon, I'm going to be very very sad.

teke184 02-19-08 12:25 PM

Semi-rhetorical question:

What's the turnaround time between a studio submitting a mastered title to the manufacturer and having that title ready to ship to stores?


I ask this because I'm curious about how long it will take Paramount and Dreamworks to re-issue their previous Blu-Ray releases once they make a decision.

Peep 02-19-08 12:27 PM

Why is Paramount in this title if they have not announced yet??

amplified 02-19-08 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
Come on Paramount. Get yr blu-rays sorted out before There Will Be Blood is due.


Agreed :)

I can't wait to see TWBB on Blu-Ray.

devilshalo 02-19-08 12:28 PM

I guess I can feel safe now buying a PS3.

PixyJunket 02-19-08 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by SomethingMore
If Universal doesn't announce Lost Highway on Blu-ray soon, I'm going to be very very sad.

It took them like twenty years just to release it on standard DVD.

RockStrongo 02-19-08 12:31 PM

Luckily, I swapped all my WB hd-dvds for BDs when WB switched to BD.

For my WB hd-exclusives, universal and paramount hd-dvds, it will be a more gradual process. I wont be switching them right away unless its one of my favorite titles.

I have some hd-dvds that arent on bluray and probably wont be for a while (Brotherhood of the Wolf, Equilibrium, Running Scared) and alot of homemade hd-dvds, so Im not getting rid of my A3 player. So, im not opposed to keeping them a little while longer. Plus, resale is gonna be harder since hd-dvd is dead now.

RockStrongo 02-19-08 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by teke184
I ask this because I'm curious about how long it will take Paramount and Dreamworks to re-issue their previous Blu-Ray releases once they make a decision.

I bet it will be over a year or 2 process.

PixyJunket 02-19-08 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Peep
Why is Paramount in this title if they have not announced yet??

Sensationalism.

kefrank 02-19-08 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I bet it will be over a year or 2 process.

i can't tell if you're joking or not, but there's no way it should take that long. he asked about the titles that they had previously released on blu-ray, so the encodes are already done. all they have to do is get them replicated and distributed again.

Adam Tyner 02-19-08 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by kefrank
i can't tell if you're joking or not, but there's no way it should take that long.

There are somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 titles that Paramount and Universal released exclusively on HD DVD; do you really think they're going to flood the market -- aside from with the newer releases they're invariably going to be putting out -- with all of that in one or two fell swoops?

No. It's going to be a long process before we see all of their HD DVD releases on Blu-ray, assuming it ever happens. Hell, too many of Universal's HD DVD releases seemed like shovelware to fill a quota as it was.

Giles 02-19-08 12:41 PM

guess we know what Criterion is going to do now.

RockStrongo 02-19-08 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by kefrank
i can't tell if you're joking or not, but there's no way it should take that long. he asked about the titles that they had previously released on blu-ray, so the encodes are already done. all they have to do is get them replicated and distributed again.

Im not joking.

I bet they will do them slowly over the next year or 2. I dont think they can do this overnight. We will start to see some trickle out soon though.

Plus, they may be using some to re-encode/add features or help market a sequel or something.

DthRdrX 02-19-08 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
There are somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 titles that Paramount and Universal released exclusively on HD DVD; do you really think they're going to flood the market -- aside from with the newer releases they're invariably going to be putting out -- with all of that in one or two fell swoops?

No. It's going to be a long process before we see all of their HD DVD releases on Blu-ray, assuming it ever happens. Hell, too many of Universal's HD DVD releases seemed like shovelware to fill a quota as it was.

That was mine concern as well. I'm sure they'll keep putting out new releases but catalog stuff is going to be a huge question mark.

Universal could make out the best on this deal by sitting back and releasing the same exact catalog titles over the next two years, saving the big titles for a larger market.

Roufuss 02-19-08 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
There are somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 titles that Paramount and Universal released exclusively on HD DVD; do you really think they're going to flood the market -- aside from with the newer releases they're invariably going to be putting out -- with all of that in one or two fell swoops?

No. It's going to be a long process before we see all of their HD DVD releases on Blu-ray, assuming it ever happens. Hell, too many of Universal's HD DVD releases seemed like shovelware to fill a quota as it was.

I do think Universal / Paramount are going to try to get their heavy hitters on Blu-Ray as soon as possible... hell we know Transformers is already coming to Blu eventually. I fully expect to see the Bourne movies, American Gangster, and hopefully a redone King Kong with the extended cut before the end of the year.

I think it will be awhile before the older, lesser known catalog titles start dropping, but we will definitely see the biggest movies on HD-DVD hit Blu Ray pretty damn fast.

Darth Maher 02-19-08 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Problem is, with HD DVD now gone, I don't forsee the BDA pushing those 2.0 players out as fast as they would if HD DVD was still around.

I hope they release them soon.... and that they aren't an arm and a leg. If the format war had ended sooner, I would have just bought a BD player. But with 2.0 due in the Fall, I'm holding off.

namja 02-19-08 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Peep
Why is Paramount in this title if they have not announced yet??

So that if/when it does become official, then that can be covered in this thread. It's inevitable, no?

MBoyd 02-19-08 12:53 PM

I guess our chances are slim to none for getting the Universal Hitchcocks on Blu. . . sigh

Giles 02-19-08 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Roufuss
I do think Universal / Paramount are going to try to get their heavy hitters on Blu-Ray as soon as possible... hell we know Transformers is already coming to Blu eventually. I fully expect to see the Bourne movies, American Gangster, and hopefully a redone King Kong with the extended cut before the end of the year.

I think it will be awhile before the older, lesser known catalog titles start dropping, but we will definitely see the biggest movies on HD-DVD hit Blu Ray pretty damn fast.

with either Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM

Dan 02-19-08 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
guess we know what Criterion is going to do now.

Let's hope they start releasing SOON. I want spine #1 ;)

kefrank 02-19-08 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
There are somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 titles that Paramount and Universal released exclusively on HD DVD; do you really think they're going to flood the market -- aside from with the newer releases they're invariably going to be putting out -- with all of that in one or two fell swoops?

No. It's going to be a long process before we see all of their HD DVD releases on Blu-ray, assuming it ever happens. Hell, too many of Universal's HD DVD releases seemed like shovelware to fill a quota as it was.

the original question was about Paramount titles that had previously been released on Blu-ray, not Paramount and Universal titles that were released exclusively on HD DVD. i agree 100% with every you just said regarding the HD DVD-exclusive titles, but that's a separate thing entirely.

NiCK Crush 02-19-08 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by SomethingMore
Let's hope they start releasing SOON. I want spine #1 ;)

never thought about this... we can all start from scratch!

-NiCK

Adam Tyner 02-19-08 01:05 PM

Sorry, that's what I get for paying more attention to responses than the original posts.

kefrank 02-19-08 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Sorry, that's what I get for paying more attention to responses than the original posts.

no problem. considering how much action this thread is getting, it is tough to follow every line of conversation. i guess i'm not helping with this mostly unnecessary post. :)

RockStrongo 02-19-08 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by kefrank
no problem. considering how much action this thread is getting, it is tough to follow every line of conversation. i guess i'm not helping with this mostly unnecessary post. :)

Yeah, I thought you were talking about Paramount/Dreamworks titles on hd-dvd only. Sorry for the confusion. I need to read more good. ;)

RockStrongo 02-19-08 01:27 PM

The manroom is reporting that Paramount WILL still be releasing There Will Be Blood on 4/8....

There Will Be Blood will be presented on HD DVD in a two-disc set with widescreen 1080p video and Dolby TrueHD 5.1 lossless audio.

Additional Scenes (15 minutes)
The Story of Petroleum featurette
There Will Be Blood - Pics, Research, Etc featurette
Teaser and theatrical trailers
There Will Be Blood on HD DVD will carry an SRP of $39.99. Check back regularly for high resolution cover art.

http://www.themanroom.com/news/There...to_HD_DVD/2170

YES!!!!!

Qui Gon Jim 02-19-08 01:30 PM

Perhaps Universal was able to announce first since their contractual exclusivity to HD DVD was already up, while maybe there is some type of legal entanglement holding Paramount up.

I am just glad to see that Universal isn't going to be some type of hold-out.

Oliver Clothesoff 02-19-08 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
The manroom is reporting that Paramount WILL still be releasing There Will Be Blood on 4/8....

There Will Be Blood will be presented on HD DVD in a two-disc set with widescreen 1080p video and Dolby TrueHD 5.1 lossless audio.

Additional Scenes (15 minutes)
The Story of Petroleum featurette
There Will Be Blood - Pics, Research, Etc featurette
Teaser and theatrical trailers
There Will Be Blood on HD DVD will carry an SRP of $39.99. Check back regularly for high resolution cover art.

http://www.themanroom.com/news/There...to_HD_DVD/2170

YES!!!!!

great news. probably my last HD DVD purchase.

sbelli 02-19-08 01:35 PM

Sorry, edited post: Just missed the post regarding "There Will Be Blood". Let's hope "Sweeney Todd", "I Am Legend" and others continue on their path to HD DVD before they shut down releases completely.

Dan 02-19-08 01:35 PM

April 8th seems like an eternity from now... but I'll be in line if it's on the shelves.

Damed 02-19-08 01:36 PM

That makes me very excited for the prospects of Sweeney Todd.

RichC2 02-19-08 01:36 PM

Hell yes :up: can't wait to see There Will Be Blood again.

RockStrongo 02-19-08 01:41 PM

Already preordered There Will Be Blood from amazon. As others have said, this will probably be my last hd-dvd.

Now, I just hope they get the coverart right!

Sadly, this will probably be a GREAT release for a dead format!

Michael Corvin 02-19-08 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by GreenMonkey
At least BD is going to have a decent studio releasing besides Disney.

That's the truth. What I own on Blu: The Pixar films, Pirates trilogy, Lost & The Rock, which all fall under the Disney umbrella, then I own Die Hard 4 and Spidey 3. Disney/Pixar was 90% of the reason why I got a PS3. They haven't let me down yet.

All the other companies with their overpriced bare bones-double dipping-dropping SD features- methods can suck it. :bmonkey: Hopefully this one format future will get pricing and releases on par with their SD brethren. If not BD is destined to be the next LaserDisc.

Drexl 02-19-08 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That's the truth. What I own on Blu: The Pixar films, Pirates trilogy, Lost & The Rock, which all fall under the Disney umbrella, then I own Die Hard 4 and Spidey 3. Disney/Pixar was 90% of the reason why I got a PS3. They haven't let me down yet.

All the other companies with their overpriced bare bones-double dipping-dropping SD features- methods can suck it. :bmonkey: Hopefully this one format future will get pricing and releases on par with their SD brethren. If not BD is destined to be the next LaserDisc.

Well, to be honest, the situation with extras has gotten much better over the past several months. Sony and Disney have been including them, and the Fox new releases have been good AFAIK.

The problem is that Fox is still releasing titles that were (in all likelihood) completed a long time ago, like Predator, so until those run out we'll still be getting some barebones and lesser-featured titles from them.

Peep 02-19-08 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by namja
So that if/when it does become official, then that can be covered in this thread. It's inevitable, no?

I agree that it should be covered in this topic, but why not say "(Paramount likely)" or something like that, so people know that Paramount has announced yet. The way it is now is confusing.


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