i don't get the temptation crap... we're human, there's always temptation, it's all about self control, damn it, it's not hard to understand.

So, by analogy, are you going to cut the kids' penis because sex is a temptation? It's so stupid... Okay, the thread is more like Otto now, but sorry, i have to get it out of my chest...

For the record, I do not completely agree that shielding a child from everything is the way to go, but I do think we have to respect the parental decision to do so.

I definitely see harm in excess exposure to video games, even though I own tons of them. I interact with children every day that rarely go outdoors. They come home plop in front of the TV or video game and stay there till dinner, and then to bed. That is bad.

ResIspa is going one further. He is smart enough to know that his children will know what a PS3 is and even though he may not allow them to play it, they still may do so. By not even having the thing in the house in the first place, he removes that temptation.

I do hate to get into the parenting debates... but having a video game system in the house is not going to make the kid go "bad."

In my house, i have X360, Wii and PS3. When i tell the kids (they got DS too) no TV, no games, they listen... When my son asks me can he bring his DS to school, i told him no (with why) and he listened. When they see something violent on TV or game, i talked to them by relating to the bed time stories (like red riding hood, it's quite violent if you ask me). It all come down to the parent, i.e. you, the adult.

I totally disagree with not buying a PS3 for a BD player b/c it has the temptation for kids to play video game. If you have that worry, then your parenting skills are weak or simply put, you don't love the kids enough.

And you think the kid is smart for figuring out that the PS3 can play games too (w/o inform him/her), then what makes you think hs/she won't say things like this "you brought this BD player for $400 dollars? You know you can the the PS3 with 40gb hdd, you got ripped off."

Kids are a lot smarter than you think, just let them be and let them unleash their potential under your guidance.

How about something as simple as not buying games? A computer can play objectionable games, do you not buy one of those? BTW, many DVD's include games including some that include shooting other things/people.

Nobody was telling anybody how to parent, just qustioning the logic behind not having something in the house when it's just as easy to control, if not easier, than other things that are likely already in the same house.

Not buying games will not solve the problem, actually, encourage the "bad" behavior... Kids can obtain games from friends, very easy... Putting up parental locks is good, but locking everything is bad (encouraging them to find ways around it).

And i totally agree with the fact that most of us got electronic devices can already play games, so i don't see why they're not blamed... Hell, if you have internet connection, you don't need a cd/dvd to play games and those stick men bloody blown up is worse than a lot of games on the PS3 (or other consoles).

But when would they be unsupervised enough to be able to play them with nobody noticing? If that happens enough to be worried about it, then I would start having issues with parenting, but only because their young children are unsupervised for extended lengths of time.

$250 by summer? rotfl Do you really think Sony will drop a $600 system to $250 in a matter 18 months? Even $300 is a stretch. I think prices will remain the same at $400 and $500, the pack-ins and drives will just change. They aren't having problems selling the system at this point they just need killer apps.

I think one of Sony's biggest problems is marketing. They have a machine that does different things for different people. They should capitalize on it. Continue with the two skus but brand them like the 360(Arcade, Elite) to gear them towards a certain buyer.

Movie Pack:

• 40GB PS3
• ***Hi-def Cables***
• Sixaxis Controller
• Spiderman 3 (other?) BD pack-in
• BD remote
• Free movie d/l from PSN store (if they ever get it up and running)

Games Pack:

• 120GB PS3
• ***Hi-def Cables***
• Dual Shock 3 Controller
• Resistance pack-in (although a MA title is unlikely, toss in R&C)
• Free arcade title
• a fucking Home beta already

I don't buy sweet cereal and soda pop. If I buy it, the kids will eat/drink it more than I would prefer. I can understand not wanting to put something out there if you don't have to.

Finally, someone who actually parents his children!

I grew up being allowed to play virtually any game I wanted to play. My parents talked it over and made the decision that it was okay for me to play M-rated games.

I turned out just fine.

Willing to bet that was out of pocket cost, not MSRP. I sure hope nobody is paying $600 for any PS3 that doesn't come with a lot of extras.

And I agree we could see a $300 (out of pocket) PS3's by the Christmas buying season of 2008. Not $250, but low $300's.

I agree.

But buying a PS3 doesn't mean there will automically be games to play. No comparison.

But if people want to go down that road, having sugar in the house means smart kids with no supervision could add sugar to cereal and anything else they eat or drink. So using that logic, nobody would ever have sugar in the house if they wanted to keep their kids away from sugary foods.

I think cardaway wants to be the next Dr. Phil. I heard Brittney is back in the hospital, its time for you to POUNCE!

Well, it seems like the PS3 isn't selling as high as Sony projected:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/bu...ss&oref=slogin

The article does say the video game unit has swung back in the profitability, mostly due to the decreasing costs of producing PS3. So yeah I could conceivably see a $299 PS3 in the not so distant future

chanster, another post like this and there WILL be consequences. We have said over and over to not respond in a personal way. While this may not technically be a personal attack, posts like this are not welcome here, and there will be mod actions with continued posts like this.

Anyway, this thread has outlived its usefulness. We're now fighting over parenting skills in the HD Talk Forum? *sigh* As for the PS3 price drop itself, I think dan30oly said it best (post #3): "The video game manufacturers rarely announce a price drop more than a day before it happens so the competition has little time to react or beat them to it." So, while it's nice to speculate--and we welcome speculation threads with open arms--the way this thread went off on a tangent requires its closure.

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