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Yes, even though WB has gone Blu, I want HD DVD to keep fighting.
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Old 01-08-08 | 11:59 AM
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Old 01-08-08 | 12:01 PM
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Old 01-08-08 | 12:16 PM
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There is no format war anymore -- just an inevitable conclusion. I don't see the best things about the war, like the ridiculous sales, continuing, and that'll be missed.
Yup, yup.

One of the sad things is that there has been so much in-fighting within the HD, that it's now too difficult to fight the battle with SD. Most of the damage has already been done.
Old 01-08-08 | 12:19 PM
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No. War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one
Old 01-08-08 | 12:24 PM
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No. Early adopters will take a hit in the short term now that there'll be fewer BOGO sales(not to mention we've already lost the Amazon 10% discount), but in the long run we'll reap the rewards when the studios finally start to unleash their catalog titles.
Old 01-08-08 | 01:11 PM
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Yes! Competition is good for the consumer!
Old 01-08-08 | 01:13 PM
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Hell no. Bring on the BD's with the BD encodes!
Old 01-08-08 | 01:53 PM
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More choice = better for the consumer (me).

There is simply no reasonable way to spin the format war any other way. Anybody who thinks that the low rate of HDM adoption is due to multiple formats is seriously deluding themselves, there are just too many other factors including the ubiquity and cheapness of an "adequate" current format.
Old 01-08-08 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
More choice = better for the consumer (me).

There is simply no reasonable way to spin the format war any other way. Anybody who thinks that the low rate of HDM adoption is due to multiple formats is seriously deluding themselves, there are just too many other factors including the ubiquity and cheapness of an "adequate" current format.

Agreed, I kept an eye on the Samsung BD-P1400, for the last weeks the price stayed at around $285
and since the switch of Warner the price has risen to somewhat around $350.
We are already seeing the effects of no/less competition. Prices of the Sony S300 have gone up also.
Anybody who thinks less competition reduces prices should think again...
Old 01-08-08 | 02:07 PM
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I never wanted a format war. Consumers don't really win in the long run with a format war. What I wanted was a content war. Given a single format, let the studios and hardware makers duke it out... THAT results in lower prices, higher quality, and protection for the consumer.
Old 01-08-08 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jericho
I want it to continue. The competition has been good to consumers. I like that. I am a consumer and I benefit. Does it further slowing down the chance for HDM to gain traction on dvd? Yes. But I don't really care about that. I don't care when someone else decides to buy a Blu-Ray player. I only care what will benefit me. I already have a player. The studios are releasing movies. Prices are low. I am happy. I still believe HDM will takeover eventually. One format probably speeds up the process, but it doesn't change the outcome. And the benefits I saw with competition will begin to dry up (IMO).

So no format war may help others buy into HDM, but I don't see it helping me.

Well said. I could not have summed up my feelings better. You think if Toshiba gives up we will keep seeing BOGO on BD- doubtful.
Old 01-08-08 | 06:31 PM
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No. I'm looking forward to having multiple BD players to play all my BD movies, regardless of studio (wishful thinking) . Seriously, I am looking forward to getting The Matrix trilogy and Batman Returns in HD, been waiting on those for quite a while.
Old 01-08-08 | 06:42 PM
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First off, I do believe the "format war" was a big part of the format not taking off. Countless people like myself were well aware of the situation and held off for more than a year simply because they didn't want to end up with hardware and media from the losing side. In fact, the only reason I have a horse in this race is because I got a PS3 for gaming. But even now having the player, I would not have purchased even on Blu-Ray movie hsd the recent anouncements not been made. The PS3 would have been used a game machine until the "war" was over.

I agree with many of the people saying competition is usually good, but in this case I totally disagree. With studios being exclusive people had to buy two seperate players. Something nobody would have to do if there was only one format.
Old 01-08-08 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Yavin
I agree with the consensus that, ultimately, although bad for HD-DVD owners like myself, the Warner defection will allow consumers to more fully embrance HDM and quicken the rate at which it moves from being a niche market to becoming mainstream.

Do I think that the better of the two formats won? No. Do I wish that the format war continued? For the above reason, no. For my own investment in HD-DVD, yes, but only because I'd prefer it if HD-DVD still had a chance at becoming the dominant format. Does it matter anyway? No. Convert now, repent later!
I'm in the same boat. I just bought a Sony S300 Blu Ray player and am really underwhelemed in comparison to my Toshiba HD-A20. Oh well....
Old 01-08-08 | 08:29 PM
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Yes. WAR is/was fun.
Old 01-08-08 | 08:58 PM
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Yes, fight on Toshiba. The Market will take care of itself! If BD wins the overal format war, not just the HD format, then so be it.
Old 01-08-08 | 09:09 PM
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Time for this war to end. I enjoyed it while it lasted and thought the competition was good for consumers, but DVD is competition as well and it is time for the BDA to focus on that.
Old 01-08-08 | 10:14 PM
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IT would be good if both formats dropped what they had going and focused on trying to take on SD - Together!
Old 01-08-08 | 10:36 PM
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I voted for Blue because I want it to be over so they can put more focus into it so they can release the movies and shows we want faster in Blue Ray
Like releasing Season 1 - 5 of Smallville in Blue Ray and 24 season and stuff like that
Old 01-08-08 | 10:38 PM
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Always wanted BD to win, so no I do not want a continuing battle.
Old 01-08-08 | 11:42 PM
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Old 01-08-08 | 11:56 PM
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One format, one market, one family of distribs to release for all cinematic tastes.

The future will be blu.

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Old 01-09-08 | 12:00 AM
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No. As much as I think HD-DVD is more consumer friendly, it's apparent the studios disagree and they've made their decision. No point in dragging it on.
Old 01-09-08 | 12:04 AM
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I'd like HD DVD to keep fighting simply because I feel it's the better format overall (even though BD is potentially better) but I really don't see what the HD DVD camp could possibly do to turn this around. Heck, I don't think they even saw this coming or else they wouldn't have cancelled their presentations at CES.

For the record, I don't blame Sony but the HD DVD camp as a whole for this situation. For the most part it seemed as if they were mainly sitting on their asses after they managed to release HD DVD before BD entered the market. Once BD did arrive, it seemed like forever before the HD DVD camp realized they even had competition. On the other hand, Sony and the BD backers where doing aggressive marketing right from the start. That's what has seemingly won them this war.

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Old 01-09-08 | 12:11 AM
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End it now before they do any more damage to the minds of consumers than they have already done. I'm willing to sacrifice the continuity of my HD-dvd collection to see HD survive.


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