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RoboDad 01-04-08 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Raul3
I know this is a big blow to the hd-dvd camp but, is anyone else with me wishing the war doesn't end here?

There are a lot of advantages having the two formats, specially when you have a player for the two formats. :)

No, I don't wish for that at all. I agree that the war helped bring the features to a higher level sooner that would otherwise have happened, but we re now at a point where there must be a clear winner, or else watch BOTH formats slowly fade. People are buying HDTVs by the millions now, but they won't adopt HD media until the war is over.

Hammer99 01-04-08 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
A good reason to come out of retirement and congratulate Warner Brothers for bringing this asinine war to closure. :up:

Pro-B

Welcome back ProB! :D2:

And great news, congrats to Blu! :up:

Damed 01-04-08 03:25 PM

The fat lady has sung it would seem.

Time to buy a PS3.

Rockmjd23 01-04-08 03:26 PM

Well now I know which one to get on my inevitable jump to HD.

naitram 01-04-08 03:27 PM

Eh +1 for Blu, but it ain't over yet. There's still the cheap stand-alone players advantage, and Paramount and Universal exclusives coming on the HD DVD side. Now if one of them goes Blu, I'll say it's over.

Glad I'm neutral, but I'll still own more red for awhile to come.

The Bus 01-04-08 03:28 PM

And now, to eagerly await the clearance sales. :)

RoboDad 01-04-08 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Universal, yes, but Paramount is contractually obligated. That's a real problem for them, although their catalog titles lately have sucked.

They are obligated, but only for 18 months, correct? They could easily prepare for that time, and have a significant number of BD titles available the day the contract expires.

Who knows, maybe they could even sue for breach of contract? I don't know what kind of promises were made to them, or whether Warner's announcement negates any of them.

DthRdrX 01-04-08 03:29 PM

I'm actually thankful I held out buying the Blade Runner set as I was debating which to buy. Now I'll just pick up WB titles on Blu-Ray from here on out.

I can't see how HD-dvd can survive without WB.

TheMovieman 01-04-08 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by stingermck
Going over my collection quickly, a little over half my HD-DVD's are Universal/ Paramount/ etc exclusives, so for now thats a good excuse to keep the A2.

After reading your post, I decided to check mine out, right now it's 27 out of 48 that are exclusive (right now), so not a complete loss. But now I'm sorry I bought my sister one, lol (she wasn't going to buy a lot of HD-DVDs anyway and at least it'll still upconvert regular DVDs but still).

lotsofdvds 01-04-08 03:29 PM

Interesting to note the reaction of red owners when faced with this kind of news compared to how the blue owners reacted when Paramount went exclusive...

ytrez 01-04-08 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
The war, led by corporate propagandists, divided our community like nothing I have witnessed in my time (and that is quite a bit). So, as far I as I am concerned it was asinine.

Ciao,
Pro-B

I almost responded "DVD vs. DIVX", but then remembered that there was no one on DIVX's side of the line but Circuit City!

namja 01-04-08 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
I don't know what kind of promises were made to them [Paramount], or whether Warner's announcement negates any of them.

That is an interesting point. We don't know exactly what the terms of the deal was (or do we?). It's possible that the contact allows them an 'out' if one of the major studios pulls out of the HD DVD camp.

GCS 01-04-08 03:31 PM

I am not surprised (nor happy).

The only bad part is that I have HD-DVD in all 3 rooms we use (no regular players in the house anywhere) but only 1 BR (its a PS3). Reason --- COST.

I personally don't/didn't care who one but the price for BR players is too much to have in each room. HD-DVD was so easy to get into it made it a no brainer.

I WILL NOT be rebuying BRs of the HD-DVD titles I have until all of my players are toast. It's not worth it.

I also don't think the death nell for HD-DVD will occur until the Paramount 18 month deal passes and then its just a matter of time. I would almost bet you that we won't see anymore good BR sales nor will BR players hit the $200 mark anytime soon (if ever).

End of next year will probably be it for HD-DVD now. Fun while it lasted (even if it was still a pain in the rear).

Greg

cartman 01-04-08 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
I think the difference here, though, is that the HD DVD exclusive movies have been released on an HD format. It isn't the same as movies previously released on VHS and LD, that might have required quite a bit of work to get ready for DVD. Once the dust has settled, Paramount and Universal would be foolish to hold their HD DVD titles back from Blu-ray.

In my post (which I know you weren't addressing, but the quote fits :) ) I was also talking about things like "Casablanca", "V for Vendetta", "Grand Prix", "Forbidden Planet" etc, which may at some point come out on BD, but given their small sales so far on HD, might not be for quite a while. When Paramount goes back to BD, things like "Transformers" will undoubtedly get quick releases (tying in with the release of TF2?), but I'd not put money on seeing the before mentioned Warner discs any time soon (well, maybe V).

Hammer99 01-04-08 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
Interesting to note the reaction of red owners when faced with this kind of news compared to how the blue owners reacted when Paramount went exclusive...

Not exactly apples-to-apples. Paramount was a total shock, while today's move has been expected for quite a while now.

RockStrongo 01-04-08 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
I know you're only joking, but really, I had no horse in this race. ...So, to the extent that the announcement will hasten the end of the war, then yes, I guess I would say "Mission Accomplished." :D

Ha...i was just kidding...trying to make a lame Bush joke. ;)

RockStrongo 01-04-08 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by cartman
but I'd not put money on seeing the before mentioned Warner discs any time soon (well, maybe V).

And Batman Begins either before Dark Knight theatrical run or DVD release.

chris_sc77 01-04-08 03:36 PM

Those cocksuckers. I hate you soooo much WB.

Ocelot 01-04-08 03:36 PM

Look at the bright side, time to pick up cheap HD-DVDs :) Or sell if they are "rare."

Like i said before, you shouldn't buy more than one HD-DVD player, just b/c the A2 was $100...

kvrdave 01-04-08 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by RoboDad
People are buying HDTVs by the millions now, but they won't adopt HD media until the war is over.

Personally, I don't think that is what has kept people out. I don't think the average person thinks the difference is worth an upgrade.

With DVD sales slowing down, the movie companies want something to replace DVDs, but this won't do that. It is great while we wait for the next thing, though.

The Bus 01-04-08 03:37 PM

We need some D-Theatre owners here to lend us some support. :lol:

Sparrow 01-04-08 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist
A good reason to come out of retirement and congratulate Warner Brothers for bringing this asinine war to closure. :up:

Pro-B

Welcome Back, Pro-B!

As to this news, outstanding! I went neutral for a short while, thought better of it and am glad to have chosen blu (HD DVD player, long gone :)).

This is welcome news as there are quite a few Universal and Paramount titles that I'd like to own in HD, now there appears to be an excellent chance that I'll be able to play those on my BD player.

Now, I'm off to read what has been posted at thedigitalbits.

RichC2 01-04-08 03:38 PM

I don't think that's the problem either, people love that phrase "High Definition", but the Blu players need to get substantially cheaper to really catch on. But until prices do come down, Blu supporters can expect many more B1G1 deals.

This news really seems to bring out the true nature of some posters on this and other sites, I wonder if they realize just how pompous and asinine they're coming across as.

vcuram 01-04-08 03:38 PM

My A2 and my HD-DVDs aren't going anywhere, but I'm not going to be buying anymore (after Zodiac comes in). I've actually been buying a lot more BDs lately (including switching my Blade Runner HD pre-order to BD), so it's not a big deal to me. I like the PS3 much more than the A2 anyway.

I'd imagine we'll see a lot less B1G1 sales on BDs, which sucks.

The Bus 01-04-08 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by kvrdave
Personally, I don't think that is what has kept people out. I don't think the average person thinks the difference is worth an upgrade.

I think with there now being one format, we'll see a big rush of people coming in. But... even if HDM sales are doubled or tripled, it's going to be pretty paltry. And now keep in mind a price hurdle is there for a lot of buyers: if you were HD DVD only before, now you need to buy a BD player. And those haven't hit the $99-$199 prices yet... at all.


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