MrDs10e

I don't have a rooting interest either way. I couldn't care less if HD-DVD or BD wins the war. I just know that one will. And from what I see right now, HD-DVD is taking the steps that lead to victory, though there is still plenty of time for the tide to change. I'm just telling you what I see. Backing by studios doesn't mean much. They can change horses midstream, and WOULD if they thought BD wasn't going to have the player market saturation to move their discs.

In five years, SD-DVD will be in about the same place in the market as VHS is now, and a SINGLE HD format will have at least 80% of the market. Write that down, put it in your wallet, and in 2012 pull it out and see that I'm right. If there are really so many that don't realize that this is inevitable, I should start a website and take bets on it. I could retire in 5 years. In the long term, HD-DVD and BD coexisting as anywhere near equals is not a plausible scenario. And SD-DVD remaining the standard for more than another 3-5 years is not a plausible scenario either.

beesonosu

While I'd like to agree with your prophesy of the future, I'm not quite sure that DVDs will be a primary concern in 2012.

Members are already starting to plan- http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....highlight=2012

MrDs10e

^^^^LOL, yes, in truth that is the more urgent matter that we should be discussing

Qui Gon Jim

I don't think too many are saying this is a death blow. This sale has proved significant in moving people off the fence, however. That is undeniable. I have long said (before the was an HD forum) that the player prices would be a HUGE factor the first couple of years. It is far easier to justify $100 than $400. I hope that Sony counters with some kick ass pricing on BD decks.

Sony does have millions of BD capable PS3s in homes, but they also have tons of UMD capable PSPs in homes too, but studio support has dried up. Sony (Columbia Tri-Star) will support BD to the bitter end. It will be interesting to see if a larger installed base becomes too enticing for BD studios to ignore. This comes on the heels of BD's holy grail of copy protection being broken open.

This format war is far from over.

DVD Polizei

Well, you have to ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky?

Nah, it isn't that one. But seriously, the question is, let's say HD DVD "wins". Do you think Sony is going to start making HD DVDs? Fat chance. I suspect they'll give the middle finger to consumers and if they do, the titles will sell for $50. I just don't see Sony rolling over just because HD DVD is declared a winner. It would make things very frustrating for the rest of us.

Blu-ray has penetrated a large audience, and so has HD DVD, so both formats will be around after the December 31, 2007.

Also, we haven't heard the response from Sony in regards to discounting PS3's. And for BD movies, they might even do a B1G2 Free promotion. Sony has money, and they have room to play.

Qui Gon Jim

I'm not saying Sony doesn't have money, but another year like this year for Sony and it could mean trouble for the company as a whole, not just the BD/VG divisions. PS3 caused huge losses for the company. It will be interesting to see how far they will go to win.

darkside

They have a lot of arms and their TV division is very profitable again. They will be fine, but at some point they will have to make a decision if the PS3 remains a huge money loser.

tonymontana313

Plus consoles are always sold at a loss if I'm not mistaken. Microsoft still hasn't seen a penny from the gen 1 and gen 2 Xbox.

darkside

You make it up on software and the PS3 isn't moving consoles or software that in any way makes up for the costs. PS3 is a long term project for them so they still have time to turn it around.

llandros

I seem to recall that Disney and Fox were major holdouts back in 1997 when they supported that other format, DIVx over DVD.

darkside

You would be correct. There were even a few people back then saying that Divx would succeed based purely on the exclusive support from Disney.

tacos

I'm going to rent movies from here on until there is only one format! May happen may not. But this sucks.

Zodiac_Speaking

Just choose one and go. I chose Blu Ray, b/c currently they have the titles I enjoy most-Disney, Sony, Anchor Bay...

I am only buying certain titles that I truely like and will benefit from HD. I still buy plenty of SDVD.