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Old 04-20-07, 06:49 AM
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Wal-Mart to sell $299 Chinese HD DVD Players soon?

Found this on Engadget, sounds like pretty big news for HD DVD...

Get ready to get your cheap HD on kids. Wal-Mart just threw down some serious green for a batch of Chinese-made HD DVD players. Just as they brought DVD players down to near-disposable status, their deal for 2 million HD DVD players produced by China's Great Wall corporation will ultimately do the same for hi-def optical. The guts are developed by Taiwan's Fuh Yuan with a touch of help from Japan's TDK. How much? A magical $299, that's how much -- $100 less than the cheapest available HD DVD rig (Toshiba's A2) and half of Sony's $600 BDP-S300 Blu-ray Disc player. It's not clear when we'll see the first units on Wal-Mart shelves, only that the final shipment from the order is expected before 2008 is over.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/20/t...er-on-the-way/
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It's fun to play with numbers. The cheapest price for the A2 is $309. Now why would I pay $10 less for an inferior machine? No reason, that's why.
Old 04-20-07, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
It's fun to play with numbers. The cheapest price for the A2 is $309. Now why would I pay $10 less for an inferior machine? No reason, that's why.
That doesn't matter. The average consumer doesn't shop around online for the lowest price. Having a player at $299 retail means a lot.
Old 04-20-07, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
It's fun to play with numbers. The cheapest price for the A2 is $309. Now why would I pay $10 less for an inferior machine? No reason, that's why.
Walmart is the biggest retailer. For mass market success, a product needs to be available there. Comparing the online price against a Wally price is apples to oranges.
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Walmart is the biggest retailer. For mass market success, a product needs to be available there. Comparing the online price against a Wally price is apples to oranges.
I'm almost waiting til you see FULL SCREEN HD-DVDs on sale at Walmart !!
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Well if it takes till 08 to get them this will be no news at all. Toshiba will likely have players cheaper than that by 08.
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WIRED blog:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/0..._dvd_play.html

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$299 is MSRP. You can bet it will be less than that on Walmart shelves.
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Originally Posted by speedyray
Well if it takes till 08 to get them this will be no news at all. Toshiba will likely have players cheaper than that by 08.
It isn't that they won't get them till 08, it is that they will be getting their last shipment in 08. We don't know when exactly they will be on shelves, but I would guess by this summer.
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If the players get decent reviews, and pop up for less than 250, I may have to jump on board.
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Fantastic news. And I'm glad I got my A2 for not much more than that... although I still haven't had time to sit down and watch a single movie from start to finish.
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Originally Posted by tonyjg
I'm almost waiting til you see FULL SCREEN HD-DVDs on sale at Walmart !!
I'm just about to jump into HD (thank you IRS!), so I'm pretty clueless on HD. But that was a total joke, right? There won't be any full screen HD, right?
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I would be surprised if "FULL SCREEN" HD DVD does eventually surface. Except this time it will be pan and scanning 2.35:1 movies to fit on the 16:9 display without bars. Perhaps even cropping or stretching classic 1.33:1 films.
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This was taken from the link, they updated their story

Update: Pull back the reigns HD DVD fanboys, Akihabara now says that they've made a "huge mistake" with their translation: the original source called it "藍光 HD DVD and 藍光 means Blu-RAY." In other words, Blu-ray HD DVD. Huh? Word to the wise: since both formats use blue lasers, it's best to wait for an English press release before either camp celebrates.

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I get what you are saying DJ, but if this is true, it should be good for the HDDVD side. In fact, it needs to happen in the next 12 months before they lose too much momentum.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I would be surprised if "FULL SCREEN" HD DVD does eventually surface. Except this time it will be pan and scanning 2.35:1 movies to fit on the 16:9 display without bars.
Yeah, that already happens on some HD cable channels, doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by cultshock
Yeah, that already happens on some HD cable channels, doesn't it?
It may just be retaining the OAR though...thus, no stretching.

Plus, this might be for Blu-Ray, not HD-DVD as what the link says now.
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Originally Posted by cultshock
Yeah, that already happens on some HD cable channels, doesn't it?
Absolutely. You have all sorts of stuff going on:

Channels like HBO are cropping 2.35:1 stuff to fit in 16x9
Universal HD is taking 1.33:1 shows (Knight Rider, Equalizer) and cropping to fit in 16x9
TNT HD is stretching some 1.33:1 shows (Charmed, etc.) to fill the frame
etc.

I don't think anything like this has hit the HD DVD/BD realm, but if it goes mainstream, it's only a matter of time.

I'm fine with it, as long as the OAR (whatever that may be) is avaialble as well. That's worked out fine for standard DVD and I don't see why it won't work for HD as well.
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While not a movie, Dragon's Lair is the first. The recently released BD is a 1.78:1 chop job from the 4:3 OAR. The funny thing is, the PC HD version (which is on a DVD with a fraction of the space) contains the original ratio plus a 5:4 version.
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However, as far as I can tell, the changes to Dragon Lair were approved by its creator, Don Bluth. Not exactly an example of changing it for the Wal-Mart crowd.
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Originally Posted by DJ_Longfellow
This was taken from the link, they updated their story
Check out the discussion over at AVS. There's a bunch of tit-for-tat regarding the translation of the Chinese news release and some confusion about "Blue Laser HD-DVD" possibly referring to Blu-Ray or both formats, but late in the day there has been confirmation from multiple sources that it is indeed 2 million HD-DVD players.

Not too shabby for a format that Sony has declared dead 17 times already this year...
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Communists! Communists! Go China!
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While I could care less about the hardware, at least this means my local Wal-Mart might stock discs.

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My wally world has HD and Blu-ray...small selection. Prices high. Tho they had Casino Royale for like $18.99 the first week it was out.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
However, as far as I can tell, the changes to Dragon Lair were approved by its creator, Don Bluth. Not exactly an example of changing it for the Wal-Mart crowd.
I don't see any reason why it can't be both "director approved" and an alteration for the masses.

Originally Posted by bboisvert
I'm fine with it, as long as the OAR (whatever that may be) is available as well. That's worked out fine for standard DVD and I don't see why it won't work for HD as well.
It hasn't "worked out fine" for DVD though. There are several instances where films got 4:3 releases with no OAR release until much later, if at all. There are also instances on DVD where only the "Unrated", extended, or director's cut got an OAR release, with the theatrical cut only available in 4:3. There are even instances of a DVD containing an altered image of 16:9, while no OAR version is made available.

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