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Old 02-26-07 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
DVD's really didn't have anything to live up to. They were light years beyond anything that the general public had experienced before. They were fantastic all around and it didn't take much to convince people to drop VHS.

The HD formats need to work OVERTIME on doing that. Dropping thing early on is, IMHO, definitely not the way to do that. There won't be an opportunity to double-dip if they keep this up and I hope they're not naive enough to believe that they're guaranteed that point of success.
I agree completely but that doesn't change the fact that these companies are much more concerned about the size of their wallets than making customers happy. You may not be one of them, but I would guess that the majority of people who have already adopted one or both formats are also the people who will go out any buy the "collectors set" of a movie they already own because it's a new release. The studios know this. So why (in their minds) should they release a full featured set when only a small percentage of the population would be able to buy it. Release a bare-boded disc now, then when (if) the format blows up, release a nice new set with all the features. The masses will buy it for the first time, and the early adopters will buy it again.

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Old 02-26-07 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by noonan4224
I agree completely but that doesn't change the fact that these companies are much more concerned about the size of their wallets than making customers happy. You may not be one of them, but I would guess that the majority of people who have already adopted one or both formats are also the people who will go out any buy the "collectors set" of a movie they already own because it's a new release. The studios know this. So why (in their minds) should they release a full featured set when only a small percentage of the population would be able to buy it. Release a bare-boded disc now, then when (if) the format blows up, release a nice new set with all the features. The masses will buy it for the first time, and the early adopters will buy it again.
Oh trust me. I double and triple (sometimes more) dip all the time. I'm an extras-whore. I've been recording "them" since I was a little kid and work on archiving everything in my spare time.

But the general public ain't gonna buy it. At the moment, these are essentially high-definition laserdiscs.
Old 02-26-07 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
But the general public ain't gonna buy it. At the moment, these are essentially high-definition laserdiscs.
Correct but as of now the "general public" doesn't own either format. Only us electronic whores do. They know we'll buy them regardless.
Old 02-26-07 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Wrong.

It's laziness. Pure and simple.

There is a thread over at AVS that lists the sizes on the discs. There's room for the extras being left off. For some reason, they're just not putting them on there.

For example, Flight Plan had 20GB worth of room left on the disc. You want to know how large the extras were that were left off? about 2gb.
I agree that it's not likely all technical reasons, but this certianly seems to account for some of it... especially the early BD releases (e.g. Silent Hill, Fifth Element) and perhaps some recent Fox releases that are still using 25GB discs (e.g. Planet of the Apes).

Also, how exactly do you know it's "laziness"? It could be, but we have no hard evidence what-so-ever. It could also be greed (desire to double-dip as others have said), or even a belief that audiences aren't interested.

Point is, it could be a number of factors. To say that you automatically know the answer is irresponsible and arrogant.

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Old 02-26-07 | 08:05 PM
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Point is, it could be a number of factors. To say that you automatically know the answer is irresponsible and arrogant.
ohhh.....it's just too easy.

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