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Dalvin 02-22-07 05:18 PM

My general rule of thumb is that I never buy extended waranties on stationary items

collven 02-23-07 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by Dalvin
My general rule of thumb is that I never buy extended waranties on stationary items


Here's the nice thing about BB's replacement plan though: it reimburses your full purchase price. Let's say, 23 months from now, you have some little nagging problem with your PS3. It doesn't even have to be something major, maybe the disk drive is starting to make funny noises or something. You take it back to BB and, if you bought the 60GB version, they will give you $599 plus tax in store credit that you can use on anything in the store. By then, the PS3 should have gone through at least one price drop, so you pick up a new one and still have money left over.

I went through 3 PS2s, I just replaced mine every time Sony dropped the price. There wasn't even anything wrong with them. I just said I was getting the dreaded "disc read error" intermittently and it was never a problem. That's one of the main reasons I just got the 20GB version of the PS3. When they drop the price on the 60GB, mine will magically start having "issues" and I'll get the 60GB.

Carl Spackler 02-23-07 08:55 AM

how much is the best buy plan on the 60gb model?

lizard 02-23-07 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by collven
Here's the nice thing about BB's replacement plan though: it reimburses your full purchase price. Let's say, 23 months from now, you have some little nagging problem with your PS3. It doesn't even have to be something major, maybe the disk drive is starting to make funny noises or something. You take it back to BB and, if you bought the 60GB version, they will give you $599 plus tax in store credit that you can use on anything in the store. By then, the PS3 should have gone through at least one price drop, so you pick up a new one and still have money left over.

I went through 3 PS2s, I just replaced mine every time Sony dropped the price. There wasn't even anything wrong with them. I just said I was getting the dreaded "disc read error" intermittently and it was never a problem. That's one of the main reasons I just got the 20GB version of the PS3. When they drop the price on the 60GB, mine will magically start having "issues" and I'll get the 60GB.

There's a word for that: "fraud".

BravesMG 02-23-07 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by collven
I went through 3 PS2s, I just replaced mine every time Sony dropped the price. There wasn't even anything wrong with them. I just said I was getting the dreaded "disc read error" intermittently and it was never a problem. That's one of the main reasons I just got the 20GB version of the PS3. When they drop the price on the 60GB, mine will magically start having "issues" and I'll get the 60GB.

I buy warranties for almost all of my electronic components and that kind of stuff is the reason they look at me like I'm taking cash out of their register when I try to use the warranty for an actual problem.

Sparrow 02-23-07 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
how much is the best buy plan on the 60gb model?

I bought the 60GB PS3 today with the Extended Warranty for $99 (2 years)

Dalvin 02-23-07 06:28 PM

That's not too bad actually, but I'm so meticulous with my stuff, and have no kids , so I'd have to decline that warranty.

collven 02-24-07 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by lizard
There's a word for that: "fraud".


No, it's called using the plan like everyone should. If they cared about their replacement plans being abused, they would change the terms. And I always follow the rules of the plan. For instance, technically, you aren't supposed to return the item to the store. You are supposed to call the 800 # in the brochure and they will send you a voucher to mail the item back to them. They will inspect it and, if deemed necessary, they will mail you back the voucher for the purchase price. I've never been turned down. The disc read errors on PS2s were a known problem and intermittent, but still annoying. Could I have continued to use my console, sure? Why should I though with the replacement plan. I just made sure to wait for a price drop before I would actually claim it.

Believe me, BB makes a lot of money of their PRPs and PSPs because people forget to use them. I just make sure to take advantage of mine.

Josh Z 02-24-07 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by collven
No, it's called using the plan like everyone should.

What you're doing is indisputably fraud, no matter how you try to rationalize it.

jonw9 02-24-07 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by collven
No, it's called using the plan like everyone should. If they cared about their replacement plans being abused, they would change the terms. And I always follow the rules of the plan. For instance, technically, you aren't supposed to return the item to the store. You are supposed to call the 800 # in the brochure and they will send you a voucher to mail the item back to them. They will inspect it and, if deemed necessary, they will mail you back the voucher for the purchase price. I've never been turned down. The disc read errors on PS2s were a known problem and intermittent, but still annoying. Could I have continued to use my console, sure? Why should I though with the replacement plan. I just made sure to wait for a price drop before I would actually claim it.

Believe me, BB makes a lot of money of their PRPs and PSPs because people forget to use them. I just make sure to take advantage of mine.


I have insurance on my house that is coming for renewal, should I burn the place down so I can get a new one? I would hate to waste all of the premium I spent.

The same for the PSPs at BB. They are insurance in case something goes wrong. People don't use them because they had not problem with their product, not because they are stupid. Perhaps a better term would be "honest". It is reasons like this that I had to contact corporate with the problem on my TV. 5 repairs in a year and they didn't want to replace the set. But I am glad you got your slim PS2.

And to get back on topic, I would probably not get the extended warranty on the PS3. I had NO problems with my PS2, PS1, and various other items I purchased. I did get the warranty on the 360. It all depends on how lucky (or unlucky) you feel and what your past experiences are.

Drexl 02-24-07 01:39 PM

I went ahead and got the plan at Wal-Mart because it was only about $30. (Another effect of getting the 20GB version - the plan cost half what it would with the 60GB because it was under $500.)

collven 02-25-07 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
What you're doing is indisputably fraud, no matter how you try to rationalize it.


Best Buy inspected every PS2 I returned. If they wanted to refuse the exchange, they could have. The disc read error was a legitimate error, just intermittent. Were the PS2s still functional? Sure they were. But I guess the point I should have made is that the plans don't just cover major damage or non-functioning units. Small or intermittent issues are covered as well. Plus, it's nice to get the full purchase price back.

Josh Z 02-25-07 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by collven
Best Buy inspected every PS2 I returned. If they wanted to refuse the exchange, they could have. The disc read error was a legitimate error, just intermittent. Were the PS2s still functional? Sure they were. But I guess the point I should have made is that the plans don't just cover major damage or non-functioning units. Small or intermittent issues are covered as well.

But you've already admitted that your PS2 didn't have the disc read error. You bought it at original price, then returned it when the price dropped even though there was nothing wrong with it, so that you could get an exchange for the cheaper version of the same unit and pocket the difference.

If you don't believe that's fraud, please provide us with your name and address. I'll be glad to bring the matter up with your local authorities to get their opinion on the matter.

indy2029 02-25-07 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Drexl
I went ahead and got the plan at Wal-Mart because it was only about $30. (Another effect of getting the 20GB version - the plan cost half what it would with the 60GB because it was under $500.)


How long is the $30 warranty? 2 years? That sounds like a great deal!

Drexl 02-25-07 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by indy2029
How long is the $30 warranty? 2 years? That sounds like a great deal!

They said it was 2 years after the manufacturer's warranty is over.

collven 02-26-07 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
But you've already admitted that your PS2 didn't have the disc read error. You bought it at original price, then returned it when the price dropped even though there was nothing wrong with it, so that you could get an exchange for the cheaper version of the same unit and pocket the difference.

If you don't believe that's fraud, please provide us with your name and address. I'll be glad to bring the matter up with your local authorities to get their opinion on the matter.


OK, mister internet cop. You got me. I'm so sorry to you and to BB corporate. I'll never do it again.

Oh wait, yes I will.

lizard 02-26-07 09:23 AM

^ You can be a smart ass if you like, but that doesn't change the salient fact that what you are doing is theft by fraud.

BravesMG 02-26-07 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by lizard
^ You can be a smart ass if you like, but that doesn't change the salient fact that what you are doing is theft by fraud.

:thumbsup:

cultshock 02-26-07 11:44 AM

Yeah, in the future when return policies get much stricter and more of a pain in the ass, we will certainly know what type of people we can thank. -rolleyes-

namja 02-26-07 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by collven
OK, mister internet cop. You got me. I'm so sorry to you and to BB corporate. I'll never do it again.

Oh wait, yes I will.

What you are encouraging is fraud, and posting such things is against forum rules. Unless you're willing to admit that what you did was fraud and apologize for it, please stay out of this thread.

namja
Moderator, DVD Talk Forums

The Monkees 02-26-07 01:35 PM

I too am buying a PS3 soon. The only reason I want one is for the Blu-Ray DVD player. It's much cheaper than buy a Blu-Ray DVD player. Plus, I want to get Rocky Balboa when it comes out. Hopefully, I'll get it this week.

spainlinx0 02-26-07 01:54 PM

That makes me pissed off, but for my friend. He purchased the Xbox plan when it first came out, and he had hard drive failure. His Xbox was legitimately fried. He paid 300 for the system, and now he goes to bring it back. They gave him a new Xbox, but I think it came with 2 games (the new system) and the price had been dropped. They not only didn't give him the 300 check you seem to be getting, but they took out the pack-in game even though the replacement system was cheaper. How on earth are you getting to return systems like that? I don't remember that check back being part of BB's plan.

Oh, and by the way those plans don't start after the manufacturer's warranty unless for speakers. Meaning if you have a year warranty from Sony, you're buying one year extra from Best Buy.

Wick 02-28-07 12:56 AM

I decided to buy a PS3 yesterday, due to the fact that I want to play Resistance badly, and also because of some Blu-ray exclusives (The Prestige, Stranger Than Fiction, Casino Royale, Monster House, etc.) However, I've yet to open it because I'm not sure of whether or not I should've purchased it from EB Games.

I usually get extended warranties with my consoles, but they were asking $100 per year, for the warranty. Sony supposedly offers a one year warranty on the PS3, so I didn't feel like spending an extra hundred on another one. I'm questioning my thinking on that, but I'm also wondering about other available warranties.

Do any of you have any idea about Best Buy or Future Shop and their warranties on PS3s, here in Canada?

The Monkees 02-28-07 01:15 AM

Do you need an HDMI cable? Does it come with the system or do you have to buy it separately? Can I still play Blu-Ray DVDs without the HDMI cable?

Wick 02-28-07 01:20 AM

From what I've heard, only a composite cable comes with the PS3. All component cables and/or HDMI cables are sold separately.

I may have heard wrong though. I haven't opened my PS3 yet, so I can't say for sure.


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