Josh Z

So you've actually watched The Omen for yourself, then? All your post indicates is that two different review sites gave it different ratings, and you're discounting the one that gave a Blu-ray a negative review.

joshd2012

Yup. Didn't like the movie, but the PQ/AQ was excellent, as Chad reviewed. 3.5/5 is hardly negative, but definitely doesn't reflect how good the movie actually looks and sounds.

matome

Here's the ad and the Yahoo article about it:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/061120/20061120005180.html?.v=1

TV ad

matome

From what I recognized: Superman Returns, Harry Potter, Fantastic Four, Pearl Harbor (?), Pirates of The Caribbean: Black Pearl, X-Men (the first movie), Gone in 60 Seconds.

joshd2012

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061120/nym001.html?.v=62

This is in obvious response to the HD DVD promo group announcing they have shipped 1.5 million. The 3 million figure does not include Panasonic's line.

digitalfreaknyc

May? Did i miss something?

joshd2012

No. The launch was in June, they needed to make the discs before then.

Rusty James

NYT panned the PS3 today, although there isn't a single sentence in the entire piece about its Blu-ray playback performance, which is the only thing about the machine that interests me. Aaargh.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/20/arts/20game.html

RockStrongo

Yeah, my biggest gripe is that it doesnt come with hdtv cables. They include a BD disc, but no hdtv cables?? Thats a bad move IMO.

JoeSixPack will be using composite cables to connect to his RCA hdtv from walmart.

Supermallet

More likely J6P will be using the composite cables to their RCA SDTV and wondering why the racing game they included doesn't seem to do anything but play cutscenes.

Goldblum

"Will be using" being the operative words. It's doubtful J6P has gotten his greedy little mits on this piece of hardware yet.

Supermallet

I don't know, the lady whose water broke while in line for a PS3 and she refused to leave the line is probably in the J6P category.

digitalfreaknyc

link?

Supermallet

It was mentioned in the official PS3 thread in the video game forum.

digitalfreaknyc

so did Time magazine...

"Sony's Playstation 3 is Not Worth the Hype"
http://www.time.com/time/business/pr...560635,00.html

The Bus

One article I read somewhere said Blu-Ray and HD DVD did not look different. Another at a mostly industry/trade site had this to say:

Now that the general media is picking up on this, it will be extremely interesting to learn about this stuff. A high praise or jeer on some national magazine is thousands of times more impactful than any single post on a blog or message board.

Jay G.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Not Sony, Time Magazine; they should be embarrassed for publishing that shoddily written article.

First off, the writer criticizes Sony for naming their processor?
Apparently the author's been living in a hole for the past 13 years since Intel named the Pentium.

Also, the author completely dismisses BD movie playback, apparently not even testing the free movie that it came with. However, that's ignoring the market that does exist for HD video. Even MS has gotten into the game with the HD DVD add-on for their system.

The author also mentions people camping outside a Gamestop for the PS3, when nobody camped outside a Gamestop since Gamestop had sold pre-orders, so there was no need.

Finally, the writing just comes off as insufferably smug. He does actually manage to make a few good points (Sony should've included an HD compatible cable, although not necessarily HDMI), but his too-cute (hey! a Star Wars reference!) and snarky tone totally undermines it.

RockStrongo

I think he hit the nail on the head. Seriously, its overpriced for the majority of users. He is representing them.

Most people dont care about BD playback, much less have an HDTV. So, why shell out $600 for a system that you can get most of the games on Wii or 360 right now.

Like he said, maybe next year when more exclusive games come out it will be worth it. But, for now, it isnt worth it. That was the point of the article.

Im inclined to agree.

For me, BD playback is really the only draw since none of the games interest me. That being the case, I might put that money towards a stand alone BD player.

Jay G.

Most people don't. That doesn't mean that nobody does. And I find it funny that he never mentioned the term HDTV, instead referring them as "top-notch" or "fancy" TVs.

Also, I remember reading somewhere that it was expected that 80% of Xbox 360 owners would have at least one HDTV by the end of the year. So even saying that "most" of the potential PS3 buyers don't care about HDTV may be a stretch.

If that was the point, he told it very ineptly. He seemed more upset over the lack of a rumble feature than the lack of exclusive games.

Again, he did have a few good points. However, the article overall is just horribly written.

digitalfreaknyc

One interesting thing is that almost all of the top 10 selling BD's on Amazon are BD exclusive at this point. Earlier, that wasn't the case.
Personally, I think there are several ways of interpriting that.

Drexl

Plus, the Time article calls it "Blu-Ray DVD," which is a sign of a poorly (if at all) researched article.

RockStrongo

I think most gaming systems are worthless at the beginning. The 360 was really no different. Funny that people shell out all this money when there are hardly any games (or movies).

Like he said, its not worth the hype. Especially, when people are camping out for days and paying thousands on ebay!!

ianholm

Does anyone know if Enemy of The State was delayed? I don't see anyone online who has it in stock and my Best Buy didn't have it today either.

matome

Mr. Cinema says he saw it at a couple of his Best Buys, so apparently it is out.

Mr. Cinema

Yeah, I posted the info on AVS. 2 of my local BB's have this in stock for pickup. I didn't go in and actually see the title, but the store locator shows it available.

I'm also curious about the first week sales numbers for X-men: The Last Stand. It was actually on sale and showed up just before the PS3 release. So we'll see if those 2 factors had any impact. Tough to figure out exactly how many copies MI3 sold since the reports combined both formats.