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If you look at some of the press releases flying around lately, you'd think that HD DVD is ready to pack up our tent and go home. Suffice to say, we're not goin' anywhere.
But what about the Nielsen numbers you might ask? What about the "independent" research reports, the subjective customer surveys and the fact that it's the Chinese Year of Pig? What does it all mean?
It's all in how you look at the data. And while you might not believe our marketing spin over someone else's, here's our take on the numbers:
Right now, overall movie sales to date for each format are roughly equal. Some see that as Blu-ray catching up and "winning." But look a bit farther and you will see that Blu-ray has a 5:1 hardware ratio over HD DVD right now due to sales of the PlayStation 3. That means five times as many players on the market. But if that's the case, why aren't their movie sales outpacing HD DVD by a similar ratio?
We'll let you speculate on that one. In fact, it's the opposite - every HD DVD owner out there is buying five times as many movies per player. That's huge! We'll take that kind of devoted consumer any day.
Yes, we know - our anecdotes versus theirs. But the real message here is don't believe everything you read – try it out on your own. Kick the tires. Check the prices. See if we're offering what we say we are. And as always, you can go to www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com for the latest news and updates.
There is truth to this. There are a million PS3s in the US, but Departed debuted with only 20,000 sold. Not a runawy success among the million possible buyers especially if you factor in the stand alone BD owners.
Sales of Bond could be a killer for HD DVD though.
If you look at some of the press releases flying around lately, you'd think that HD DVD is ready to pack up our tent and go home. Suffice to say, we're not goin' anywhere.
But what about the Nielsen numbers you might ask? What about the "independent" research reports, the subjective customer surveys and the fact that it's the Chinese Year of Pig? What does it all mean?
It's all in how you look at the data. And while you might not believe our marketing spin over someone else's, here's our take on the numbers:
Right now, overall movie sales to date for each format are roughly equal. Some see that as Blu-ray catching up and "winning." But look a bit farther and you will see that Blu-ray has a 5:1 hardware ratio over HD DVD right now due to sales of the PlayStation 3. That means five times as many players on the market. But if that's the case, why aren't their movie sales outpacing HD DVD by a similar ratio?
We'll let you speculate on that one. In fact, it's the opposite - every HD DVD owner out there is buying five times as many movies per player. That's huge! We'll take that kind of devoted consumer any day.
Yes, we know - our anecdotes versus theirs. But the real message here is don't believe everything you read – try it out on your own. Kick the tires. Check the prices. See if we're offering what we say we are. And as always, you can go to www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com for the latest news and updates.
Sales of Bond could be a killer for HD DVD though.
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Originally Posted by darkside
There is truth to this. There are a million PS3s in the US, but Departed debuted with only 20,000 sold. Not a runawy success among the million possible buyers especially if you factor in the stand alone BD owners.
Sales of Bond could be a killer for HD DVD though.
Sales of Bond could be a killer for HD DVD though.
It definately skews the numbers for hardware and software sales.
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
See? This is the kind of company I can get behind. None of that "We will crush all who stand in our way!" bull. Just honest "try us out and if you like us we'll do our best to make you happy."
If you believe in your product, it will sell itself.
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Please. We all know the only way HD-DVD has a chance of winning to is to make even more ridiculous statements. Here's some submissions for the consortium:
"HD-DVD has eliminated third-world poverty and wiped out hunger."
"HD-DVD is the father of Anna Nicole's baby."
"Tests have proved Blu-Ray will make you sterile."
"HD-DVD has eliminated third-world poverty and wiped out hunger."
"HD-DVD is the father of Anna Nicole's baby."
"Tests have proved Blu-Ray will make you sterile."
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Originally Posted by Centurion
I know what you mean. I like that non-hostile attitude too.
If you believe in your product, it will sell itself.
If you believe in your product, it will sell itself.
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http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/press...007summer.html
HD DVD Studios Confirm Spring and Early Summer Schedules for New Releases, Catalog Titles and Concert Videos
Title line-up and strategic hardware price reductions reinforce strength of HD DVD format
LOS ANGELES (March 28, 2007) -- The top studios backing HD DVD, including Universal Studios Home Entertainment, Warner Home Video, Paramount Home Entertainment, The Weinstein Company, Genius Products, and Eagle Rock Entertainment today announced more than 70 specific titles and release windows through July 2007. With movie titles like Smokin' Aces, The Complete Matrix Trilogy, and DreamGirls, HD DVD continues to deliver on promises made to fans of high definition. Additional titles for the remainder of 2007 will be announced this summer.
With attach rates that still far exceed other high definition formats, HD DVD movies continue to sell briskly at retail to a growing consumer base. The 2007 title line-up from the core HD DVD studios, combined with a strong HD DVD title and hardware presence in North America, Europe and Asia, showcases the format's global appeal and unmatched technology features. Effective April 1st, Toshiba is implementing strategic retail price reductions on its full line of HD DVD players for the U.S. market. The entry level HD-A2 will have a suggested retail price of $399.99; and the new HD-A20, with 1080p output, will be introduced at $499 (available in stores in April). The top of the line HD-XA2 was already repositioned to $799.99 on March 1st.
"The spring is ramping up well for HD DVD, with an incredible list of movies and the best priced hardware on the market," said Ken Graffeo, executive vice president, HD Strategic Marketing, Universal Studios Home Entertainment. "Our consumer base continues to buy movies at rates that outpace DVD in its early years, which shows the willingness of consumers to make the transition to high definition."
"HD DVD continues to perform exceptionally well for Warner Home Video, and we see this continuing as more titles from the HD DVD studios roll out and more hardware hits the market," said Steve Nickerson, senior vice president of market management for Warner Home Video. "Fans of high definition have a lot more to choose from with the release of long-awaited blockbusters like The Complete Matrix Trilogy on HD DVD."
"As hardware prices continue to fall, this is a great time to experience HD DVD," said Chris Saito, vice president, marketing, Paramount Home Entertainment. "Our HD DVD line-up for Spring and Summer 2007 has something for every audience, with hits ranging from Dreamgirls to Flags of Our Fathers."
From the six studios, the following schedules were released:
March
· Children of Men
· Happy Feet
· March of the Penguins
· National Geographic: Relentless Enemies
April
· Good Shepherd (C) (day & date)
· Smokin' Aces (C) (day & date)
· Payback: Straight, The Director's Cut
· A Scanner Darkly
· Dog Day Afternoon
· School for Scoundrels
· The Game
· The Jerk
· Feast
· Freedom Writers (day & date)
· Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
· Nutty Professor
· Failure to Launch
May
· The Ultimate Matrix Collection
· The Complete Matrix Trilogy
· Dreamgirls (day & date)
· 40-Year Old Virgin Unrated
· Flags of Our Fathers: Special Collector's Edition
· The Hitcher (C) (day & date)
· Mission: Impossible
· Mission: Impossible 2
· Black Christmas (2006)
· Harsh Times
· The Battle of the Bulge
· The Road Warrior
· The Fountain
· Smokey & the Bandit
· Alpha Dog (C) (day & date)
· The Skeleton Key
· The River
· Midnight Run
· The Frighteners
· Dragonheart
· The Big Lebowski
· Lost in Translation
June
· Bruce Almighty
· Liar Liar
· Coming To America
· Born on the 4th of July
· Daylight
· The Meaning of Life
· Freedom: Vol.1
· Yes Live in Montreux
· Santana: Hymns for Peace
· Deep Purple: They all Came Down to Montreux
· Sneakers
· Trading Places
· Meet Joe Black
· Being John Malkovich
· Mystery Men
· American Me
· The Watcher
· Bulletproof
· Mallrats
July
· Shaun of the Dead
· Billy Madison
· Cat in the Hat
· The Untouchables
· The Warriors
· Dante's Peak
· The War
· The Wedding Date
· The Bourne Identity
· In Good Company
· Streets of Fire
· Nutty Professor 2
· Scent of a Woman
· Darkman
· Sea of Love
· Deliver Us From Eva
Note: (C) Denotes combo disc format with an HD version and a standard DVD version on the same disc
About HD DVD
HD DVD is the next generation, post-DVD standard for high capacity, high definition optical discs, approved by the DVD Forum, which develops and defines DVD formats. Its more than 220 strong membership brings together leaders in movies and entertainment, computing, consumer electronics and software. HD DVD is fast becoming the primary visual medium for the age of high-definition TV. The North American HD DVD Promotional Group, Inc. is an organization established to promote the HD DVD format and educate consumers in North America. For more information and a complete listing of HD DVD launch titles please visit http://www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com.
HD DVD Studios Confirm Spring and Early Summer Schedules for New Releases, Catalog Titles and Concert Videos
Title line-up and strategic hardware price reductions reinforce strength of HD DVD format
LOS ANGELES (March 28, 2007) -- The top studios backing HD DVD, including Universal Studios Home Entertainment, Warner Home Video, Paramount Home Entertainment, The Weinstein Company, Genius Products, and Eagle Rock Entertainment today announced more than 70 specific titles and release windows through July 2007. With movie titles like Smokin' Aces, The Complete Matrix Trilogy, and DreamGirls, HD DVD continues to deliver on promises made to fans of high definition. Additional titles for the remainder of 2007 will be announced this summer.
With attach rates that still far exceed other high definition formats, HD DVD movies continue to sell briskly at retail to a growing consumer base. The 2007 title line-up from the core HD DVD studios, combined with a strong HD DVD title and hardware presence in North America, Europe and Asia, showcases the format's global appeal and unmatched technology features. Effective April 1st, Toshiba is implementing strategic retail price reductions on its full line of HD DVD players for the U.S. market. The entry level HD-A2 will have a suggested retail price of $399.99; and the new HD-A20, with 1080p output, will be introduced at $499 (available in stores in April). The top of the line HD-XA2 was already repositioned to $799.99 on March 1st.
"The spring is ramping up well for HD DVD, with an incredible list of movies and the best priced hardware on the market," said Ken Graffeo, executive vice president, HD Strategic Marketing, Universal Studios Home Entertainment. "Our consumer base continues to buy movies at rates that outpace DVD in its early years, which shows the willingness of consumers to make the transition to high definition."
"HD DVD continues to perform exceptionally well for Warner Home Video, and we see this continuing as more titles from the HD DVD studios roll out and more hardware hits the market," said Steve Nickerson, senior vice president of market management for Warner Home Video. "Fans of high definition have a lot more to choose from with the release of long-awaited blockbusters like The Complete Matrix Trilogy on HD DVD."
"As hardware prices continue to fall, this is a great time to experience HD DVD," said Chris Saito, vice president, marketing, Paramount Home Entertainment. "Our HD DVD line-up for Spring and Summer 2007 has something for every audience, with hits ranging from Dreamgirls to Flags of Our Fathers."
From the six studios, the following schedules were released:
March
· Children of Men
· Happy Feet
· March of the Penguins
· National Geographic: Relentless Enemies
April
· Good Shepherd (C) (day & date)
· Smokin' Aces (C) (day & date)
· Payback: Straight, The Director's Cut
· A Scanner Darkly
· Dog Day Afternoon
· School for Scoundrels
· The Game
· The Jerk
· Feast
· Freedom Writers (day & date)
· Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
· Nutty Professor
· Failure to Launch
May
· The Ultimate Matrix Collection
· The Complete Matrix Trilogy
· Dreamgirls (day & date)
· 40-Year Old Virgin Unrated
· Flags of Our Fathers: Special Collector's Edition
· The Hitcher (C) (day & date)
· Mission: Impossible
· Mission: Impossible 2
· Black Christmas (2006)
· Harsh Times
· The Battle of the Bulge
· The Road Warrior
· The Fountain
· Smokey & the Bandit
· Alpha Dog (C) (day & date)
· The Skeleton Key
· The River
· Midnight Run
· The Frighteners
· Dragonheart
· The Big Lebowski
· Lost in Translation
June
· Bruce Almighty
· Liar Liar
· Coming To America
· Born on the 4th of July
· Daylight
· The Meaning of Life
· Freedom: Vol.1
· Yes Live in Montreux
· Santana: Hymns for Peace
· Deep Purple: They all Came Down to Montreux
· Sneakers
· Trading Places
· Meet Joe Black
· Being John Malkovich
· Mystery Men
· American Me
· The Watcher
· Bulletproof
· Mallrats
July
· Shaun of the Dead
· Billy Madison
· Cat in the Hat
· The Untouchables
· The Warriors
· Dante's Peak
· The War
· The Wedding Date
· The Bourne Identity
· In Good Company
· Streets of Fire
· Nutty Professor 2
· Scent of a Woman
· Darkman
· Sea of Love
· Deliver Us From Eva
Note: (C) Denotes combo disc format with an HD version and a standard DVD version on the same disc
About HD DVD
HD DVD is the next generation, post-DVD standard for high capacity, high definition optical discs, approved by the DVD Forum, which develops and defines DVD formats. Its more than 220 strong membership brings together leaders in movies and entertainment, computing, consumer electronics and software. HD DVD is fast becoming the primary visual medium for the age of high-definition TV. The North American HD DVD Promotional Group, Inc. is an organization established to promote the HD DVD format and educate consumers in North America. For more information and a complete listing of HD DVD launch titles please visit http://www.TheLookAndSoundOfPerfect.com.
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· Children of Men
· Happy Feet
· Smokin' Aces (C) (day & date)
· Payback: Straight, The Director's Cut
· A Scanner Darkly
· The Game
· The Complete Matrix Trilogy
· The Road Warrior
· The Fountain
· The Frighteners
· Dragonheart
· Shaun of the Dead
· The Untouchables
· The Bourne Identity
Wow. Going to be an expensive few months!
· Happy Feet
· Smokin' Aces (C) (day & date)
· Payback: Straight, The Director's Cut
· A Scanner Darkly
· The Game
· The Complete Matrix Trilogy
· The Road Warrior
· The Fountain
· The Frighteners
· Dragonheart
· Shaun of the Dead
· The Untouchables
· The Bourne Identity
Wow. Going to be an expensive few months!
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The next couple months look really good. Lots of stuff coming out in different regions as well.
I picked a nice (and expensive!) time to adopt HD-DVD
I picked a nice (and expensive!) time to adopt HD-DVD
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Originally Posted by fryinpan1
March
· Happy Feet
· March of the Penguins
April
· Smokin' Aces (C) (day & date)
· Dog Day Afternoon
May
· 40-Year Old Virgin Unrated
· Midnight Run
· Lost in Translation
June
· The Meaning of Life
· Mallrats
July
· Shaun of the Dead
· The Warriors
· Dante's Peak
· Happy Feet
· March of the Penguins
April
· Smokin' Aces (C) (day & date)
· Dog Day Afternoon
May
· 40-Year Old Virgin Unrated
· Midnight Run
· Lost in Translation
June
· The Meaning of Life
· Mallrats
July
· Shaun of the Dead
· The Warriors
· Dante's Peak
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I want to get into HD or BD, but the disc I am waiting for is the new TMNT movie! I know the DVD comes out July 10th. If the HD or BD hasn't been announced yet, is there still time for it to be announced as coming out at the same time as the standard DVD? Sadly I don't see it in the list above. Anyone have any idea which format it will appear in? The opening credits had both Weinstein and Warner in it, so I'm not sure if it will be HD exclusive or both.
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Has anybody had the freezing problem at 28:49 with Happy Feet HD DVD. I have been able to reproduce it five times so far. Twice I have been able to fast foward to get it restarted but three times have had to reset the the playey. i have the A1 with 2.0 firmware.
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Originally Posted by Tigershard
I want to get into HD or BD, but the disc I am waiting for is the new TMNT movie! I know the DVD comes out July 10th. If the HD or BD hasn't been announced yet, is there still time for it to be announced as coming out at the same time as the standard DVD? Sadly I don't see it in the list above. Anyone have any idea which format it will appear in? The opening credits had both Weinstein and Warner in it, so I'm not sure if it will be HD exclusive or both.
#672
Originally Posted by Just Lurking
Has anybody had the freezing problem at 28:49 with Happy Feet HD DVD. I have been able to reproduce it five times so far. Twice I have been able to fast foward to get it restarted but three times have had to reset the the playey. i have the A1 with 2.0 firmware.
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Originally Posted by Just Lurking
Has anybody had the freezing problem at 28:49 with Happy Feet HD DVD. I have been able to reproduce it five times so far. Twice I have been able to fast foward to get it restarted but three times have had to reset the the playey. i have the A1 with 2.0 firmware.
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
You cant go by PS3 numbers though. As has been said many times, the PS3 is a gaming machine and most likely, a large percentage of PS3 owners arent buying BD movies due to not having an HDTV.
It definately skews the numbers for hardware and software sales.
It definately skews the numbers for hardware and software sales.



