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Qui Gon Jim 10-17-06 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
Are you really trying to say that "if HD DVD dies" they will still have momentum? :lol:

I assume your taunt was a joke and that you understand he means that BD has very little/no momentum right now.

Adam Tyner 10-17-06 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by lizard
Care to elaborate? What will "U-Control" features do?

It's kind of an enhanced version of Warner's In-Movie Experience. The only movie using it right now is The Fast the Furious: Tokyo Drift. If you're bored, the first paragraph of the 'Supplements' section in my review runs through some of its features. (Actually, I think The Break-Up has it too, but I don't have that and haven't seen any reviews.)

digitalfreaknyc 10-17-06 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by lizard
Care to elaborate? What will "U-Control" features do?

You mean, what DO they do? it's already being used on Tokyo Drift and will be used on Kong.

Kocheese99 10-17-06 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
If you don't mind me asking, what is your source?

My source is the distribution company our store has. They are pretty reliable when it comes to information on the street dates and they usually don't post anything unless they get the information from the studios. I just gave the distributor a call just to make sure it wasn't a mistake and they said it's accurate and pre booking ends tomorrow so it sounds like its coming.

joshd2012 10-17-06 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Kocheese99
My source is the distribution company our store has. They are pretty reliable when it comes to information on the street dates and they usually don't post anything unless they get the information from the studios. I just gave the distributor a call just to make sure it wasn't a mistake and they said it's accurate and pre booking ends tomorrow so it sounds like its coming.

Sounds good to me. Thanks for the heads up.

RockStrongo 10-17-06 12:59 PM

The Xmen series is one that would begin to push me into purchasing a BD player....X3 alone wont, but if they announce the others then it will begin to sway me.

joshd2012 10-17-06 01:01 PM

I still haven't see X-men 3... mostly because my hate for Brett Ratner. I won't be picking that title up, but the first two are must buys for me.

Kocheese99 10-17-06 01:01 PM

yea i was a little surprised that they aren't releasing all 3 maybe pull a Mission Impossible and make a boxset exclusive type thing.

matome 10-17-06 01:11 PM

Hmm, I was just about to cave and pick up the SD disc of X3 and then double dip, but I guess I won't have to now. :up:

Doughboy 10-17-06 01:22 PM

As much as I love HD-DVD and hate Sony, I have to agree with Josh. There's no way Blu-rry is going anywhere unless all the studios except for Sony decide to go neutral in the very near future. With the PS3 being a guaranteed success, you have to figure the software sales will at least be strong enough to compete with HD-DVD if not take the lead in the format war.

I think both formats will be around for a long time. But long-term, the odds favor Blu-rry, in spite of Sony's f-ups.

RockStrongo 10-17-06 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by joshd2012
I still haven't see X-men 3... mostly because my hate for Brett Ratner. I won't be picking that title up, but the first two are must buys for me.

I liked Red Dragon, but thats it from him...I bought the hd-dvd....X3 was ok, but not on par with the first 2....your not missing much.

joshd2012 10-17-06 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I liked Red Dragon, but thats it from him...I bought the hd-dvd....X3 was ok, but not on par with the first 2....your not missing much.

I felt that he destroyed Red Dragon. I'm a huge Edward Norton fan, and felt he could have done so much more if he was allowed to. I think he was just too held back by Rat. I was so excited to get another SOTL and Ed Norton, but ended up being ok. That is exactly how I hear people feel about X3.... it was just OK.

flashburn 10-17-06 02:13 PM

I completly hated X3 but I don't think it was all Ratner's fault. The majority of my issues are with the script itself. Hopefully X-Men and X2 will be following shortly.

Eric D. 10-17-06 02:19 PM

Agreed. Ratner was not to blame for X3, the problem was the atrocious script.

Zman 10-17-06 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Eric D.
Agreed. Ratner was not to blame for X3, the problem was the atrocious script.


I don't see how any of this goes with round 4, but ill chime in that I thought the X3 script was up there for worst script ever along with that crappy starwars crap noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

;p

ChrisHicks 10-17-06 02:27 PM

given all the back and forth fighting about HD-DVD and Blu-Ray can I move on and support everything else now? ;)

bboisvert 10-17-06 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
You mean, what DO they do? it's already being used on Tokyo Drift and will be used on Kong.

And "Accepted" also, if I'm remembering correctly.

digitalfreaknyc 10-17-06 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Doughboy
I think both formats will be around for a long time. But long-term, the odds favor Blu-rry, in spite of Sony's f-ups.

How do you figure?

bretski 10-17-06 03:51 PM

10 months ago, I promised myself that I would sit on the sidelines to see what would shake out in the format "war". I even re-affirmed this to my wife less than a week ago.

Then I read though this thread...whew...that was a long read. At the beginning of the year, I was in firmly in the BD camp (like many of you). My mind has changed.

Considering that I have an older Pioneer CRT display, I came to the conclusion that waiting would not necessarily be in my best interest. I'm not going to upgrade my display for a looooong time, and am worried that I'll be very limited in player choices that will be compatible. (Flawed logic, maybe?)

That, coupled with more BD studios leaning (via rumor or otherwise) towards format neutrality, spurred me to pull the trigger on a Tosh HD-A1. Heck, I spent more $$$ on my first DVD player back in early 1997...

Another vote for HD-DVD, via my wallet. Now, what movies to buy???????

digitalfreaknyc 10-17-06 03:54 PM

Welcome to the party, pal. Where did you get it?

You'll find more than enough threads here about which discs to buy. Bottom line is: buy the movies you like and you'll be happy. None look like crap. If you're looking for eye-candy, that's a whole different story. Sometimes those two things intersect but more often than not (for me, at least), they haven't.

digitalfreaknyc 10-17-06 04:21 PM

It was bound to happen sooner or later...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061017/...apan_sony_dc_4


TOKYO (Reuters) - Sony Corp. said on Tuesday it may change its full-year earnings forecast because of costly recalls of its batteries and a price cut for its PlayStation 3 video game console.

Sony also said it would recall 90,000 of its Vaio brand laptop computer batteries in Japan and China, adding its name to the list of PC vendors recalling a total of about 8 million Sony batteries, which the company has said can on rare occasions overheat and catch fire.

"We are in the process of determining whether a revision to our annual earnings outlook is necessary, taking into account various factors that could affect our group earnings," the electronics and entertainment conglomerate said on its Web site.

Besides the recalls and the PS3 price cut, factors to be considered include fluctuations in foreign exchange rates and the performance of its electronics and entertainment businesses, Sony said.

Shares in Sony ended down 1.8 percent at 4,790 yen, underperforming the Tokyo stock market's electrical machinery index which dipped 0.33 percent.

Sony said in July that it expected its group operating profit to come in at 130 billion yen ($1.1 billion) in the year to March, down 43 percent year-on-year. That compares with the consensus for a 160.9 billion yen profit in a poll of 20 analysts by Reuters Estimates.

Some analysts, however, take a more cautious view on Sony's earnings this year.

Morgan Stanley expects Sony to post an operating profit of 54.3 billion yen for the current business year.

For the following year starting April 2007, it expects Sony's operating profit to bounce up to 375.9 billion yen, driven by growing sales of game software for PS3 and robust revenues at its movie division.

Sony, which will launch the latest version of its blockbuster console on November 11 in Japan, said last month it would sell a version of PS3 with a 20-gigabyte hard disk drive for 49,980 yen ($420), down from the previously announced 62,790 yen.

It is not unusual for video game makers to incur substantial losses at the initial stage of a console launch. They often recoup the losses later from lucrative software sales.

Following Dell Inc.,Apple Computer Inc., Lenovo Group Ltd.,Toshiba Corp. and some other PC makers, Sony said it would recall 60,000 of its own batteries in Japan and 30,000 units in mainland China.

The number of batteries it will recall in other markets is not clear at the moment, it said.

Sony shares fell over 8 percent since Dell first announce the recall in August, while the electrical machinery subindex rose 6.4 percent.

The Nihon Keizai Shimbun business daily said on Tuesday the electronics maker would likely recall a total of 300,000 batteries, but Sony spokesman Kei Sakaguchi said that estimate was based on speculation.

Sony's recall troubles seemed to increase on Monday after Toshiba said it might seek compensation from Sony for possible damage to its brand image and sales from the battery recall.

Sony said in August that recalls by Dell and Apple would cost it between 20 billion yen and 30 billion yen, but now it is expected to face an even heavier financial burden with the additional recalls.

bretski 10-17-06 04:28 PM

Thanks. I bought it at Amazon, via Electronics Expo, $417 shipped.

I like eye-candy, but like you, prefer it to intersect with what I consider to be a good movie. I'm looking for 3 to get today so I can take advantage of the 10% deal.

On my short list right now:

Blazing Saddles
Willy Wonka
The Searchers
Batman Begins (haven't seen yet, believe it or not)

digitalfreaknyc 10-17-06 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by bretski
Thanks. I bought it at Amazon, via Electronics Expo, $417 shipped.

I like eye-candy, but like you, prefer it to intersect with what I consider to be a good movie. I'm looking for 3 to get today so I can take advantage of the 10% deal.

On my short list right now:

Blazing Saddles
Willy Wonka
The Searchers
Batman Begins (haven't seen yet, believe it or not)

I've heard good things about the first two and VERY good things about the last two. Go for it. Make sure they're there for you when you get your player.

bboisvert 10-17-06 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by bretski
On my short list right now:

Blazing Saddles
Willy Wonka
The Searchers
Batman Begins (haven't seen yet, believe it or not)

I own all 4 of those. They're fantastic -- you won't be disappointed with any of them.

digitalfreaknyc 10-17-06 04:48 PM

I can't remember if it was in this thread or not but someone asked why Fox was BD-only. This was just posted on AVS:


Also I believe their are several reasons for why Fox supports Blu-ray. One reasons is because they are on the board of directors for BDA while they were denied a seat on the Steering Committee for the DVD Forum.
<s>Everything I've heard about on the BD side of this format war has been about politics and promises (ie bullshit).</s>

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