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Old 10-05-06 | 05:52 PM
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Panasonic DMP-BD10 Now Shipping

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...ures/487723281

The second Blu-Ray player on the market.



The new Panasonic DMPBD10 Blu-ray Disc Player will forever alter the way you watch movies at home. Next-generation technology offers stunning, precise pictures and remarkably beautiful sound. Its intelligent interactive features promise a whole new world of entertainment. Go beyond the boundaries of your present home theater: Blu-ray will lead the way.
Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS, Multichannel Uncompressed PCM, MP3, WMA Audio Decoding
Selectable 1080p/1080i/720p Video Upconversion For DVDs Through HDMI Connection
Plays BD-R, BD-RE, BD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD, CD-R/RW, MP3, WMA, JPEG Photo
HDMI Connection, Component Video Output, S-Video Output, Composite Video Output
Coaxial And Optical Digital Audio Outputs
Stereo And 7.1-Channel Audio Outputs, Audio L/R Outputs
Advanced Graphical User Interface
14-Bit/296Mhz Video D/A Converter
24-Bit/192kHz Audio D/A Converter For Each Of Eight Channels
Multibrand Remote Control
High Definition Movie Playback With Up To 5 Times The Resolution Of DVD
Up to 1080p (1920 x 1080p) Output Through HDMI Digital Output
Advanced IP Conversion With P4HD (Pixel Precision Progressive Processing For HD) Processing For Optimal Video Performance
Virtual Battery Operation Prevents Noise From Entering Audio Circuitry
EZ SYNC Control Simplifies Operation With Compatible Panasonic Plasma TV
Advanced Scene Search
Subtitle Functions
Audio Re-Master
Closed Caption
BD-JAVA Interactive Capability
Search and Skip Functions
Slow Motion Play, Step Motion Play
Repeat Play
Parental Lock
Dimensions: 16.94" W x 2.25" H x 13" D
Weight: 9 Lbs.
Old 10-05-06 | 05:57 PM
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that is my favorite out of all the BD players announced, but I simply can't justify the $1299 price.
Old 10-05-06 | 06:36 PM
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That is a rather spiffy looking player. If I were a Blu-Ray person, I'd definitely buy the Panasonic over anything else. I really like their equipment.
Old 10-05-06 | 06:43 PM
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This is a really nice player and I look forward to reviews, but $1299 is pretty expensive.
Old 10-05-06 | 06:46 PM
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Eh, should've waited the extra two weeks to get this, but I'm an impulse buyer. I have no problems with the Sammy, so I don't mind too much, though it will eventually end up in the basement HT when I upgrade to another player.
Old 10-05-06 | 07:00 PM
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There's no question in my mind that the Panny will be the player to beat. If only it wasn't so expensive, I'd have one today. But there's just no way I could justify that price, so I'm still in wait mode for Blu-ray.

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Old 10-05-06 | 08:30 PM
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Panny has been hit or miss with their dvd player line though havn't they? I honestly don't know because almost every single dvd player I have bought has been a Sony or Toshiba.

I'd wait to see how much the Pioneer costs IMO. Also remember new Gen 2 players may possibly be here by next spring.
Old 10-05-06 | 08:33 PM
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Panny has been hit or miss with their dvd player line though havn't they? I honestly don't know because almost every single dvd player I have bought has been a Sony or Toshiba.
Actually, I've had a few Panasonic DVD players, and they've all been of very good quality.
Old 10-05-06 | 11:44 PM
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It may be expensive, but that's what the technology costs. This thing is even supposed to upconvert DVDs better than anything else. Definitely worth every penny.
Old 10-06-06 | 12:02 AM
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It may be expensive, but that's what the technology costs. This thing is even supposed to upconvert DVDs better than anything else. Definitely worth every penny.
And you've heard this where? Please find a review that claims it upconverts "better than anything else."

I wish people would stick to the facts...
Old 10-06-06 | 12:26 AM
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I'm still not sold on Blu-ray as a format, but the Panny does look like the best of the announced players.
Old 10-06-06 | 02:35 AM
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I don't think there's any doubt that Blu-ray is finally getting their act together, and the Panny IS going to be the best player of the 1G bunch, but it still isn't worth $1299 to me, no matter what ANYONE says.
Old 10-06-06 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
Definitely worth every penny.
I'm sorry, but it's not worth 30% more than my mortgage payment, especially when Toshiba was able to come out with something 800 bucks less.
Old 10-06-06 | 05:45 AM
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And you've heard this where? Please find a review that claims it upconverts "better than anything else."

I wish people would stick to the facts...
I find it hard to believe that this thing outperforms the high end Denons at upconverting considering the kind of expensive video processing in those units.
However, it does look like a solid player and honestly it can't be worse than the piece of junk Samsung currently out there. Nice to see CD support as well.

I'll be interested in the reviews to see how this $1300 player compares to the $500 A1.
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Originally Posted by valkyrie
And you've heard this where? Please find a review that claims it upconverts "better than anything else."

I wish people would stick to the facts...
No reviews yet, but the tech they are claiming is quite impressive:

P4HD (Pixel Precision Progressive Processing for HD)

-The DMP-BD10’s P4HD technology processes more than 15 billion pixels per second and applies the optimum processing to every pixel in the video data on the disc — resulting in exceptional resolution.

- The P4HD instantly determines whether a source is film or video and optimises the processing accordingly, ensuring natural images and lifelike movement through smooth motion

- 16-Level Motion Detection categorises the image motion of each pixel into one of 16 levels and applies the suitable progressive processing, for stunningly beautiful progressive images with minimum conversion errors

- P4HD generates each pixel more accurately according to information obtained from up to 60 surrounding pixels. Applying progressive processing to huge amounts of data, it delivers images of striking beauty

- Diagonal processing creates smooth, sharp diagonal lines by quickly detecting diagonals and applying correction to the pixels accordingly

The DMP-BD10 supports backward compatibility for a variety of optical discs including DVDs and CDs, and up-converts video playback from DVDs to 1080p by using HDMI.
Its hard to compare data sheets between companies, and reviews will tell the story (hense I said "supposed to" based on the spec sheet), but they put some awesome technology in this thing. But just as an example, the $1500 Denon uses algorithms from the immediate 9 surrounding pixels, this Panasonic uses up to 60 (which should give a more accurate converstion).

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Old 10-06-06 | 11:06 AM
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It may be expensive, but that's what the technology costs. This thing is even supposed to upconvert DVDs better than anything else. Definitely worth every penny.
At this point in the game, upconversion on any format is no longer a selling point for me.

I want HD content.... plain and simple

I don't want to watch Upconverted Content.... if I don't have to.
Old 10-06-06 | 11:10 AM
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At this point in the game, upconversion on any format is no longer a selling point for me.

I want HD content.... plain and simple

I don't want to watch Upconverted Content.... if I don't have to.
And it has to do it BETTER than the Toshiba, which is it's main competition, at almost a third of the price.
Old 10-06-06 | 11:12 AM
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I highly doubt the Panasonic chipset will outperform the Silicon Optix Realta or Reon for that matter when it comes to SD DVD deinterlacing and scaling. I closely A/B'd the Toshiba HD-A1 (which is excellent) to the Denon 2930CI. The 2930CI is definitely better.
Old 10-06-06 | 11:22 AM
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Actually, I've had a few Panasonic DVD players, and they've all been of very good quality.
This has been my experience also. My DVD players have been Panasonic and I've never had a single problem.

I especially like the position memory feature that the Panny DVD players have that allows me to load a disc and go straight to the place I last bookmarked (if the DVD allows position memory as most, but not all, do). I would guess this high end BD player will do this also; if the BD format allows it.

This BD player is still way, way, way too expensive for me but if money were no object I'd be interested in it. I look forward to the reviews.
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Does anyone know if the Panny will do the same downconversion/upconversion thing to output 1080p as the Sammy did? Also does anyone know if it will decode TrueHD or DTS-MA? I'm assuming that it has HDMI 1.2 also unless anyone can confirm differently. Are there any reviews yet or did anyone here order it?
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Bottom line: it's exactly the same as the Samsung.

No comment needed.
Old 10-06-06 | 01:31 PM
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Bottom line: it's exactly the same as the Samsung.

No comment needed.
To be fair that is just one review and not very detailed at that. I'm not basing my opinion of a player on that one review.

I will say that shipping an HD player with only a composite cable is pretty bush league. What is next, shipping players without power cables?

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Old 10-06-06 | 04:43 PM
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Bottom line: it's exactly the same as the Samsung.

No comment needed.
Not a problem for me, since the later Sammy builds are fine and it's pretty obvious the early issues were more with the software encoding. Of course it's only one review.
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
It may be expensive, but that's what the technology costs. This thing is even supposed to upconvert DVDs better than anything else. Definitely worth every penny.
I have no problem stating that it is a great player but I still dont see how people can say its worth every penny when you can get an HD-DVD player that puts out just as good of an image as this does but only costs half the price. Just because this is how much the technology costs at the moment does not mean its worth every penny.

Just have to completly disagree with this post, 1300 for a HD player is way too much cash in the market right now.

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I would love to have this player:
1. Pannasonic
2. Specs look great
3. HDMI
4. Upconverts my collection of DVDs (Very imporant to me)
5. BLUE Ray (I thought it was going to win the race, but I am not sure now)
-With 50 gig, the video could look better, but it should be able to hold a large amount of Extras. Might only need 3 disks to hold all of SMALLVILLE Single Season.
6. Looks good

Why I will not get it:
1. PRICE
2. Only want ONE format (I do not not want two Players, I can wait to see who is going to win the war)
-HDDVD will have my Superman/Batman and other movies...
3. Waiting to see whot Sony PS3 is like (HDMI, Video Qaulity, Upscale my current DVDs...)

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