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Old 09-27-06, 06:21 PM
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At least 50 Fox/MGM Blu-Ray discs by end of the year

According to this post at AVS from HTF owner Ron Epstein:

I am at a Fox Blu-Ray event here in Los Angeles.

As one of the biggest supporters of HD-DVD I can tell you
confidently that Blu-Ray is about to be launched in a HUGE
way and that a 50GB title is about to be released from Fox.

I can also tell you that at least Fox has absolutely no plans
at this time to cross over to HD-DVD. They do plan, however,
to have at least 50 Fox/MGM titles out by year's end on Blu-Ray.

I'll have more to tell you on my website in a few days.
Well, I'll be looking forward to these. Definitely cancelling my X-Men 3 SD preorder at least.
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Its a shame Fox is going to loose out on all the sales they could have by supporting both formats. I am sure I would buy several of them. Oh well, at least BD is finally starting to get some good news. Thats a lot of titles for such a short period of time, that is about 5 or more a week.
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They have only announced 13 so far that I can see. So far they have Nov.17th as the first day of releases. I wish they would release titles in October to see how they sell pre-PS3.

Are they going to dump 37 titles on the market in a month a and a half? If they do, I'd bet good money we'll see the same D-theater titles again.
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Are they going to dump 37 titles on the market in a month a and a half?
Yeah, as I said over on AVS, my b.s. detector is going into overdrive. When I hear a number like that, I suspect we're in for another broken promise.
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SO not going to happen. I'll be surprised if Fox has half that number on the shelves by X-mas.
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When you split it between Fox and MGM, though, 25 titles or so a piece doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility, especially considering how large MGM's library is and how much they like to shovel out.
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I would prefer that Fox take the time and release only 10 excellent quality discs this year than rush and put out 50 average discs.

Quality over Quanity

Its what the HD era was supposed to be all about. Let's see if Fox got the memo.
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Fox has so many big titles they could release but instead they're releasing moderately big titles. Bring on the big titles FOX!
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I'd say having X3 on BD exclusively is actually a point in favor of HD DVD.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I'd say having X3 on BD exclusively is actually a point in favor of HD DVD.
I liked the movie, but still...
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Fox has officially announced 13 titles. 11 more were on the IFA coming soon list. 4 more are MGM titles being released under Fox. So that is 28... they are already half way to 50. Not that I'm saying they will get 50 out, but it is possible.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I'd say having X3 on BD exclusively is actually a point in favor of HD DVD.
Have to completly agree with you there. I just rewatched this a few days ago for the 2nd time and I was really hoping that my initially not liking it was some fluke or had something to do with me having a bad day that day but unfortunatly that wasnt the case. Its not that its a terrible movie but it is just so much less than what Singer had given us with the first 2 that it just ends up paling in comparison. Its just a forgettable movie compared to two of the best super hero movies ever made. Either X3 is one SD DVD that I will not be upset with not getting.

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I'd go so far as to say it was indeed a terrible movie.
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Someone over at AVS brings up a good point (sounds right to me anyway). The comment may have been referring to the end of the FISCAL year, which would take Fox through June 07. That makes 50 sound much more realistic.
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Yes - I'll believe that when I see it.

My other spidey-senses are tingling too -

If they rush 50 titles in that short a space of time - Can they show the CARE and ATTENTION to QUALITY that the HD DVD release have DEFINED as the best in class to date??

My guess is they won't be HD DVD quality...

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Originally Posted by HiFiLux
My guess is they won't be HD DVD quality...
Well, a lot (if not all) of the titles will have DTS MA, so they will likely be be better than average HD DVD quality.
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meh. I'd rather have Universal than Fox/MGM at this point anyway.
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Originally Posted by HiFiLux
Yes - I'll believe that cr*p when I see it.

My other spidey-senses are tingling too - if they rush 50 titles in that short a space of time, HOW can they show the CARE and ATTENTION to QUALITY that the HD DVD release have DEFINED as the best in class to date??

My guess is they won't be HD DVD quality...
Okay, this is a classic example of a thread crap that we don't want to see here (or anywhere in the DVD Talk Forums for that matter).

Imagine if this were a thread about HD DVD, that they were gonna release 100 new titles by the end of this year. And someone came in and wrote: "Even if they released 100 titles, it's still gonna be in the crappy HD DVD format. I'm gonna pass. " Do you think that'd be acceptable?


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The sooner Fox releases movies, the sooner they can double-dip just a few months later. They're notorious for doing it with SD DVD, so do you think they'll continue the trend for Blu-Ray?
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Okay, this is a classic example of a thread crap that we don't want to see here (or anywhere in the DVD Talk Forums for that matter).

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Apologies, Namja.

I've edited the "c**p" out. But I do wonder about the encoding and authoring quality of so many titles in such a short time.

I know they need to play catchup, but the PQ is going to be watched very closely by all, I think.

And not just for the first 5 that come along.
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Again, I've said it before but they've already shown that they're not going to include all the extras from their SD DVD's. They announced Speed which I LOVE. I would scoop it up in a heartbeat on HD DVD if it had a great transfer and all the extras from the 2 disc SD DVD. If it were released on BD like that, the hurt would start.

But since none of these things are happening, the hurt ain't startin' and thus far, they've shown no signs of them even THINKING about having that hurt start. Sony...Lion's Gate...now Disney. All the BD-only companies thus far have shown fair to ok releases on average and I'm wondering why Fox would be any different? At this point, I'm daring BD to step up to the plate and actually give some competition.

Only time will tell...
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Originally Posted by namja
Okay, this is a classic example of a thread crap that we don't want to see here (or anywhere in the DVD Talk Forums for that matter).

Imagine if this were a thread about HD DVD, that they were gonna release 100 new titles by the end of this year. And someone came in and wrote: "Even if they released 100 titles, it's still gonna be in the crappy HD DVD format. I'm gonna pass. " Do you think that'd be acceptable?
With all due respect, that isn't at all what he said, namja. That post wasn't a thread crap. It's skepticism of an unrealistic PR claim. There's a difference.

If Fox had claimed they were also going to crank out 50 titles in a month on the HD DVD side, I'd expect people here to be equally skeptical that it could really happen, and that if it did happen what quality the quickly churned-out releases would be.
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With all due respect, that isn't at all what he said, namja. That post wasn't a thread crap. It's skepticism of an unrealistic PR claim. There's a difference.

If Fox had claimed they were also going to crank out 50 titles in a month on the HD DVD side, I'd expect people here to be equally skeptical that it could really happen, and that if it did happen what quality the quickly churned-out releases would be.
Being skeptical? Fine.
Calling it crap (which was later edited out; thanks!)? Not fine.

If people said "crap"py things about MS's news about the $200 HD DVD add on, then that'd get the same treatment.

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Okay, this is a classic example of a thread crap that we don't want to see here (or anywhere in the DVD Talk Forums for that matter).
Oh, man... just when I think I understand the rules, something like this happens.


How, exactly, was that post a thread crap? And how did it violate the rules either new or old?

You are allowed to--and we encourage you to--make posts that constitute constructive criticism. Blatant bashing of a format or bashing of the studios/manufacturers is strictly forbidden.

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Note that even the poster is confused, thinking that you objected to his use of the word 'crap'.

EDIT: Wait a minute. That *was* your objection? Now I'm even more confused.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
With all due respect, that isn't at all what he said, namja. That post wasn't a thread crap. It's skepticism of an unrealistic PR claim. There's a difference.

If Fox had claimed they were also going to crank out 50 titles in a month on the HD DVD side, I'd expect people here to be equally skeptical that it could really happen, and that if it did happen what quality the quickly churned-out releases would be.
No. If Fox claimed they were cranking out 50 titles for HD DVD in a month, the thread would be stickied and there would be 100+ pages regarding how it was death for Blu-Ray.

At least, that is what would happen on this forum.
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