HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray vs. everything else free-for-all: Round two
09-07-06 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bus
dt: That chart is not 100% correct.
I do have a question though: Doesn't Weinstein Company own Dimension?
I do have a question though: Doesn't Weinstein Company own Dimension?
Among the corrections I would note:
1) The list of Audio formats makes no distinction as to what is mandatory in the players of each format, vs "optional". HD DVD players are required to have DD, DTS, DD+, TruHD decoders (DTS-HD is optional). Blurya is required to have only DD an DTS. As a result, far more HD DVD releases have the advanced audio codec soundtracks, since studios know all players will support them.
2) Obviously 25 Gigs Single Layer is what Bluray is stuck at now, since they have been having massive problems getting reliable and efficient proiduction of dual layer.
3) The Bluray hybrid discs with DVD and Bluray layers is a complete myth. It was talked about in the early days, but TDK or JVC was unable to get the thing to work and it was abandoned. It is in the spec as just a fantasy right now.
09-07-06 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HiFiLux
2) Obviously 25 Gigs Single Layer is what Bluray is stuck at now, since they have been having massive problems getting reliable and efficient proiduction of dual layer.
09-07-06 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HiFiLux
The Bluray hybrid discs with DVD and Bluray layers is a complete myth. It was talked about in the early days, but TDK or JVC was unable to get the thing to work and it was abandoned. It is in the spec as just a fantasy right now.
09-07-06 | 02:52 PM
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Btw...here's a bit of news. I had speculated this a while back and now it's looking to be true.
You know that diode shortage that's affecting the BD community?
Yeah.
Guess who bought all those up a while back?
You know that diode shortage that's affecting the BD community?
Yeah.
Guess who bought all those up a while back?
09-07-06 | 03:00 PM
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Blu-Ray equals Death Ray
September 7, 2006
Sony's Playstation 3 will not be released for the all-important Christmas season in Europe, the UK, Russia, and Austral-Asia because of production shortages of the Blu-ray laser diodes. You can hear the sounds of glee coming out of Redmond already. Sony can only make half as many of the 7kg PS3 units as it wanted and these are going to Japan and, by ship, to the USA, both regions which use the NTSC video standard and not the PAL standard used elsewhere.
It's not the first time Sony has delayed the PlayStation 3 launch, again due to Blu-ray problems. But the stakes this time are immeasurably higher. Microsoft already has its Xbox 360 out and the competing Toshiba-led HD-DVD high-definition optical disc product is going to have a relatively clear run in the European market. A Nintendo Wii console will be a launched later this year giving PS3 added market competition.
Toshiba aims to launch its first HD-DVD players in Europe on November 15, with a second player to be released in December. Tosh officials have claimed that more than 10,000 units will be shipped to Europe for the November launch.
Coming after the Dell and Apple Lithium-Iron Sony battery recalls the company's reputation is taking a beating and Sir Howard Stringer could be forgiven for polishing up his CV.
Sony promises PS3 availability for the rest of the world outside Japan and the USA for March. It will have to be outstandingly better at both graphics and games performance to overcome this sales problem. There is now a strong chance, a very strong chance, that HD-DVD will wipe out Blu-ray as a high-definition format and that Sony will become an also-ran Japanese electronics company.
http://www.techworld.com/storage/blo...=3&entryid=249
http://www.newratings.com/analyst_ne...e_1363083.html
September 7, 2006
Sony's Playstation 3 will not be released for the all-important Christmas season in Europe, the UK, Russia, and Austral-Asia because of production shortages of the Blu-ray laser diodes. You can hear the sounds of glee coming out of Redmond already. Sony can only make half as many of the 7kg PS3 units as it wanted and these are going to Japan and, by ship, to the USA, both regions which use the NTSC video standard and not the PAL standard used elsewhere.
It's not the first time Sony has delayed the PlayStation 3 launch, again due to Blu-ray problems. But the stakes this time are immeasurably higher. Microsoft already has its Xbox 360 out and the competing Toshiba-led HD-DVD high-definition optical disc product is going to have a relatively clear run in the European market. A Nintendo Wii console will be a launched later this year giving PS3 added market competition.
Toshiba aims to launch its first HD-DVD players in Europe on November 15, with a second player to be released in December. Tosh officials have claimed that more than 10,000 units will be shipped to Europe for the November launch.
Coming after the Dell and Apple Lithium-Iron Sony battery recalls the company's reputation is taking a beating and Sir Howard Stringer could be forgiven for polishing up his CV.
Sony promises PS3 availability for the rest of the world outside Japan and the USA for March. It will have to be outstandingly better at both graphics and games performance to overcome this sales problem. There is now a strong chance, a very strong chance, that HD-DVD will wipe out Blu-ray as a high-definition format and that Sony will become an also-ran Japanese electronics company.
http://www.techworld.com/storage/blo...=3&entryid=249
Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:29:50 AM ET
Dow Jones Newswires
1209 GMT [Dow Jones] The delayed launch of Sony's (SNE) Playstation 3 could have a negative impact on Singulus (SNG.XE), says analyst. Playstation runs on the Blu-Ray DVD standard, one of Singulus's key business ares with the potential to be highly profitable, he says. But the delay could cause more customers to buy Microsoft's (MSFT) X-Box gamestation instead, which runs on the HD-DVD standard. If Blu-Ray as a result isn't able to snag a significant share of the market from HD-DVD due to the Playstation delay, "this would be a real setback for Singulus," he says. "I'm puzzled that the market has barely reacted to the news," he says, pointing to Singulus shares which trade -0.3% at EUR9.95. (MOD/HAD)
Dow Jones Newswires
1209 GMT [Dow Jones] The delayed launch of Sony's (SNE) Playstation 3 could have a negative impact on Singulus (SNG.XE), says analyst. Playstation runs on the Blu-Ray DVD standard, one of Singulus's key business ares with the potential to be highly profitable, he says. But the delay could cause more customers to buy Microsoft's (MSFT) X-Box gamestation instead, which runs on the HD-DVD standard. If Blu-Ray as a result isn't able to snag a significant share of the market from HD-DVD due to the Playstation delay, "this would be a real setback for Singulus," he says. "I'm puzzled that the market has barely reacted to the news," he says, pointing to Singulus shares which trade -0.3% at EUR9.95. (MOD/HAD)
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09-07-06 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
But the delay could cause more customers to buy Microsoft's (MSFT) X-Box gamestation instead, which runs on the HD-DVD standard.
09-07-06 | 03:39 PM
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What the fuck is a gamestation?
09-07-06 | 03:42 PM
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Is it the same thing as an Okama Gamesphere?
09-07-06 | 04:03 PM
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No, they couldn't, because it's not the BDA who is using the name. Maybe they could sue Best Buy, but I don't think they'd get very far, nor would they want to, since Best Buy could just decide that HD DVD isn't worth carrying anymore.
09-07-06 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
In fairness, though, that street runs both ways; HD DVD would've been a much, much less attractive format if not for the spectre of Blu-ray.
09-07-06 | 04:38 PM
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At the risk of "crying wolf" again...it looks like something "big" may be happening again tonight at midnight.
Which could have something to do with this...
Joystiq is hyping this little nugget on their website currently:
"We just got handed a scoop for some important news with one of the next-generation consoles. We can't talk about any specifics yet, but you have our word that this announcement is something worth waiting for."
The "news" is to be posted at 12:01AM tonight. Given the influence of both consoles on in the format war, I was wondering if anyone was willing to leak the leak? Or at least throw a hint?
"We just got handed a scoop for some important news with one of the next-generation consoles. We can't talk about any specifics yet, but you have our word that this announcement is something worth waiting for."
The "news" is to be posted at 12:01AM tonight. Given the influence of both consoles on in the format war, I was wondering if anyone was willing to leak the leak? Or at least throw a hint?
Corporate VP Holmdahl says the 360 will be reduced yearly as the price war hots[sic] up even before launch
Having lost almost $4 billion on launching the Xbox, Microsoft aims to break even within two years with the Xbox 360. And in another aggressive move, the company is stating it is committed to reducing the price of its new machine on a yearly basis. Speaking to Reuters, Todd Holmdahl, corporate vice president of the Xbox product group stated: "We will wind up cost-reducing the product every year," and given the use of licensing technology rather than buying off the shelf components, Microsoft should easily be in a position to do so.
Having lost almost $4 billion on launching the Xbox, Microsoft aims to break even within two years with the Xbox 360. And in another aggressive move, the company is stating it is committed to reducing the price of its new machine on a yearly basis. Speaking to Reuters, Todd Holmdahl, corporate vice president of the Xbox product group stated: "We will wind up cost-reducing the product every year," and given the use of licensing technology rather than buying off the shelf components, Microsoft should easily be in a position to do so.
09-07-06 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
At the risk of "crying wolf" again...it looks like something "big" may be happening again tonight at midnight.
Which could have something to do with this...
Which could have something to do with this...
09-07-06 | 04:58 PM
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Interesting. Few thoughts on various posts.
I had a feeling MS was stockpiling diodes away.
The 80% BD50 yield number, with only three announced titles by November? Put my vote on the bullshit button.
I had a feeling MS was stockpiling diodes away.
The 80% BD50 yield number, with only three announced titles by November? Put my vote on the bullshit button.
09-08-06 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bus
It's probably MS. It's not Sony's style to contact Joystiq or Kotaku.
err...the announcement was that the Wii chip production is well underway say Nintendo and IBM.
Joystiq has posted on their website an apology for generating excitement to heh.