potentially not so good? such as?

Such as the engineer's assertion that current players may not be able to handle TL45 media, even if it becomes an official part of the spec.

as per avs...

Amir said at least a month ago that the NEC drive in the Toshiba will read TL discs. He got that information directly from NEC engineers. Even the NEC brochure shows TL45 http://www.de.nec.de/brochure/hd_dvd_e.pdf

I figured that console gamers were younger in age.

Some of those numbers make sense on that site and some dont though. I wonder if they include a grandma who plays computer solitaire in their research. My girlfriend plays it and doesnt play ANY other video games on the computer or console.

Also, I wonder if they include parent's who buy their kids video games as game players since its based on sales data.

This association is dedicated to pushing the video game companies agenda, so its in their benefit to make it look like the whole country plays video games.

That article affirms what i always said. Triple Layer HD is not in the spec and being added in. Even then, i doubt the A1 will play it properly. The engineer states its a hardware limitation. I dont trust much of what amir says anymore. hes Captain FUD.

The article certainly undermines what Amir's been saying for some time now. As to the NEC PDF, that's just marketing copy. I'll take an engineers word over advertising any day of the week. Or does anyone on here really believe the drive plays 90Gb HD DVDs that haven't even been created yet?

Well, to be fair, he says that its his opinion. He very well may be right, but he also says he doesnt know if current drives will be able to read them.

That said, I dont care if I have to upgrade my player. TL45 discs are a possibility and we very well may see them before the end of next year.

Hell, we might see them before regular production of BD50 discs.

Amir is an insider with very good information and he has been reliable, but its understandable that a Sony fanboy wouldnt want to believe anything from a MS svp who basically heads up the hd-dvd department.

You do realise BD100 (and 200 for that matter) are as close to commercial viability as HD DVD45? There's been no interoperability testing, no manufacturability testing, no spec, just a lab prototype. It seems little more than a concept at the moment. And judging by Alex's response to certain of the engineers comments on PRML it's questionable how much we should invest in any of what he said: non-compatability of current hardware, TL next summer, all of it.

On the hardware side, Toshiba's HD-A1 is still selling well, by HD/BR standards. It has been consistently selling, on average in the Top 500 of electronics, a broad Amazon category that includes other DVD players, cameras, memory cards, GPS navigation units, phones, iPods, and any number of other items.

If we were to look only at DVD players, then the landscape changes a bit. If we were to look at today's Top 100 Electronics list, you'd see DVD makes up a small fraction of that: there's only 3 DVD players. That's likely to put the HD-A1 on a consistent Top 10 to 20 list for DVD players sold on Amazon; a list that would include the XA1 and Samsung's BR player if expanded to the top 50 or 100.

On the software side, Blu-Ray's recent best selling title Silent Hill dropped off the charts a few days after release, while still maintaining it's $16.99 price (it is now higher). Other new releases failed to create any big jump in sales.

HD-DVDs top sellers were mixed between a temporary price-drop (Ray), a strong catalog release (The Searchers), and day-and-date pre-orders (Mission Impossible).

Thanks, Bus! Great job!

Phillips announces stand alone Blu-Ray player with 1080p and all the usual goodies. Also Triple PC writer (writes Blu-Ray, DVD and CD). Info here:

http://www.techdigest.tv/2006/08/ifa_2006_philip_2.html

My point is that TL45 is possible for the future (Amir confirms this). Hardcore BD supports act like the limitation of HD-DVD being 30gb is unchangeable. When in fact, TL45 is an option and is possibly being explored soon.

Makes me wonder if they're going through with TL45 so that they'll be ready should Fox/Disney/other want to switch over.

Here's why the PS3 won't be considered a "real" BD player.

Check out the interface:

Honestly, its not a big deal to me. I guess some studios want it, but seriously when will it actually be fully utilized? Probably not for another year or 2.

Right now, if there is not enough space on a 30, then just make it a multiple disc set with the HD docs and special features on the second disc (like MI3).

I dont see any huge apps being added in the near future that need to be on the main feature disc that would exceed 30gb.

Yeah, I saw that yesterday. That sucks.

So, does anyone know if it can be controlled by a harmony remote? I have my 360 controlled by it and I watch the few PAL discs that I have on it. It works ok, but isnt as good quality as the A1 when playing sd dvds.

This is supposed to be the big picture that BD actually works on PS3. All I see are a TV and some hands on a controller. I see no PS3.

This reminds me of just how awful my PS2 was to watch movies on.

Here's the original japanese articles about Blu-Ray on PS3 all the other sites are quoting:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...59151,0,0.html

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/lifestyle...9/news059.html

The second link has a pic that shows the PS3 next to the TV.

That's cute but...doesn't mean that the picture is originating from it. We've seen this trick before.

Sorry. I don't trust SHIT about Sony until I see it for myself.

Anything is possible, it's just a question of how likely it is. Right now we have a seemingly similar situation between HD DVD45 and BD100/200. Frankly I doubt we'll ever see either used for pre-recorded discs.

That statement I agree with. BUT, I bet we will see TL45 for storage and so on some time next year. According to Amir, he believes that production of the TL45 discs will be easier than BD50.

IF HD-DVD needs to use TL45, then they will make the advances to do so, but I just dont think its gonna be necessary (due to the reasons I mentioned earlier).

Probably includes Solitaire and Freecell players.

just a FYI

I noticed in the latest Widescreen Review the 'Experience Blu' two page ad now has pics of 'Superman Returns' and 'Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire'

[HD-DVD Fanatic]THE SKY IS FALLING!!![/HD-DVD Fanatic]