http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3641

Couldn't they have waited a little longer for this technology. If they can get a player that works with this I'm all over it.

That would be great for TV shows, but wouldn't it be a little overkill for movies?
Why pay $120 for a disc your only going to use a small portion of?

The drive is only $15,000 - wow and people are bitching about $500 - I just don't think this would have gone over very well.

The cost could have easily come down had everyone worked on this and not gone on their separate ways. This would have brought picture quality and sound quality that would be unsurpassed.

If they waited a little longer and developed this technology it could easily reach a more acceptable price range.

At the moment these are being marketed solely for data storage on a mass scale, like hospitals who have to store full x-ray scans and such.

*yawn*

gee...we haven't seen THOSE in this forum before.

The thing is, while HD and BR fuck around and keep their heads up their asses with this silly little format war, these guys can just quietly go about their business and before you know it, they will have left both hd and br in the dust. I wouldn’t count them out just yet. Remember, a lot of people (majority) were saying HD was pretty much dead in the water to BR, and now look what is happening. I mean sure, the price is going to keep in the shadows for a while, but if it shows to be a viable option, you never know.

I think the HD/BD situation showed pretty clearly that these camps were never going to work together, regardless of the tech involved.

Sony needs the PS3 to come out this year, not four or five years from now or whenever this thing becomes affordable. Given the cyclical nature of the video games industry, they might not be in such a good position to push a format next time around.

Unless there's 2K or 4K display devices being made, I don't see this entering the area of movies.

Now... for data backups...

Unless they market it to studios, it won't be an option. And considering all the studios are spending mucho dineros on HD, BD, or both, I doubt they would support another format anytime soon.

They also haven't even been making (very many) masters for 4k. So this isn't even a point of interest.

Well if both Sony and Toshiba and had helped these guys work out the kinks instead of working on their own shit at the time then maybe this could have been reality by now. All I'm saying is that it would have been better had they worked on this type of technology and everyone would be happier campers. Just imagine the possibilites of this.

It IS a reality now, just not for movies. And honestly, it seems like no matter what, Sony was determined to bring their own technology to the table.

That's why I'm hoping Blu-Ray fails miserably because hopefully this time they will learn their lesson. Because it seems their failure with Beta obviously didn't change their mindset at all.

Beta, minidisc, UMD, Blu-ray...somehow I don't think Sony is getting the message.

I guess the power of the almighty dollar transcends all aspects of logic.

The power of the short term dollar is what transcends logic for Sony. A great example is the lack of vibration on the PS3. Nintendo was the first company to use vibration, using technology developed by a company called Immersion. Nintendo bought a ton of Immersion stock when they put the rumble pack on the N64. Then, Sony copied the design with their DualShock controllers. When the current generation rolled around, Sony and Microsoft used the exact same technology illegally. They didn't pay to use the technology, they just used it. Immersion sued both of them. Microsoft decided to play ball (especially because they don't consider Nintendo a main competitor), and bought stock in Immersion. This is why the 360 controllers have vibration.

Sony, on the other hand, wanted to play hardball. They didn't want to pay money to Nintendo, who is their biggest competitor in Japan. So they appealed the lawsuit, and lost--TWICE. Now Sony unveils the PS3, and, what's this? No vibration! Instead, we get, what's this? Tilt sensors! Gee, haven't seen motion sensing in an upcoming console before...

Immersion just recently made a big to do about how they've made an even smaller vibration motor that could easily fit into the current design of the PS3 controller without affecting the tilt sensors. All Sony has to do is buy the license for it. But, of course, now they'd be giving money to Microsoft AND Nintendo, and there's no way they'll do that. And while rumble doesn't seem like a big deal, a lot of people are mad that the PS3 won't have it.

I heard about that but didn't know the facts about it. That is ridiculous. I really hope Sony loses during this console cycle.

Amazingly, the latest issue of PSM magazine (an "independent" or non-official Playstation magazine) was very critical of the PS3. They were annoyed at Sony's stubborn nature leading to no rumble and a quote by Ken Kutaragi where he said that the PS3 will most likely have to be updated like a computer to play later games.

I too was surprised by their candor in an officially sanctioned source.

Honestly, if I were a Sony fan, I'd be begging Sony to fire Ken Kutaragi. He is almost entirely responsible for all these controversial quotes that people are using as ammunition against Sony and the PS3. He has the exact arrogance that people are accusing Sony as a whole of having. He is my most hated person in the whole video game industry and a large part of why I've been soured on the PS3.