HD DVD imports
07-27-06 | 02:12 PM
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My understanding is that besides the US, the other two big import markets are Japan and Europe (for non-R1 DVDs), and to a lesser extent Korea/Australia/etc. Blu-Ray is (smartly?) making US/Japan the same region. HD-DVD, if it does region codes* should make US and Europe the same region at least.
* I can see how region codes are a necessity for theatrical releases, but I do wish all catalogue titles are released region-free. To have four or five language tracks (or six subtitle tracks) can only help sales.
* I can see how region codes are a necessity for theatrical releases, but I do wish all catalogue titles are released region-free. To have four or five language tracks (or six subtitle tracks) can only help sales.
07-27-06 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
The mods may want to change the title of this thread from "HD DVD imports of BD-only titles playable in the US" to "HD DVD imports of BD-only titles might be playable in the US"
In two of Freaks posts he quotes industry people as saying it has not been decided whether or not to use region coding, and in the interview it sounds like region coding is very much a possibility. So the thread title as currently written is a bit misleading.
This would be huge if they decided to go without the region coding, but I wonder how many people besides folks like us that frequent places like DVDTalk and AVS will take advantage of it.
I'm sure both formats will have a region free player eventually, but I don't think one is currently on the horizon for either side.
In two of Freaks posts he quotes industry people as saying it has not been decided whether or not to use region coding, and in the interview it sounds like region coding is very much a possibility. So the thread title as currently written is a bit misleading.
This would be huge if they decided to go without the region coding, but I wonder how many people besides folks like us that frequent places like DVDTalk and AVS will take advantage of it.
I'm sure both formats will have a region free player eventually, but I don't think one is currently on the horizon for either side.
Also, Equilibrium is a miramax title (so far only supports BD) here in the US and yet the Japanese HD-DVD version is region free. So, theres another angle.
07-27-06 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Actually, your wrong too...if there is region coding (which doesnt seem to be the case at this point) and someone imports a euro player, then they would be playable in the US. So, he can leave the title alone.
Also, Equilibrium is a miramax title (so far only supports BD) here in the US and yet the Japanese HD-DVD version is region free. So, theres another angle.
Also, Equilibrium is a miramax title (so far only supports BD) here in the US and yet the Japanese HD-DVD version is region free. So, theres another angle.
But then you would not be able to play U.S. HD DVDs. You would be stuck buying all of your movies as imports and, I believe, that is a bit more expensive.
You are right, there is no region coding at this point, but then there is also nothing to import at this point either. By the time there is, there might be region coding, thus the word MIGHT in the title thread.
07-27-06 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bus
My understanding is that besides the US, the other two big import markets are Japan and Europe (for non-R1 DVDs), and to a lesser extent Korea/Australia/etc. Blu-Ray is (smartly?) making US/Japan the same region. HD-DVD, if it does region codes* should make US and Europe the same region at least.
* I can see how region codes are a necessity for theatrical releases, but I do wish all catalogue titles are released region-free. To have four or five language tracks (or six subtitle tracks) can only help sales.
* I can see how region codes are a necessity for theatrical releases, but I do wish all catalogue titles are released region-free. To have four or five language tracks (or six subtitle tracks) can only help sales.
Won't making the U.S. and Europe the same region run into problems with the PAL format? I believe that is why Sony made Japan and Europe separate for BD.
07-27-06 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
But then you would not be able to play U.S. HD DVDs. You would be stuck buying all of your movies as imports and, I believe, that is a bit more expensive.
You are right, there is no region coding at this point, but then there is also nothing to import at this point either. By the time there is, there might be region coding, thus the word MIGHT in the title thread.
)Also, according to Amir with MS, the current batch of discs do not have region coding. So, even if future discs have region coding, the current batch will still play on all players.
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07-27-06 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
Won't making the U.S. and Europe the same region run into problems with the PAL format? I believe that is why Sony made Japan and Europe separate for BD.
Frames per second wont be an issue either according to Amir...and he knows his stuff....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8032143
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07-27-06 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
My point being that if someone wants imports, they can buy a euro player to sit right next to their US player...so he doesnt need to change the title. I think the more global issue is that there WILL be some HD-DVD's of BD US-only titles.
07-27-06 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Maybe for special features only....PAL is not an issue with HD material.
Frames per second wont be an issue either according to Amir...and he knows his stuff....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8032143
Frames per second wont be an issue either according to Amir...and he knows his stuff....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8032143
07-27-06 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
But that is not the basis of this thread. Anyone can do what your saying with any format or game system. The point of this thread is the potential lack of region coding for HD-DVD, and at this current time nothing has been decided yet as to if it will or won't.
Besides, right now, there is enough evidence that these initial titles WILL be playable in the US in our current players based on no region coding. So, again, it doesnt need to be changed.
Personally, I think the point of the thread is that some BD us-only titles will be available overseas and capable of being imported to the US (whether future region coding happens or not).
07-27-06 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bcolon
Ok. I'll take your word on that, but who is Amir? I belong to AVS, but usually only read the projector forum.
07-27-06 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Im only defending the title....it doesnt need to be changed since it doesnt reference a specific US player.
Besides, right now, there is enough evidence that these initial titles WILL be playable in the US in our current players based on no region coding. So, again, it doesnt need to be changed.
Personally, I think the point of the thread is that some BD us-only titles will be available overseas and capable of being imported to the US (whether future region coding happens or not).
Besides, right now, there is enough evidence that these initial titles WILL be playable in the US in our current players based on no region coding. So, again, it doesnt need to be changed.
Personally, I think the point of the thread is that some BD us-only titles will be available overseas and capable of being imported to the US (whether future region coding happens or not).
Talk about grasping at straws. Changing the title of this thread doesn't change the fact that I'll be able to watch Terminator 2 on something OTHER than BD
07-27-06 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Enh. The BD people are just pissed because there's a way to get around the "studio angle."
Talk about grasping at straws. Changing the title of this thread doesn't change the fact that I'll be able to watch Terminator 2 on something OTHER than BD
Talk about grasping at straws. Changing the title of this thread doesn't change the fact that I'll be able to watch Terminator 2 on something OTHER than BD
I wonder though, will there be any Universal titles that could be distributed overseas to BD or does Universal distribute all of their titles worldwide??
I havent heard any news of this, but BD supporters are few right now or just silent.
07-27-06 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Exactly...its funny to watch them squirm.
I wonder though, will there be any Universal titles that could be distributed overseas to BD or does Universal distribute all of their titles worldwide??
I havent heard any news of this, but BD supporters are few right now or just silent.
I wonder though, will there be any Universal titles that could be distributed overseas to BD or does Universal distribute all of their titles worldwide??
I havent heard any news of this, but BD supporters are few right now or just silent.
If they're still using MPEG2 or if they're still using a smaller disc size, it's going to most likely be inferior.
Bcolon should be able to understand that. That POSSIBILITY. BD people live for what possibly could be. One day. Maybe. Possibly.
07-27-06 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Does it really matter?
If they're still using MPEG2 or if they're still using a smaller disc size, it's going to most likely be inferior.
Bcolon should be able to understand that. That POSSIBILITY. BD people live for what possibly could be. One day. Maybe. Possibly.
If they're still using MPEG2 or if they're still using a smaller disc size, it's going to most likely be inferior.
Bcolon should be able to understand that. That POSSIBILITY. BD people live for what possibly could be. One day. Maybe. Possibly.
07-27-06 | 04:30 PM
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Even if the HD DVD forum decides to implement region coding in the future, you can always just roll back your player's firmware to an earlier version (like any of the current ones) that doesn't enforce it.
08-07-06 | 11:42 AM
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Elephant Man
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Rambo
Rambo 2
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Basic Instinct
Totall Recall
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The Fog (réalisé par John Carpenter)
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From a French site.
But HD DVD is supposed to break around october so maybe these are just dates for France? We should know more next month.
King Kong (1976)
Rambo
Rambo 2
Rambo 3
Basic Instinct
Totall Recall
Stargate Director's cut
The Fog (réalisé par John Carpenter)
La Haine
november 20 2006
From a French site.
But HD DVD is supposed to break around october so maybe these are just dates for France? We should know more next month.
08-07-06 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mgoblue7
This could be very good news, if they do not enforce region coding. I will be following this closely.
Even if they eventually do go forward, the discs themselves won't be encoded so they will theoretically always work.
08-07-06 | 02:14 PM
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Enough Talk!!!!
I want HD-DVDS!!!!
I want HD-DVDS!!!!
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Stargate 
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You gotta be fucking kidding me. DeLaurentis Kong? 
09-02-06 | 05:25 PM
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The Elephant Man
King Kong (Jeff Bridges)
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La Haine
Early 2007
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Mullholland Drive
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