digitalfreaknyc

This should be an interesting test subject IMHO for BD.

The movie itself is 144 min (or 152, depending on which version they use).

It will be in MPEG2. It will most likely be single layered.

How many audio options will be included?

Also, there's a shitload of extras from that 3 disc DVD set. Will those all be ported over? Will there be enough room for all of it on one BD disc or will this be a bare-bones "Superbit" BHD?

It seems like a lot and I will be very interested to see if BD pulls it off.

Giles

my fingers are crossed that it sounds and looks great. Seeing how and what they will include as extras will indeed be interesting to note. In typical Sony form, I bet you anything it will be the 144 min. version.

hmurchison

I think they should have delayed this and delivered it on a DL disc. The 3 disc set content has to be on the Blu-Ray disc or it's not not as cool as it could be. I'll wait on BHD if it doesn't have everything the expanded set has.

Rusty James

According to the specs at the link below, neither BHD nor Memento Blu-rays are going to contain all the extras of the SD versions.

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releas...t-blu-ray.html

bboisvert

That sucks. There's really no excuse to be putting out initial releases that are subpar in any respect like that.

digitalfreaknyc

BHD was rumored to be the first DL title with lossless audio.

Good luck.

Kant

Why Sony?! This is not the way to do it if you want to launch and new format and have people trust your product!
"Ok so I buy a new HD version of a film, but I don't get evrything the DVD has?!"
I realise that this is so Sony can rerelease again sometime, but still this sends the wrong message!

awmurray

While I don't doubt that Sony may already be planning double dips (by releasing R vs. Unrated versions), I think this issue is deeper than that.

I don't think they can actually make it all fit onto their 25GB discs using MPEG 2 compression. And I believe the rumors/reports that they can't make DL 50GB discs with any sort of reliability. Just like Microsoft said in the report explaining why MS chose HD DVD. One of the reasons was that MS believed BR wouldn't be able to make good on all the promises of extra capacity due to manufacturing issues. While I don't believe everything I read or hear, everything they've said for months about BR sure looks to be true.

EDIT: Oh, and I have to wonder, since Sony loves to tout the fact that they have huge CE backing from giants like Pioneer, Panasonic, et al., why they can't get their damn technology to work. With all that CE firepower, you'd think they could get DL discs to work. Or at least SL discs. And players.

digitalfreaknyc

In short...ANYTHING.

Spiky

I would say that backing from Pioneer and Panasonic is worthless in this topic, at least this summer. They are waiting for the technology to be made at this point. And Sony is the one working on it, with Samsung. Maybe next year the other companies will start having an impact once they start tweaking.

This would apply to HDDVD, as well.

Artman

Well they did use the original release art for BHD if that's any indication... I would expect a higher priced edition later on with the extras from the 3disc dvd. (hopefully not too much later) I'd love for the releases to be loaded right outta the chute, but that doesn't look like it's going to be the case.

calhokie

The news so far isn't encouraging. BHD is one of the few BD releases I am eager to see and now it sounds like it is going to be sub-standard. Sony seems to be doing their best to screw things up.

Supermallet

Listening to Microsoft about Blu-ray is going to be about as accurate as listening to Ann Coulter for a fair view of liberals. Microsoft wants to BURY Sony. I'm not saying that the rumors circulating aren't true (I honestly haven't read enough to say they are or aren't), but Microsoft wouldn't say something good about BD to save Bill Gates' life.

digitalfreaknyc

Umm...I don't know if *I* could say something good about BD to save MY life. There's really no advantage to it.

Supermallet

I'm not turning this into a BD vs. HD debate, I'm only saying anything Microsoft says should be taken with a grain of salt (or at least verified with a more neutral third party) because they are so determined to destroy Sony.

digitalfreaknyc

At this point, I'd trust Microsoft over Sony ANY day. Look at what we're dealing with?

Supermallet

Even before this format war, the words "Trust" and "Microsoft" were never intertwined in my mind, unless you throw in "Anti" before the "trust".

awmurray

Yea, I don't believe what MS says w/o question. However, MS said they chose HD-DVD because BR would have manufacturing problems. That was months ago. It seems like BR is being delayed due to the very reasons MS alluded to. There are rumors of yield problems with the discs, just like predicted, etc..

Burnt Thru

Look at where those rumours are mainly coming from.

flashburn

Why would ANY partners in the BD Group talk bad about their own product. Of course they are just going to say everything is fine and dandy, or not say anything at all.

Burnt Thru

Many of the rumours are coming from MS posters on an internet message board. Strange that these rumours should support Microsoft's stated position.

awmurray

The point is BR seems to be having the exact problems that were predicted months ago in the 'why MS chose HD-DVD' article.

I'm not talking about rumors. I'm talking about multiple product delays, high cost and low disc yields. I've heard of those things from other sources besides MS.

digitalfreaknyc

I honestly don't know of ANY of these so-called rumors that weren't fact.
Burnt is just pissed because most of them have been bad about BD.

I wouldn't say there's an anti-BD stance from the MS guys. Obviously they work for a company that is supporting a product and as such, all of their information seems to be (mostly) about HD DVD and where it stands as of now. You should try reading the postings from the MS insiders before bashing them. Everyone else there seems to respect them.

Spiky

Sorry, but that is just silly. Maybe if you qualified that to be only refering to HDDVD vs BD.

Where is Vista, again?

digitalfreaknyc

Sorry. Which forum are we in? Oh right. The HD one.