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ChrisHicks 06-01-06 09:52 AM

Blu-Ray = R-rated, DVD = unrated...why?
 
I see that there are a few titles coming out where the dvd has an unrated cut while the Blu-Ray disc only has the R-rated version(Basic Instinct 2 & Ultraviolet) and am wondering if this will be the next trend. you want Blu-Ray but also want the unrated cut you need to make double purchases of both dvd and blu-ray. why not offer both versions on the blu-ray disc?

Adam Tyner 06-01-06 09:58 AM

I wonder if the goal is to:

1) keep the number of SKUs down (so no separate R-rated/unrated releases)
2) keep the prudish folks happy by not offering R-rated and unrated on the same disc
3) reconciling #1 and #2 by only having an R-rated version

I agree that it's colosally stupid. My guess: Sony would rather just have one disc per movie at launch, and they think that if there's only going to be one disc, it makes more sense for it to be rated.

digitalfreaknyc 06-01-06 09:59 AM

Do we need to have 2 versions of every movie? THAT is the bigger question.

gimmepilotwings 06-01-06 10:07 AM

Yet another reason I am not liking Blu Ray at this point....

Giles 06-01-06 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings
Yet another reason I am not liking Blu Ray at this point....

yeah!

Spiky 06-01-06 10:27 AM

Just because we have a new disc format doesn't mean they are going to change the silliness that sometimes appears. We'll still have multiple releases of some movies, no doubt enough to make us insane.

Oliver Clothesoff 06-01-06 10:41 AM

Sony et al. are the king of double dipping. Prepare to se unrated versions on blu-ray later.

RockStrongo 06-01-06 10:47 AM

Maybe they are having issues with seamless branching on BD??

digitalfreaknyc 06-01-06 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Maybe they are having issues with seamless branching on BD??

This is a possibility. I haven't heard anything about it from either camp. Is it possible?

Oliver Clothesoff 06-01-06 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Maybe they are having issues with seamless branching on BD??

hey with all that space (lol), why not put both versions in full on there.

RockStrongo 06-01-06 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
hey with all that space (lol), why not put both versions in full on there.

Well, I suspect that some director's/unrated cuts are not already put together in full length.

They just insert the new/alternate scenes using seamless branching. This might be the issue they are running into. So, putting both full versions on it is not an option.

Im just speculating though because Im obviously not an editor.

Not saying this is just a problem with BD either. HD-DVD could have similar issues, but I dont know.

digitalfreaknyc 06-01-06 12:20 PM

Has seamless branching even been discussed by either camp?

RockStrongo 06-01-06 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Has seamless branching even been discussed by either camp?

I dont know, but since BD is using MPEG2 encoding AND single layer discs (25gb) for a while, it very well may not fit on one disc.

Burnt Thru 06-01-06 04:48 PM

Are people really interested in watching the unrated version of the movie? It's always struck me as being like the "director's cut" scam where the studio trys to convince you you're missing out if you don't watch this version. Extra footage is better off being included as deleted scenes, IMHO.

Drexl 06-01-06 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
I dont know, but since BD is using MPEG2 encoding AND single layer discs (25gb) for a while, it very well may not fit on one disc.

That's what I was thinking.

Another reason could be that if they're only going to release one version, they figure it should be the theatrical cut for the "purists."

Spiky 06-01-06 04:53 PM

Really depends on the movie. Sometimes I prefer deleted scenes separate, but sometimes they are so good I wish they were just in the movie.

Burnt Thru 06-01-06 04:56 PM

One possibility is that retailers have demanded fewer versions of the early movies, in order to use less shelving real estate for such low volume formats.

Sorry, just wanted to type "shelving real estate" : it makes me feel like such a pro. :D

Josh Z 06-01-06 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
My guess: Sony would rather just have one disc per movie at launch, and they think that if there's only going to be one disc, it makes more sense for it to be rated.

I agree. They chose the rated one so that retailers like Walmart will carry it.

awmurray 06-01-06 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Burnt Thru
Are people really interested in watching the unrated version of the movie?

Yes, if there were cuts to the movie due to the MPAA. High Tension is a perfect recent example as well as The Hills Have Eyes remake.

DthRdrX 06-01-06 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Spiky
Just because we have a new disc format doesn't mean they are going to change the silliness that sometimes appears. We'll still have multiple releases of some movies, no doubt enough to make us insane.

Thank You. These titles will probably be released numerous times in various forms.

TheKobra 06-01-06 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by Spiky
Really depends on the movie. Sometimes I prefer deleted scenes separate, but sometimes they are so good I wish they were just in the movie.

Perfect example would the the original Star Wars movies vs. the SE versions.

RockStrongo 06-02-06 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Josh Z
I agree. They chose the rated one so that retailers like Walmart will carry it.

Does Wal-Mart not carry any unrated versions? Or are they just selective as to which unrated titles to carry (like BBV)?

If the former, just another reason for me to hate WM. ;)

Drexl 06-02-06 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by RockStrongo
Does Wal-Mart not carry any unrated versions? Or are they just selective as to which unrated titles to carry (like BBV)?

If the former, just another reason for me to hate WM. ;)

It depends on whether the title would get an NC-17 rating. If it would get an R or even a PG-13, they'll carry it.

Spiky 06-02-06 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by TheKobra
Perfect example would the the original Star Wars movies vs. the SE versions.

Yes, those add-ons should be kept separate. Like still buried in a closet somewhere on Skywalker ranch.

RockStrongo 06-02-06 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Drexl
It depends on whether the title would get an NC-17 rating. If it would get an R or even a PG-13, they'll carry it.

Ah, so they are like Blockbuster then.

"They're driving me CRAZY. These Baptists are stupid. Stupid. STUPID."

jk ;)


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