Amazon.com shopper's responses to Sony's Blu-Ray (BDP-S1)
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
huh. i thought you, of all people, wouldn't think that being a "sony backer" would be a bad thing.
You act like he said he sided with Hitler.
You act like he said he sided with Hitler.Personally, while I do think you go a bit over the top some times (much love) your "transformation" is very telling. It is something, if you are representative of early adopters who were solidly behind Sony, that Sony should be very wary of.
As someone early to this party, I will say that DFNYC was an EXTREMELY vocal BR supporter. He's definitely not a fence sitter.
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No prob on that question lol They will choose HD-DVD. Neither format has all studios behind them so the average consumer if they choose to buy at all will buy the cheapest format if they have identical PQ. That is a fact which no one can argue.
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Originally Posted by The Bus
This is not unimpeachable, empirical proof of anything. It is simply an observation.
On the Amazon.com page under "What do customers ultimately buy after viewing items like this?" we see:
63% buy OPPO OPDV971H Digital HD-Ready Up-Converting DVD Player
23% buy Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD PLAYER
9% buy Samsung DVD-HD950 HD Conversion DVD Player (Black)
5% buy the item featured on this page: Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc Player
The 23% for the Toshiba doesn't surprise me, the 63% for Oppo does. Does this mean adoption of any HD-type format will be slow. Or is the fact that nearly 30% of people are buying an A1 or a BDP-S1 remarkable?
On the Amazon.com page under "What do customers ultimately buy after viewing items like this?" we see:
63% buy OPPO OPDV971H Digital HD-Ready Up-Converting DVD Player
23% buy Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD PLAYER
9% buy Samsung DVD-HD950 HD Conversion DVD Player (Black)
5% buy the item featured on this page: Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc Player
The 23% for the Toshiba doesn't surprise me, the 63% for Oppo does. Does this mean adoption of any HD-type format will be slow. Or is the fact that nearly 30% of people are buying an A1 or a BDP-S1 remarkable?
OPPO -> Cheapest and In Stock
Toshiba -> Out of Stock
Samsung -> Available only through third party, but not directly from Amazon.com
Sony -> Most Expensive and Not yet available
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Personally, while I do think you go a bit over the top some times (much love) your "transformation" is very telling. It is something, if you are representative of early adopters who were solidly behind Sony, that Sony should be very wary of.
As someone early to this party, I will say that DFNYC was an EXTREMELY vocal BR supporter. He's definitely not a fence sitter.
As someone early to this party, I will say that DFNYC was an EXTREMELY vocal BR supporter. He's definitely not a fence sitter.
I "became" gay just as Will and Grace came out though. I could just be going with what's cool. What do I know?

Mr. Cinema...to answer your question...
as someone who worked at Circuit City, they're going to sell whichever gets them a higher commission. I know for CC there were codes on the actual sales slip where you took the 3rd, 5th and 7th #'s (or something like that) and it told you how much money you'd make off of it. Sales people will steer the person towards whichever one will get them more money.
I also sold a shitload of DIVX players in my time because I knew how to sell it. I knew how to get around it's shortcomings. I guess the biggest difference is that the DIVX players weren't $1000. Even *I* couldn't sell that shit.
On the other hand, though, if they had to be honest and explain which is better as a format and as a medium itself...
Well, at least they could say that Blu-Ray has a larger capacity. That wouldn't be lying.
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Again, the ONLY thing BR has is support= studio/manufacturer. And they got that support through unfulfilled promises.
Even if BR loses the format war for movies, I doubt the technology goes away. The applications toward computer use are going to be killer apps. That kind of storage (50GB) on optical media (something HD-DVD cannot match) is going to be very attractive to many people (myself included).
I consider myself fairly neutral, but I'm excited about the possibility of BR writable computer drives. On the movie front, I was probably initially a BR suporter, but that has died down considerably in the last 6 months. Once the whole 360/HD-DVDp gets settled, I'll pick up a HD-DVDp of some sort.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
huh. i thought you, of all people, wouldn't think that being a "sony backer" would be a bad thing.
You act like he said he sided with Hitler.
You act like he said he sided with Hitler.
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made the thread in which the comment was posted is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.
There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made the thread in which the comment was posted is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.




