http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10795/...etails-Emerge/

According to the Unofficial Playstation Magazine PSM the Playstation 3s price will be announced at a whopping $400. 1080p, hard drive, Blu-Ray, and the highest graphics for only $400 this fall. While not official PSM magazine is fairly reliable source and if they are right that is friggin sweet news. I am a little skeptical since the Playstation 3 costs $650 to make and it would be a huge gamble for Sony. Don't take this as official yet but pray to God it is.

As was mentioned at a recent Blu-Ray meeting, a movie with many sequels would have a multipart videogame on the Blu-Ray disc. For instance, you would buy Mission Impossible, and would play the first part of the Mission Impossible game. When you buy the sequel, the second part of the game would start where the first one left off (with the stats transfering).

Yeah, doesn't sound like too much of incentive to us diehard movie fans, but to little kids (ie Disney's core audience), that is like crack. Can't you see people buying Lilo & Stitch, and then buying the crappy sequel just to finish the game? Huge selling point.

If they can pull off all of that for $400 I will definitely get one in 2007 when you can actually find one in a store.

I think the most interesting thing about this article is that Sony is not going to announce the price at E3....very odd since things seem to be so in motion for Nov....I think that tells alot....basically, there is still not a price set yet.

We have been hearing $400-500 for some time....I think this was released to slightly combat the release of HD-DVD....Sony knew they had to say something.

Sony may very well announce the Playstation 3s price at E3 or they might not. Its anyones guess at this point. If the $400 price tag is real then all I can say is Sony must be really really desperate to make Blu-Ray a success.

Well, for one thing, with BD-J, Sony can write viruses into their discs and load them into your player. And with the network connection, they can also put worms on them as well. Giving Sony BD-J would be like giving a drug addict some crack rocks. Who knows where they'll take it?

Or, they could do what josh says...

So the kids buy a PS3 so they can play crappy games on BR movie discs? Wouldn't they just play PS3 games?

I like what Universal has mentioned is possible with Fast and Furious 3 where they say the user could customize a car and then the car would be in the movie.

iHD is XML based, but there must be an engine of some sort underneath to do those types of things.

I would think that if a Christmas launch is in the plans, that E3 would be the best time to announce. If they do not, then Sony is holding something big back.

Anything later would probably show signs of it ending up like the 360 launch.

Its possible that Sony unofficially leaked a fake price to PSM to take away thunder from HD-DVD and the 360. By putting it out without making it official would make it stick for a bit. $400 price tag would mean a $250 loss on every console sold. Over twice the loss of the 360. I am always skeptical of Sony. They are greedy but not stupid.

If there truely is no price announcement at E3 then I would guess a higher price tag.

With games for only $100 each? Seriously, if $400 happens, I'll actually preorder one. And, although I have 9 of them, I've never bought a video game console in its first year of existence in my life.

Where did the cost of $650 come from? CNET earlier guesstimated it at $800.

A MSRP of $400 would be sweet. I'm salivating thinking about it. Anything around $500 and I'm definately going to pre-order one as soon as possible.

Yeah, I believe the cost to be closer to $800. I don't think they'd want to take a $400 loss on each, unless games sell for $80, which is unlikely.

No. Java is fully capable of running games all by itself on the same processors which are used to process the audio and video off the disc. A PS3 wouldn't be required. You would just put the disc in your Blu-Ray player, and play the game. A quick look around java.com and you see how much of a variety of applications can be run off Java.

Also, Sony BMG <> Sony

That $800 price estimate was long proven to be a hoax. Most components are similar to the Xbox 360 and the Blu-Ray drive adds an extra $250. Added costs will be much cheaper then $800. The estimates I have read saying around $650 seem most realsitic.

well, I am officially joining the list of HD-DVD owners. I placed my order today for the Toshiba HD-XA1. I know I could have saved some $ and got the A1 but since I'll most likely keep this thing for a few years I just splurged.

Which movies did you get? Out of the 6 that are available, I would personally choose Serenity and Apollo 13 first....

I am getting Serenity, Doom and Million Dollar Baby(for the wife).

I should be getting Doom from Amazon.com on Friday. I thought it was okay, but I want to see how it is on HD. Should be a good reference disc.

I know that (I've been writing Java code since 1996)... The problem is the games that come on a BR disc probably wouldn't compare to a stand alone game that they could be playing on the PS3... For example, why play the Doom game that comes on the BR when you could play the real Doom game on the PS3... I just don't see it as a big draw.

We're talking about kids and older adults, not the kind of people who own a videogame machine. Its not going to be a huge draw for you because you are buying the disk for the high definition video and audio. For kids, that's not a big deal. They don't care if Bambi is in HD, they just want Bambi. Disney realizes this, so they are going to add things like games and highly interactive features which kids like. I imagine a hunting game on the Blu-Ray version of Bambi wouldn't go over so well, but something along those lines of an easy-to-play game for kids to latch on to. For adults, I could definitely see the Bond movies coming with an interactive triva game with a host and opposing contestants, with your score being saved to a profile or sorts. Again, you and me could give two shits, but the guys who are addicted to Bond will have something else to brag about.

Look, I'm no marketing guy, but I know there is potential there. Whether or not they use it is to be seen, but the greater potential is definitely with BD-J.

I believe that's true. There would be a lot of flexibility that would open up a lot of creative potential for developers. Actually the great thing about BD-J is it opens up the format for things we can't even imagine right now... that's a sign of a good system.

They'd better leverage it right away though. If BR debuts and they don't/can't show the advantage of BD-J they're in trouble. They're not going to be able to wait long to showcase it.

Can you provide a reasonable source?

At this point, I'll side with CNET over "Jimmy345". Not that you are wrong, but I would still like to see a source. CNET's estimates, at the time, seemed totally reasonable to me.

I don't have a link at the momment but the $800 report was fake. Playstation 3 is not any generations beyond the Xbox 360. The hardware is mostly pretty similar. Blu-Ray only adds about $250 so how is an $800 possible.

Why would CNET fake it? I could see them getting it wrong, but I doubt they deliberately lied about the costs.

What is the cost of the X-Box? The first two Google hits I found said wildly different things: $550 and $715. Going with the lower number, $550 and adding your "Blu-Ray only adds about $250" (this is your estimate of the cost of a Blu-Ray drive, I suppose? Any link for that?), you get $800.

The CNET report certainly made sense and is in line with what I've seen for expected costs of the components. You don't happen to have a link handy on the finding it was "fake", do you?

Okay, so I have found various sources on the XBox 360 cost. Most agree with $500 per unit as a manufacturing cost.

Using the logic from your quoted post above: $500 (cost of 360) + $250 (Blu-Ray drive, your price) = $750 (cost of PS3).

This is an incorrect statement, isn't it? I believe Toshiba has announced their player will support 1080p out via a firmware updgrade later this year. There is some question about their chips ability in supporting it and if there might be another chip in the unit, currently deactivated, that will enable 1080p.

$500 is in my 'Buy' window. For $500 I'll by a player if they have some movies I want to see, HD or BR.