So, pics can be shared, right? The internet isn't broken or anything?

Actually those pictures from the Amazon site are pretty sketchy if you ask me. Those may be from an early prototype.

If the official spec sheet lists 5.1 analog out and Dolby Digital Plus decoding I would expect to find both in the finished model.

I wasn't looking on Amazon. I was looking on Best Buy. Either way, I guess it's possible. I assumed they were new pics cause it seems like people just noticed.

All I see at BB is the front and the remote.

not a pic but as per Crutchfield:

The BD-P1000 is one of the first video players of any type to provide true 1080p output — 1920 x 1080 pixels progressive scan, the highest HD signal output currently available. TV makers are shifting to 1080p resolution for their top-performing flat-panel and projection TVs, and this Blu-ray player is a pixel-perfect match. Even if your HD-capable TV is a few years old and lacks an HDMI connection, don't worry, you can still experience Blu-ray. High-definition signals up to 1080i are available through the component video output.

The BD-P1000 owes its high-def capabilities to Blu-ray's high storage capacity. Blu-ray Discs can hold a lot more picture information than regular DVDs can, and a Blu-ray player feeds that information to your TV at a much faster rate than a DVD player. The result is picture quality that's consistently sharper and cleaner than standard DVD — images simply look more real. The larger your screen, the more apparent the improvement becomes.

The BD-P1000 also plays standard DVDs, and will make your entire DVD library look better than ever by upconverting the video to 1080p (or 720p or 1080i — you can choose the resolution that most closely matches the display capabilities of your HDTV). This versatile player can also play audio CDs, including home-burned CD-Rs and CD-RWs.

Details:

» plays Blu-ray high-definition discs (selectable output resolution: 1080p signals available through HDMI output only; 720p/1080i signals available through HDMI or component video)
» plays DVD-Video, DVD-R & DVD-RW, DVD+R & DVD+RW, and DVD-RAM
» plays CD and audio CD-R & CD-RW
» selectable 720p/1080i/1080p video upconversion for DVD
(upconverted video available through HDMI output only)
» built-in audio decoding for Dolby® Digital and DTS®, plus multichannnel uncompressed PCM
» BD-Java interactive capability
» HDMI digital output (combines video and multichannel audio with HDCP copy protection)
» 1 set of A/V outputs (composite video, S-video, and component video)
» stereo and 5.1-channel audio outputs
» coaxial and optical digital audio outputs
» 9-in-2 Multi Memory Card slots
» remote control (multibrand for TVs)
» 216MHz/12-bit video D/A converter
» multichannel 192kHz/24-bit audio D/A converters
» 17"W x 3-1/8"H x 13-1/4"D
» warranty: 1 year parts, 90 days labor
» Want more peace of mind? Extended Service Plans Available
» viewing high-definition Blu-ray content requires an HDTV or HD-ready TV
» DVD movie playback is restricted to "Region 1" coded discs

Yup...that's the problem. The pic contradicts the specs.

I guess we'll know in less than a month.

I'm wondering if the BD people are going with the Samsung though or waiting for Sony and the rest.

If the final Samsung player contradicts the official specs on their site in any way then they are douches of the first order. That includes DD+ decoding. You better get the spec sheet of a $1000 piece of hardware correct.

Again, i refuse to believe anything as concrete coming from the BD side until I see it with my own eyes. There hasn't been any reason to thus far, IMHO.

What Pic?

Dude...i guess it was Amazon. I don't remember. I saw it last night. It might have just been posted on AVSforum. :)

Found it:http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8...00rear11ku.jpg

Seems to be some question, though. It looks like it says BD-P5000 or 3000, not 1000.

Looks like 1000 to me. But it's so small that it's hard to tell, i guess.

"BLUE RAY DISC PLAYER"?

And for a model that is obviously for the American market (UL rating logo, no EC logo, region 1 DVD logo), how come voltage is set as 220V?

And an imageshack picture...

I smell a rat.

Check Amazon. Same picture is there.

Where do the specs say DD+ decoding? I don't see it in there.

Well, I want 7.1 outputs to match the technology and my setup. So it doesn't matter much to me, inadequate either way. Esp since it won't even decode all the new formats.

I played with it a bit in PS, it does look more like a 1000 with some help. This originally came from wherever Amazon got it. The guy is just storing it. But it's already suspect since it is so old.

The Amazon image is piddly. This must have come from somewhere else.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/DVDP...es/bdp1000.pdf

It clearly says Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS, MP3 audio decoding under the list of features.

1080p Upconverting for dvds... NICE.

As if the difference between 1080i and 1080p isn't already small enough. I seriously doubt you would see any improvement over a SD DVD converted to 1080i versus 1080p.

Just got back from BB here in the city. Still none in stock of the Toshie. And I passed by it 3 different times. Each time there was someone new watching the demo and picking up the movies. :up:

Definitely pisses me off though that there is a dedicated "home theater" set-up not 10 feet away and it definitely doesn't look as good as HD DVD. It's jittery. Not sure what that would be because of...but someone needs to fix that shit.

If you really want to get technical about it, that document could be read as "Dolby Digital-compatible, Dolby Digital Plus-compatible, and DTS-compatible. Also offers MP3 decoding", as I'm sure their lawyers will argue when someone calls them on it.

I expect that this player will simply extract the Dolby "core" audio from the DD+ stream.

You are talking about BB, right? Give up, it will save you from migraines. If you give a damn about quality anything, it's the wrong store for you.

I actually stopped in BB this week. Needed some photo paper. But I did wander by some other stuff. They had one A1 box on the shelf, somebody was pawing it, but I didn't stand there staring to see if it was actually purchased. And there was a player sitting on the shelf, but it was with DVD players and I'm not sure it was actually hooked up to anything. Certainly not in any fancy setup. No 1080p TVs that I could find anywhere, either. Course, this particular store didn't even rate a Magnolia corner. Others in town might be slightly better.

First BD review, copied from AVSforum:

Had a chance to look at and play with the new Sony BD-1 around an hour ago for about 25-30 minutes. Here is a synopsis on what I found/thought as well as some comparisons to HD DVD and my XA-1.

1. Sony BD-1 was connected via HDMI to a Sony Qualia 70 inch RPT (1080p display).

2. Surprise #1: Although the demo disk is encoded in 1080p, the player itself is only able to output 1080i (so I guess this is something Sony must be working on now).

3. At the back was a 'not for sale' sticker as well as the usual video and audio (5.1 analog + digital) connections, but no ethernet (none that the sales guy or me could spot).

4. The demo disk was playing a concert and while moving the display around the hdmi cable came loose. When we plugged in the cable, there was no error message but the player stopped playing. Not sure if it was because the cable was pulled loose or the stop button was pressed by mistake.

5. I pressed the eject button and immediately the tray opened. I pressed close and it closed immediately. So far I am pretty impressed with the response time

6. Play --> image on screen was exactly 35 seconds (timed on my Omega chronometer for accuracy). So load time between inserting a disk and playing is about the same as my XA-1. From my experience the XA-1 rarely takes over 30 seconds, mostly in the 20-25 second range.

7. The disk started from the begining (not where it was last stopped) and pressing the play button did not start the disk. It was stuck on a screen where you had to select a demo vignette. The Play All was selected, but it didn't play. While the sales person looked for the remote I browsed around the store. However, I later learnt that the salesperson actually had to power off and power on the device to get it to play - so I missed the total start up time. He did this because the remote was not located. So powering on with a disk inside will play it automatically, but not if you have the menu screen (may be how the demo disk is made)

8. The picture quality as expected was spectacular. It is hard to tell the audio quality, but it seemed to be good - there was a lot of bass

9. Kill Bill was used to show the contrast between SD and BD PQ. IMHO this works better than the ship demo used for HD DVD.

However, I was focusing on the little details. I noticed that unlike the HD DVD demo or my own experience the text 'High Definition' and 'Standard Definition' had noticeable artifacts around them. The HD DVD demo disk and any subtitles on any HD DVD I have viewed are completely artifact free. So this was the only defect I could find in an otherwise excellent demo disk. The movie demos were very good whereas a scene from a concert was the softest looking.

10. In absolute terms the PQ of the BD movie demos are very impressive. Does it blow HD DVD to smithereens - you be the judge. In my score book I give the edge for PQ to HD DVD (for now).

11. I was able to pick up the BD-1 and generally handle it and the thing is very well made and solid.

12. Zero promo materials in the store. I asked the person who helped me if he would get one, he said, nah....I'll get the PS3!

13. No pre-orders, available on Aug 15th.

So do I believe it's a slam dunk for BD? Not from what I saw today, both from a hardware and software perpective.

Item 2 has since been updated to say:

2. Surprise #1: Although the demo disk is encoded in 1080p, the player itself is only able to output 1080i (so I guess this is something Sony must be working on now). EDIT: Confirmed that the player supports 1080P, the Qualia 006 only accepts 1080i over hdmi. So, this was not a player related issue.