PS3 as a BRD player - predictions
01-21-06, 07:34 PM
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If one is looking at PS3 for the Blu-ray only, I'd rather spend a couple or few hundred dollars more and buy a much better Blu-ray player than rely on the PS3...which will surely be of same quality as the DVD player in PS2.
But, that's just me. I'm sure many couldn't care less.
But, that's just me. I'm sure many couldn't care less.
01-21-06, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidH
If one is looking at PS3 for the Blu-ray only, I'd rather spend a couple or few hundred dollars more and buy a much better Blu-ray player than rely on the PS3...which will surely be of same quality as the DVD player in PS2.
I'm a little disheartened at the prospect of only a million PS3's in Nov, thus making it hard to get one till first quarter 07... and the confirmed BR titles being less than what I'd hoped.
Seeing the same cover-art slapped on the BR displays doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that the studios are putting any effort into the initial titles either. Thoughts?
01-21-06, 10:46 PM
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I'm really concerned about the tranfers. Film can definitely look better than it does at the current DVD resolution but I have my doubts about studios actually producing HD transfers that are worth upgrading for. Especially with the early releases. Lets not forget the many bad transfers made in the early days of DVD.
As far as the PS3, I don't see it being a great Blu-Ray player (its going to be doing a lot at a much lower price point from standalone players so expect compromises), but it should be okay until the second generation of standalone players hit the market with the bugs worked out and at lower prices.
As far as the PS3, I don't see it being a great Blu-Ray player (its going to be doing a lot at a much lower price point from standalone players so expect compromises), but it should be okay until the second generation of standalone players hit the market with the bugs worked out and at lower prices.
01-21-06, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by darkside
Especially with the early releases. Lets not forget the many bad transfers made in the early days of DVD.
01-21-06, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
It should be BC because BC with PS2 games is a selling point of the system. In order to read those discs, the player will need to read DVDs and CDs. Wether it upconverts is anyone's guess, but I doubt it.
01-22-06, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Artman
Seeing the same cover-art slapped on the BR displays doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that the studios are putting any effort into the initial titles either. Thoughts?
That's the way it should be. If anyone is confused by the big-ass BLUE packaging as opposed to regular dvd, then they have other issues that need to be dealt with.
01-24-06, 11:54 PM
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If the PS3 is delayed potentially till November, how bad will this hurt blu ray if Toshiba gets theirs out in march/ early april? We've heard that the xbox is going to get an add on HD player, i'm curious to see if they can get that out in the summer as well. If all that happens, then i would think that the momentum would be with HD DVD. IT'll be interesting to see what happens in the next two months.
01-25-06, 10:49 AM
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I agree with Josh. Also, I don't know about you guys, but I have no problem spending a few hundred dollars more than the PlayStation3 to get a GOOD Blu-ray player. But, in the meantime, I'm on the fence anyway. The fact that Blu-ray is getting rushed makes me think there may be a number of frustrating bugs and glitches on many players and/or discs. I just can't justify spending so much money on items which will probably have issues. Again, if the quality is there, then no problem. As I said, I'll be on the fence and see how it starts to roll out.
01-25-06, 12:40 PM
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I do have a problem spending a few hundred more. Because that's going to be close to a grand and I'm not paying that much to watch a BR movie. A PS3 will be my only way to watch one, unless they can match the entry level Toshiba HD player.
If the PS3 is delayed to November, what was the planned release? Summer?
If the PS3 is delayed to November, what was the planned release? Summer?
01-25-06, 03:53 PM
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If it has decent Blu-Ray capacity, that's definitely a selling point for me, especially early. I'm sure I'll buy one eventually, since I've been nothing but happy with PS and PS2, but the added BluRay support is the thing would make me buy it earlier, rather than waiting for the price to go down (as the library goes up).
I definitely won't be to pay a few hundred dollars more for a decent blu-ray player. I can wait.
I definitely won't be to pay a few hundred dollars more for a decent blu-ray player. I can wait.
01-29-06, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
If the PS3 is delayed to November, what was the planned release? Summer?
01-31-06, 10:57 AM
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I wouldnt count on the PS3 this year in the US until there is an official announcement. I have a feeling it will be out in Japan at the end of this year (maybe) and in the US early next year. I just have a feeling about this since there are so many issues with blue ray and no one has any solid details on the PS3. If it does come out this year expect major shortages at launch cause they are having issues making the Cell precessor and with the addition of a Blue Ray drive I am pretty sure they will have problems meeting demand for it.
I will buy a PS3 the day it comes out and I might buy a few Blue Ray discs for it, but my TV is just 720p and I wont be able to get a 1080p set for a few years so I am in no rush for HD DVD or Blue Ray. I will just use my NeuNeo to upscale my current library and maybe get a few BR discs of movies I really like.
I will buy a PS3 the day it comes out and I might buy a few Blue Ray discs for it, but my TV is just 720p and I wont be able to get a 1080p set for a few years so I am in no rush for HD DVD or Blue Ray. I will just use my NeuNeo to upscale my current library and maybe get a few BR discs of movies I really like.
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01-31-06, 02:44 PM
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Okay I'll refute it.
Burden of proof
If I say something that goes against what is widely accepted, it is up to me to prove it.
If I say a major major project by a big CE manufacturer is going horribly wrong (as in missing the targeted holiday season), I really should have a smidgen of information to back that up.
Otherwise, it is speculation: "forming opinions without having definite or complete knowledge or evidence"
which is what bluntman72's post is.
Burden of proof
If I say something that goes against what is widely accepted, it is up to me to prove it.
If I say a major major project by a big CE manufacturer is going horribly wrong (as in missing the targeted holiday season), I really should have a smidgen of information to back that up.
Otherwise, it is speculation: "forming opinions without having definite or complete knowledge or evidence"
which is what bluntman72's post is.
02-01-06, 03:50 AM
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As far as speculation on the PS3 goes, my favorite is a nice article on next-gen.biz (which was later reproduced by Business Week), because it goes totally against the grain, and because if true, it'd be a great thing for those of us who intend to use the PS3 mainly as a Blu-ray player.
02-01-06, 06:29 AM
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The name of this thread is "PS3 as a BRD player- predictions" which is a request for opinions. The other thread you started presented your opinion as fact.
As has been said, only after some time has passed will we know how things shook out. Personally, I think BR is still going to win the format war, but if they make mistakes that HD can capitalize on then BR could go by by. But I try to remain objective and not cheerlead for one team or another.
As has been said, only after some time has passed will we know how things shook out. Personally, I think BR is still going to win the format war, but if they make mistakes that HD can capitalize on then BR could go by by. But I try to remain objective and not cheerlead for one team or another.
02-01-06, 10:24 AM
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Removed off-topic/bickering posts. Further posts along those lines will be deleted.
Remember, this is a discussion forum, so discuss. Write posts with substance. These little jabs and rolleye graphics don't qualify.
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02-01-06, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Grubert
As far as speculation on the PS3 goes, my favorite is a nice article on next-gen.biz (which was later reproduced by Business Week), because it goes totally against the grain, and because if true, it'd be a great thing for those of us who intend to use the PS3 mainly as a Blu-ray player.
02-03-06, 03:53 AM
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PSM has published a juicy article on the PS3 that also discusses its multimedia features. This is the interesting bit for us:
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Sony’s long term plans extend beyond gaming and into the broader entertainment world. “DVR [digital video recorder] functionality is going to be a big push for this thing [PS3],” PSM was told. “We don’t know exactly how the video’s going to get into the system, but it’s a top priority for Sony,” they added, elaborating that “high-def movie and TV episode downloads over the online service are a definite, kind of like the iTunes Music Store.”
Sony is planning to take the media center functionality that Microsoft bult into its Xbox 360 a big step forward, according to our sources and others in-the-know. It will also allow the PS3 to stream all major video and audio formats over a home network. Location Free playback using the PSP is still planned to be in the final hardware, meaing that you will be able to use the portable to watch DVDs and video files, view photos, and listen to music stored on your home network anywhere in the world via the internet. Taking things a step further, the PSP will be able to send data to the PS3 (for example, pop the Memory Stick from your digital camera into your PSP while on vacation and send photos home). The PSP will also be able to control the DVR functions of the PS3.
“It’s something that will evolve to add new features over time,” our sources point out, adding that frequent firmware updates will continue to add new functionality to the PSP and, eventually, the PS3 as well.
Sony’s long term plans extend beyond gaming and into the broader entertainment world. “DVR [digital video recorder] functionality is going to be a big push for this thing [PS3],” PSM was told. “We don’t know exactly how the video’s going to get into the system, but it’s a top priority for Sony,” they added, elaborating that “high-def movie and TV episode downloads over the online service are a definite, kind of like the iTunes Music Store.”
Sony is planning to take the media center functionality that Microsoft bult into its Xbox 360 a big step forward, according to our sources and others in-the-know. It will also allow the PS3 to stream all major video and audio formats over a home network. Location Free playback using the PSP is still planned to be in the final hardware, meaing that you will be able to use the portable to watch DVDs and video files, view photos, and listen to music stored on your home network anywhere in the world via the internet. Taking things a step further, the PSP will be able to send data to the PS3 (for example, pop the Memory Stick from your digital camera into your PSP while on vacation and send photos home). The PSP will also be able to control the DVR functions of the PS3.
“It’s something that will evolve to add new features over time,” our sources point out, adding that frequent firmware updates will continue to add new functionality to the PSP and, eventually, the PS3 as well.
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02-03-06, 09:02 AM
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If possible, Sony should jettison any of these ideas that add to the cost of the console. People have devices that do a lot of this stuff already. Keep the hardware lean and mean and do't worry about this "set-top box" crap they have been trying to get going for 10 years.
02-03-06, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
If possible, Sony should jettison any of these ideas that add to the cost of the console. People have devices that do a lot of this stuff already. Keep the hardware lean and mean and do't worry about this "set-top box" crap they have been trying to get going for 10 years.
We know that it won't come with a hard drive, but once you buy one (if you buy one), it would be nice for them to release that update once they have solidified a launch position. Get the product out now, and start worrying about possible upgrades later.
02-03-06, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
If possible, Sony should jettison any of these ideas that add to the cost of the console. People have devices that do a lot of this stuff already. Keep the hardware lean and mean and do't worry about this "set-top box" crap they have been trying to get going for 10 years.
02-03-06, 10:30 AM
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Sony seems to want the PS3 to be all things to all people, and yet somehow rumors still persist that it will retail for under $500. I'd be very surprised if that were true.
I anxiously await the announcement that the PS3 can also toast your bread and microwave a burrito.
I anxiously await the announcement that the PS3 can also toast your bread and microwave a burrito.
02-03-06, 01:55 PM
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Not directly, too much heat from some of those cooking appliances, but it should at least be able to control the microwave through the network. Right? Get that burrito cooked just as you finish a level on the game.