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d2cheer 07-07-18 10:30 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367525)
When did the feedback forum become an offshoot of the politics/religion forum?

Oh you could not have guessed this is where this thread eventually was heading???

GhostLee 07-07-18 11:25 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 
Is calling for the banning of other members, or even hinting they should be banned, within forum rules? If it is, it seems like the kind of "skating within the rules" the mods are trying to address.

Hopefully, suspensions and bans won't be determined based on posters' political leanings.

Mabuse 07-07-18 11:26 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367525)
When did the feedback forum become an offshoot of the politics/religion forum?

When a mod moved my thread here. Then closed it. Then directed all conversation to this thread.

You know what? You guys are right. What we need is more moderating.

Mabuse 07-07-18 11:29 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 13367573)
So the President of the United States mocks the disabled, attacks women and minorities, gives disparaging nicknames to anyone who opposes him, lies constantly about the most easily proveable facts and works to divide everyone into us vs them and people are surprised that has carried over into political discussions?

How are we supposed to have calm and mature political conversations when the subject of many of those conversations is an unhinged liar?

Presidents of the US drop bombs on people. We seem to be able to discuss it without actually bombing one another. But if he is a naughty creep we have to act like naughty creeps?

Adam Tyner 07-07-18 11:41 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13367600)
When a mod moved my thread here. Then closed it. Then directed all conversation to this thread.

Two different mods. Neither of whom were me, FWIW, although I do agree with the thread being moved out of Other (where it's not relevant) and into Forum Feedback.

I'm not sure what the overtly political discussion going on now has to do with that, considering that the moved thread was about changes in moderation approach.

mspmms 07-07-18 12:01 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by d2cheer (Post 13367577)
Oh you could not have guessed this is where this thread eventually was heading???

-ohbfrank- Many can't help themselves there - sadly this thread is no better.

Meathead 07-07-18 12:10 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13367600)
When a mod moved my thread here. Then closed it. Then directed all conversation to this thread.

You know what? You guys are right. What we need is more moderating.

Your thread (and this one originally) had nothing to do with Trump and that's what this thread has devolved into.

mspmms 07-07-18 12:25 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367615)
Your thread (and this one originally) had nothing to do with Trump and that's what this thread has devolved into.

Its almost embarrassing.

Vibiana 07-07-18 01:43 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 13367421)
I'm going to make that into a country song...

Jesus lock this thread. I can't take it any more.
Because ten years ago this place was so much fun.
Now it's all bitching about bathrooms and guns...
Flags and abortion and football players on their knees...
And Trump being Hitler when he's really Mussolineeeeeeeee....

Jesus lock this thread. I can't it any more.
I just want my boron cowpunch back.

You da man, Joshie! :lol:

slop101 07-07-18 02:12 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367615)
Your thread (and this one originally) had nothing to do with Trump and that's what this thread has devolved into.

How?
My post here had nothing to do with trump directly, but was a response to PerryD's strawman claim, pointing out how his post was bullshit and asking him to point to examples, which he still hasn't done. It wasn't about trump, but in line with this thread and how people shouldn't get butthurt when they get called out for their bullshit.

Draven 07-07-18 03:15 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13367603)
Presidents of the US drop bombs on people. We seem to be able to discuss it without actually bombing one another. But if he is a naughty creep we have to act like naughty creeps?

How would the conversation go if that President bombed people in the US who disagreed with him? Still calm and civil?

When is it allowed to be outraged by what the President does? And who gets to decide when that outrage is appropriate.

That’s what’s so frustrating about these calls to close the Politics forum. It’s like closing the HR department because there are too many sexual assault complaints. It is not a “nice” time for many people in this country, yet all conversation here has to be calm and civil no matter what the President is sending out into the world with his official statements?

PerryD 07-07-18 03:38 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367693)
How?
My post here had nothing to do with trump directly, but was a response to PerryD's strawman claim, pointing out how his post was bullshit and asking him to point to examples, which he still hasn't done.

It's hilarious that I quoted in detail an actual example of what I was complaining about in my original post, yet you didn't read it, then still asked for examples, then I told you again it was quoted in my post and you still didn't read it. But just feel free to feel superior because of your ability to block what you don't want to see because reading comprehension through the blinders is very hard.

slop101 07-07-18 04:35 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by PerryD (Post 13367737)
It's hilarious that I quoted in detail an actual example of what I was complaining about in my original post, yet you didn't read it, then still asked for examples, then I told you again it was quoted in my post and you still didn't read it. But just feel free to feel superior because of your ability to block what you don't want to see because reading comprehension through the blinders is very hard.

Oh, I read it, after someone else already took your baseless "examples" apart, dismantling all your points (which looks like you haven't read). Responding after that would've just been redundant.

It's so fucking typical how people like you throw baseless accusations at other for shit that you're guilty of! That's why I bring up trump, because trolls like you seem to take his lead in their dishonest interactions.

DVD Polizei 07-07-18 04:39 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 13367718)
How would the conversation go if that President bombed people in the US who disagreed with him? Still calm and civil?

When is it allowed to be outraged by what the President does? And who gets to decide when that outrage is appropriate.

That’s what’s so frustrating about these calls to close the Politics forum. It’s like closing the HR department because there are too many sexual assault complaints. It is not a “nice” time for many people in this country, yet all conversation here has to be calm and civil no matter what the President is sending out into the world with his official statements?

Why is it when your celebrated attacks you launch on others that are called out...suddenly become your semi-religious torch-bearing cause that only you and a small handful of participants can understand, and you're just trying to do what's right. And now you proclaim you're the one being victimized.

But if anyone disagrees with that, you have the "right" to be "outraged" and cause whatever trouble you wish.

By the way, DVD Talk is far from being the HR Department of society. :lol:

And if it is at all representative of it...we need to close the forum now and just let the stench work its way out of DVD Talk naturally.

You guys don't have other places to vent your "outrage"? Maybe that shithole of a discussion world called Reddit? Twiiter? Facebook?

If there were a lot of members in Politics, regularly posting, I'd think differently, but it's a small group of people who have banded together to gang up on anyone who enters that place who has a difference of an opinion. Facts are not presented. Just opinionated attacks until the newcomer just leaves.

Need examples? I challenge the mods/admins from other forums to take a visit there. Right now. And see who's posting. Who is new. Etc.

Meathead 07-07-18 05:51 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367693)
How?
My post here had nothing to do with trump directly, but was a response to PerryD's strawman claim, pointing out how his post was bullshit and asking him to point to examples, which he still hasn't done. It wasn't about trump, but in line with this thread and how people shouldn't get butthurt when they get called out for their bullshit.


Originally Posted by Draven (Post 13367718)
How would the conversation go if that President bombed people in the US who disagreed with him? Still calm and civil?

When is it allowed to be outraged by what the President does? And who gets to decide when that outrage is appropriate.

That’s what’s so frustrating about these calls to close the Politics forum. It’s like closing the HR department because there are too many sexual assault complaints. It is not a “nice” time for many people in this country, yet all conversation here has to be calm and civil no matter what the President is sending out into the world with his official statements?


Originally Posted by PerryD (Post 13367737)
It's hilarious that I quoted in detail an actual example of what I was complaining about in my original post, yet you didn't read it, then still asked for examples, then I told you again it was quoted in my post and you still didn't read it. But just feel free to feel superior because of your ability to block what you don't want to see because reading comprehension through the blinders is very hard.


Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367760)
Oh, I read it, after someone else already took your baseless "examples" apart, dismantling all your points (which looks like you haven't read). Responding after that would've just been redundant.

It's so fucking typical how people like you throw baseless accusations at other for shit that you're guilty of! That's why I bring up trump, because trolls like you seem to take his lead in their dishonest interactions.

Again is this the feedback forum or the politics/religion forum? If you can't keep this BS confined to that forum then perhaps it is time for new rules including the elimination of the p/r forum.

PerryD 07-07-18 06:19 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367760)
It's so fucking typical how people like you throw baseless accusations at other for shit that you're guilty of! That's why I bring up trump, because trolls like you seem to take his lead in their dishonest interactions.

I thought you were talking about my post in this thread about the constant references to Nazis and Hitler in the Trump thread. You are picking out a normal political discussion post and calling that trolling? Any post that's not far left is considered trolling obviously. That's just ridiculous.

Vibiana 07-07-18 06:53 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 
If you think DVDTalk is such a shithole, maybe don't post here.

d2cheer 07-07-18 07:31 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Vibiana (Post 13367819)
If you think DVDTalk is such a shithole, maybe don't post here.

Vibs... you are better than that.

Have you read what has been posted lately??? It is a perfect example of that many are complaining about.





Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367797)
Again is this the feedback forum or the politics/religion forum? If you can't keep this BS confined to that forum then perhaps it is time for new rules including the elimination of the p/r forum.

Agree with this 1000X

This is exactly what I expected it to be.

gryffinmaster 07-07-18 08:05 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367797)
Again is this the feedback forum or the politics/religion forum? If you can't keep this BS confined to that forum then perhaps it is time for new rules including the elimination of the p/r forum.

It’s the Forum Feedback and Support section, and a pertinent discussion is taking place about boundaries, accepted rhetoric, and the world of Trumpism as they relate to this community. Going by the responses, and calls from certain members to close that section entirely, it looks like it’s a conversation that needed to happen.

Draven 07-07-18 08:58 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by DVD Polizei (Post 13367764)
Why is it when your celebrated attacks you launch on others that are called out...suddenly become your semi-religious torch-bearing cause that only you and a small handful of participants can understand, and you're just trying to do what's right. And now you proclaim you're the one being victimized.

“Victimized”? :lol: I’m not the one calling for the closing of a sub forum because people are too mean.


But if anyone disagrees with that, you have the "right" to be "outraged" and cause whatever trouble you wish.
Thanks for the permission.


By the way, DVD Talk is far from being the HR Department of society. :lol:
Yeah I didn’t say it was :lol:


And if it is at all representative of it...we need to close the forum now and just let the stench work its way out of DVD Talk naturally.

You guys don't have other places to vent your "outrage"? Maybe that shithole of a discussion world called Reddit? Twiiter? Facebook?
I’ve been on this site longer than you. I’ll post where I want. You are free to not read it.


If there were a lot of members in Politics, regularly posting, I'd think differently, but it's a small group of people who have banded together to gang up on anyone who enters that place who has a difference of an opinion. Facts are not presented. Just opinionated attacks until the newcomer just leaves.
What about the pro-Trump group? No facts, just opinions. What’s the difference?

slop101 07-07-18 11:25 PM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367797)
Again is this the feedback forum or the politics/religion forum? If you can't keep this BS confined to that forum then perhaps it is time for new rules including the elimination of the p/r forum.

I'll fucking say it AGAIN, my post here have NOT been about trump or politics, but about about some of the members here hiding behind disingenuous posting tactics who then complain when they get called out for it. Kinda' like what you're doing right now, complaining that I'm bringing up politics when I am absolutely not. If you're being genuine here (which I doubt), you need to ask yourself why you're knee-jerking yourself into this misinterpretation.

Meathead 07-08-18 04:43 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367937)
I'll fucking say it AGAIN, my post here have NOT been about trump or politics, but about about some of the members here hiding behind disingenuous posting tactics who then complain when they get called out for it. Kinda' like what you're doing right now, complaining that I'm bringing up politics when I am absolutely not. If you're being genuine here (which I doubt), you need to ask yourself why you're knee-jerking yourself into this misinterpretation.


Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367443)

Originally Posted by PerryD (Post 13367336)
I quoted the post. Yes, when people say Trump and his followers want to exterminate blacks, Latinos and gays, I reply.

When someone posts that the entire agenda of the Trump agenda is the same as Nazis, I reply. I'm not making a strawman here in the least.

While I wouldn't say that trump literally wants to exterminate those people (yet), I don't think anyone has actually said so, but he has said and implemented things against those people. So I would like to see your reply that repudiates that actual things trump and his supporters say and do. Fecicious question, because trump and his supporters have actually said and done such things.

Clearly you are and it doesn't belong in this forum. Sorry you can't see that.

slop101 07-08-18 08:07 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367970)
Clearly you are and it doesn't belong in this forum. Sorry you can't see that.

"Clearly"? The only clear thing here is that you've being purposely obtuse as my response you quoted was about HIS disingenuous post, pointing out his strawman argument. If you take that as bringing up politics (seriously, what political policy am I bringing up here?), then you're the one how can't see, and arguing in bad faith, which is what I'm addressing, not fucking trump or politics - get it?

Meathead 07-08-18 08:11 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13367991)
"Clearly"? The only clear thing here is that you've being purposely obtuse as my response you quoted was about HIS disingenuous post, pointing out his strawman argument. If you take that as bringing up politics (seriously, what political policy am I bringing up here?), then you're the one how can't see, and arguing in bad faith, which is what I'm addressing, not fucking trump or politics - get it?

None of which belongs in the feedback forum, get it?

slop101 07-08-18 10:00 AM

Re: Why is this sig being allowed in the forum?
 

Originally Posted by Meathead (Post 13367992)
None of which belongs in the feedback forum, get it?

Yeah, I get it now; you're being purposefully dense.

This thread is about a signature that calls people out on their bullshit and whether we should be allowed to do so, you know feedback. So now it's obvious you're being a fucking troll first by crying "whaa! why are you talking about politics!!!" then being proven wrong, walking that back and still crying "whaaa! why are you bringing up that I talk bullshit - not fair!!!"
Your trolling is now apparent.


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