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Re: Address MOD Questions....?
Curious as to what defines a "competing" site? Anything movie, music, book, or otherwise entertainment related? Politics? Gambling? We throw a pretty wide net here...
I didn't see what transpired in the music thread, but if, for instance, I'm involved in a discussion on another site about the movies of Ozu and wanted to refer to that thread here, would that be feasible or forbidden? |
Re: Address MOD Questions....?
Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 11757546)
Curious as to what defines a "competing" site? Anything movie, music, book, or otherwise entertainment related? Politics? Gambling? We throw a pretty wide net here...
Originally Posted by own_inthread_explanation first post referencing another site copied to mod forum for discussion. Thread closed to avoid temptation to test what is currently allowed in terms of discussing "competing" sites. |
Re: Address MOD Questions....?
Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 11757546)
Curious as to what defines a "competing" site? Anything movie, music, book, or otherwise entertainment related? Politics? Gambling? We throw a pretty wide net here...
I didn't see what transpired in the music thread, but if, for instance, I'm involved in a discussion on another site about the movies of Ozu and wanted to refer to that thread here, would that be feasible or forbidden? |
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What's goofy is that it's a sub forum. I can understand if someone is sending people to other sites for blu-ray or DVD stuff. If someone posts a link to ARS Technica in the Tech forum, is that a competing site? I think most of us are adults who use various websites and get info about websites from other websites. Keeping everything bottled up and chastising users isn't a way to meet the ends talked about - a lightening of the load and transparency.
And VinVega, thanks for the reply. |
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Okay, so a guy registers for the site and his first move is to resurrect a long dead thread and post a link to a website -- obvious spammer, should be banned. I get that. But since when does that warrant shutting down the entire thread? Just in case people start discussing things and stuff? What do you think this is, kindergarten?
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Seems like the common sense is lost and the site wants to be run by firm rules.
Which makes one wonder if this thread should be allowed then: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/music-talk/...following.html |
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Originally Posted by benedict
(Post 11756921)
danwiz, please read the SOP in the sticky. That confirms that suspendees henceforth will always be emailed and explains the appeal process.
By the way, I believe that nearly three years ago you were asked to stop what was regarded as by mods and various members as repeated spamming of your own website. I would imagine that the automatic censorship of your site was implemented because of your repeated circumvention of the rules as I believe they were then set out. A new version of these particular rules remains under discussion with IB and should be published before too much longer. So, for the avoidance of doubt, are you now saying now that you did not receive any of the warnings. Or that you received some or all of them but simply misunderstood? For illustrative purposes, I will quote below the following message that I sent to you on or around 22 September 2010:The record shows that - after a slight hiatus - posting privileges were returned early November at which time you contacted the team and included a promise not to mention your domain again... I am fairly positive that I never received any notification(s) that I had been suspended. I need to check the e-mail address you have on record for me. (DONE - yes, it is correct). So, possibly an e-mail from you folks went into my spam folder and got deleted without being read. That is the only thing I can think of. I believe that what happened was that I ASSUMED that I was suspended for mentioning my website too much or too often and therefore I promised not to mention it in the future. I have, however, mentioned it a couple of times since then - but only when people asked specific questions which I was able to address by referring them to a photo available there. For example: somebody within the past several months asked about converting his/her collection to thinpaks and I gave him/her a reference to show what a collection in thinpaks looks like. Thank you, Benedict, for actually replying to me at this point. I appreciate it. |
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Originally Posted by The Cow
(Post 11758055)
Seems like the common sense is lost and the site wants to be run by firm rules.
In this case, there was a feeling that some rules had been applied unevenly, and an overall change has been implemented in the mod/admin team that will encourage more group deliberation on judgment calls before (and if necessary after) they are made. I think you'll be please with what you see :) |
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Common sense is anything but, common...
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Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 11757461)
[...] I have no problem with you. It appears you do, however, have a problem with me.[...]
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 11757546)
Curious as to what defines a "competing" site? Anything movie, music, book, or otherwise entertainment related? Politics? Gambling? We throw a pretty wide net here...
I didn't see what transpired in the music thread, but if, for instance, I'm involved in a discussion on another site about the movies of Ozu and wanted to refer to that thread here, would that be feasible or forbidden? I think that the music thread may have been a bit of a red herring since it was more to do with its bumping and the manner of its closure. And now there's another thread to discuss some of the issues first raised in the original one a couple of years ago so I hope that all is well that ends well! |
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I'll post this here as to not derail the "to shill or not to shill thread"...
The quote given by IB in that thread reads: “We can't very well ask vendors to support the site through advertising if we're going to allow anyone to hawk their stuff for free. Likewise, we don't allow competing websites to shill here or try to enlist support. Rule of thumb: if it potentially hurts this site, we shouldn't allow it; if it hurts our paying advertisers, siphoning or discouraging participators, it's hurting DVDTalk's ability to grow and improve." - IB If you ask me, that is a great rule of thumb to run any business by. Sound philosophy. Here's my beef, people like me have pointed out over and over a 'problem' with this site that is driving away customers, that has not been addressed, at least not in any direct way. Do you really think someone who works for a company posting about a sale on office supplies drives away more business than an ill-tempered admin who has been weilding the ban hammer against anyone who has the audicty to question him for what seems to be a number of years? It seems like the powers that be feel that this has been addressed (even if they are hesitant to come out and say it was a problem in the first place). I guess at this point time will tell if it has been or not. |
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On a side note Benedict, I love the avatar in your Public Profile:
http://i.imgur.com/MdeyxSj.gif :) |
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Mainly because I happened to be listening to this: http://youtu.be/s1Z1Zrot-go
Somehow the timing was perfect...... |
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Originally Posted by Minor Threat
(Post 11761728)
On a side note Benedict, I love the avatar in your Public Profile:[/IMG]:)
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Originally Posted by dave-o
(Post 11748435)
And to your other point. I'm sorry, when I hear from enough users, who don't know each other, describe the same situation repeatedly, the problem is most likely not with them. Sure there are always three sides to a story. But sticking your head in the sand and pretending that all is okay, when people are clearly telling you it is not okay, doesn't seem to be working. |
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When did benedict become a moderator? Is that a typo in his title?
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Been one as long as I can remember.
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He was previously an Administrator.
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Yes, I thought benedict was an Administrator recently. Maybe he is still is, but the title is shown wrong.
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I believe he asked to move down to mod.
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Yes, I handed in my badge once we'd got the "new" guys up and running. There are a few admin functions that take a bit of practice, so it'd be impractical (if not to say somewhat thoughtless!) to jump ship without a suitable bedding-in period :)
<small>FWIW, in line with many of my predecessors, I certainly intend sticking around as a regular member even when I'm no longer modding.</small> |
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benedict, you did a tough and thankless job during a difficult time at DVDTalk. Thanks for that.
If we are done with the admin and mod changes, can we get a current listing of our lords, so we know who to bow to? (or throw stones at :)) |
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As always, you can click on "View Forum Leaders" from the main forum page to see the mods and admins. Here's a link:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showgroups.php |
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Thanks. I didn't know we needed that many people to administer the site. Do we have a lot of windows to clean?
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I forget, what's a super moderator?
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Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 11772491)
I forget, what's a super moderator?
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Originally Posted by Psi
(Post 11772360)
Thanks. I didn't know we needed that many people to administer the site. Do we have a lot of windows to clean?
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Yeah... there is a lot of "work" being done to "backends".... ;)
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