Forums Slow Loading Lately?
09-14-11 | 07:21 PM
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09-14-11 | 08:16 PM
#152
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
Issues tonight with Firefox.
09-15-11 | 10:41 AM
#153
Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
I still don't see the big improvement of Chrome or Firefox over IE. I use Chrome and IE regularly, and other than Chrome opening up faster, not much difference, and I find I like the look of some sites better in IE, particularly Outlook Express.
09-16-11 | 07:57 AM
#154
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
Feels like IB may have shaved off a couple of seconds from the time it takes to access DVD Talk and/or navigate the site and make posts, but it still takes WAY too long for anything to happen here. Seems to me DVD Talk has done everything they can to keep the site fast, limiting avatars to only those who pay for the priviledge and keeping a lot of the advertising off the site, now it's IB's turn to resolve the remaining issues in the forum software. -kd5-
09-16-11 | 08:52 AM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
It's something more widespread than just the vBulletin software...since the sluggishness affects everything on the site, not just the forum, it's gotta be server-level, but I don't know what it is, exactly.
09-16-11 | 12:52 PM
#157
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
I say we do away with graphics altogether and make this a text only site. Movie covers and screenshots on reviews should all be done in ASCII.
09-16-11 | 04:38 PM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
(Yeah, today has been horribly slow, I'm using FF. I think it's getting progressively worse.)
09-16-11 | 05:33 PM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
Why do people think their choice of browser has anything at all to do with the server and database infrastructure? It just confuses the issue. I'm on three different networks frequently with as many as six different browsers. It's shitty everywhere, always.
09-16-11 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
I can't imagine many of you being on DVDTalk more than I, and except for minor blips early in this thread, my browsing has been rock solid fast as always. I'm on here with four or so networks, including AT&T's 3G, with multiple browsers, and it's great all the time.
So since you know stuff about networks, and I'm completely clueless, what's going on?
09-16-11 | 07:21 PM
#163
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
Could be a routing issue from specific networks going to Internet Brands. Maybe location specific?
I've had issues from home and work from multiple browsers. Or maybe some people have just been lucky at the times they visit the site.
I hit the site frequently throughout the day, every day.
I've had issues from home and work from multiple browsers. Or maybe some people have just been lucky at the times they visit the site.
I hit the site frequently throughout the day, every day.
09-16-11 | 07:23 PM
#164
Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
My point about the networks and browsers is that it shows the problem isn't on the client's end.
Networks: Cox, AT&T 3G, corporate VPN, client's corporate VPN.
Browsers: Chrome, FFX, IE (6-8), Safari, and Terra.
Devices: iPhone, iPad, Mac, HP laptop.
Networks: Cox, AT&T 3G, corporate VPN, client's corporate VPN.
Browsers: Chrome, FFX, IE (6-8), Safari, and Terra.
Devices: iPhone, iPad, Mac, HP laptop.
09-16-11 | 10:00 PM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
That it's not happening to you doesn't necessarily mean it's a very limited problem, though. I don't think any one of us have a way of knowing how widespread or limited a problem it is. It's clearly affecting more than a couple of us, though, and we're not in the same general location.
I've had numerous server disconnects and timeouts from Pittsburgh and two different networks in South Carolina, for whatever that's worth, spanning four different computers and several different pieces of software (including Lynx, so I know it's not Javascript or whatever).
It shouldn't be network-specific either. From my box in Pittsburgh:
...and from home:
Those seem pretty consistent and respectable to my eyes. I can try repeatedly and will consistently get fast pings. I can FTP into DVD Talk's servers and never have even a little bit of trouble or slowdown. I do anything over HTTP, and then it slows to a crawl. I've tried doing a bunch of wgets of forum pages and stuff, and once I'm connected, the content comes through really quickly. It's waiting for the server to respond -- and hoping my connection isn't cutoff, although that hasn't been happening as much recently -- that's the bottleneck. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen a lot. And again, it encompasses screenshots in reviews, the review CMS tools, CSS files in the forum...anything served over the web, not just the forum and not just database-driven content.
Maybe someone just needs to restart Apache?
I've had numerous server disconnects and timeouts from Pittsburgh and two different networks in South Carolina, for whatever that's worth, spanning four different computers and several different pieces of software (including Lynx, so I know it's not Javascript or whatever).
It shouldn't be network-specific either. From my box in Pittsburgh:
Code:
traceroute to www.dvdtalk.com (98.158.194.154), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
2 192.168.1.42 (192.168.1.42) 5.215 ms 0.699 ms 0.949 ms
3 te-3-1.car1.Pittsburgh3.Level3.net (4.49.116.253) 1.913 ms 2.281 ms 2.484 ms
4 ae-11-11.car2.Pittsburgh3.Level3.net (4.69.135.246) 1.986 ms 1.813 ms 1.9 55 ms
5 ae-3-3.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.135.250) 25.896 ms 24.765 ms 30.972 ms
6 ae-6-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.190) 13.978 ms
ae-1-100.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.151.178) 13.800 ms
ae-6-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.190) 13.794 ms
7 ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194) 13.787 ms
ae-1-100.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.132.114) 13.801 ms
ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194) 13.797 ms
8 ae-14-14.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.118) 32.813 ms 32.601 ms 32.96 1 ms
9 ae-71-71.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.137) 41.962 ms 35.793 ms
ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.161) 32.965 ms
10 ae-83-83.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.158) 32.763 ms
ae-63-63.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.151.134) 32.831 ms 32.782 ms
11 ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77) 64.445 ms 65.237 ms 64.9 53 ms
12 ae-62-62.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.18) 64.457 ms
ae-72-72.csw2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.22) 64.770 ms
ae-62-62.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.137.18) 69.722 ms
13 ae-31-80.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.144.131) 64.768 ms
ae-41-90.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.144.195) 65.108 ms
ae-31-80.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.144.131) 65.248 ms
14 INTERNET-BR.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.59.56.162) 67.242 ms 67.792 ms 67.921 ms
. . .
Code:
C:\Users\adam>tracert forum.dvdtalk.com Tracing route to www.dvdtalk.com [98.158.194.154] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 8 ms 9 ms 18 ms 10.186.128.1 2 10 ms 10 ms 118 ms acr01ssvlsc-gbe-4-9.ssvl.sc.charter.com [96.34.66.12] 3 11 ms 11 ms 9 ms acr02spbgsc-tge-2-4.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.64.16] 4 10 ms 9 ms 12 ms crr02spbgsc-tge-0-3-0-1.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.64.55] 5 12 ms 12 ms 17 ms bbr02spbgsc-tge-0-1-0-6.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.2.108] 6 17 ms 27 ms 13 ms bbr01spbgsc-tge-0-0-0-2.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.0.42] 7 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms xe-11-0-0.edge3.Washington1.Level3.net [4.59.144.69] 8 20 ms 22 ms 24 ms vlan90.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.149.254] 9 20 ms 37 ms 19 ms ae-94-94.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net [4.69.134.189] 10 80 ms 81 ms 90 ms ae-4-4.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.81] 11 81 ms 82 ms 82 ms ae-93-93.csw4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.46] 12 81 ms 79 ms 87 ms ae-41-90.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.195] 13 84 ms 84 ms 98 ms INTERNET-BR.car1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.59.56.162]
Maybe someone just needs to restart Apache?
09-20-11 | 08:45 PM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
I agree with you 100%, although I wonder if Chrome is behaving in a way that's exacerbating the problem. As a test, I unclicked "Predict network actions to improve page load performance" in Chrome, and the DVD Talk forums seem to be loading more reliably...still sluggish but not timing out. I haven't had that option removed long enough to be able to confidently say things are better, but it does seem promising.
09-20-11 | 09:10 PM
#169
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
My god, the forum is slow today (slower than usual). -kd5-
09-24-11 | 01:40 AM
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Re: Forums Slow Loading Lately?
I thought I was having browser issues until I saw this thread. I'd chalked up the slowness the past few months to my wife doing more streaming on the home network and/or me using an older version of FF as I was having issues on quite a few sites. However, I upgraded the browser but still saw sluggishness here. For the past several weeks I've experienced frequent issues with page loads. FWIW this is with FF 6.x on 3 different systems/2 networks (1 "home" 1 "corporate"). As others have indicated I get either a partial load or it just times out. In almost all cases a page refresh corrects the issue and the page will then load. Frequently I'll start 6-10 tabs opening only to have some "hang" with others loading OK. That behavior is what made me feel it was browser related. I've not tried IE nor Chrome.
