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WallyOPD 05-04-10 04:40 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10140067)
"use your head" is offensive to you? I can't believe how overly sensitive people are these days...if someone were to say "fuck you" would you curl up in the fetal position and slob uncontrollably?
Chill out is all I'm saying, don't take anything seriously.

It's not about being offensive, it's about not being a productive way to have a conversation.

Chrisedge 05-04-10 05:20 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
Wow, the nerve of some people...

Lemmy 05-04-10 05:54 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10139661)
wow..just saw this thread, and all I have to say is this

http://www.bilerico.com/2009/08/baby-crying.jpg

grow the fuck up

WHERE ARE THE MODS WITH THIS KIND OF INSULTING SHIT GOING ON?!?



Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10139879)
I bumped it so we can get more people to vote in the polls...use your head.

Why not let them die if there's such a low amount of interest? Use YOUR head.


Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10140067)
"use your head" is offensive to you? I can't believe how overly sensitive people are these days...if someone were to say "fuck you" would you curl up in the fetal position and slob uncontrollably?
Chill out is all I'm saying, don't take anything seriously.

Follow your own advice, pal.

Osiris3657 05-04-10 06:06 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
Lemmy I think I'm going to make a thread suggesting you should get banned because you contribute nothing to this forum and just whine. Seriously, who cares if there's a number of polls in the movie section?

By the way how are you able to post so much? You're in Detroit so I assume you're logging on from a public library or prison. Get a job

Travis McClain 05-04-10 06:21 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10140318)
Lemmy I think I'm going to make a thread suggesting you should get banned because you contribute nothing to this forum and just whine. Seriously, who cares if there's a number of polls in the movie section?

By the way how are you able to post so much? You're in Detroit so I assume you're logging on from a public library or prison. Get a job

In the case of Lemmy v. Osiris, I would dismiss the charge of too many poll threads on page one, and rule in favor of Lemmy on the charge of behavior violating the standards of the forum. Which is really a shame, because I'd just posted elsewhere that I hadn't witnessed any of the kind of immature behavior that apparently had begun to infiltrate this forum recently.

Lemmy 05-04-10 06:29 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10140318)
Lemmy I think I'm going to make a thread suggesting you should get banned because you contribute nothing to this forum and just whine.

I contribute plenty. Apparently, you're too busy gaming to notice.


Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10140318)
By the way how are you able to post so much? You're in Detroit so I assume you're logging on from a public library or prison. Get a job

Oh NOES, I bee'd insultededed...

Honestly? I'm going to hold my tongue about you from here on out, because I see the end result.... :banned: .....goodbye! :lol:

Chrisedge 05-04-10 06:55 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by X
Deja vu. We've been through this before.

This is exactly like watching dx23's response when he was told to keep the number of new threads down to our forum guidelines in order to give other people's threads a chance. First a message to me agreeing with the limits I pointed out, then a thread complaining about it. I guess people think trying to rally public opinion against a moderating decision will do more good than stating their case to the moderator or possibly appealing to other ones as well, but they're wrong.

DJariya, your threads look a lot like dx23's as well. The name of something coming up, and a link or a copied blurb about it. Very little, or even no initial discussion. That's probably why it's so easy to have 16 out of the 40 threads I saw on the first page when I PMed you.

For the record, the relevant part the rules we're working on will state this as not allowed...

• Posting complete nonsense, gibberish or using the forum to play posting games. This includes, but is not limited to, attempting "forum domination". That is, creating new threads in a forum when five or more threads of yours are on the first page of that forum, as well as responding to so many threads in a forum that it becomes obvious that your primary purpose is to have your name appear as the last poster.

It should be obvious to anyone who has been here for a while why we can't say it's ok for one person to do it and another not, or why it's ok in one forum and not in another.


http://forum.dvdtalk.com/9338330-post22.html

arminius 05-04-10 07:06 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
I think if the effort put into whining and sniveling about the threads were channeled to click on page 2 all would be well. I think it obvious that these polls will drop off rapidly and the really important threads now banished to page 2 will take their place on page 1. What worries me are the threads on page 47. Will we ever see them again? Think of the avatards.

Cardsfan111 05-04-10 07:08 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
Good to bring that post up, Chrisedge as a reminder for what's been stated before. Perhaps it's just my opinion, but I think X's previous description of "posting games" is not the same as the forum "game" that Osiris3567 has set up--posting games imply to me something in which the sole significance is to add to your post count. We see this at times when a new guy comes in trying to build up his post count so he can post a link (spam).

While I can see why folks might be a little agitated about the threads, it's easy to see that they will all fall by the wayside in a short period of time. I don't think there's any reason for the tone to turn so hostile as it has in this thread.

WallyOPD 05-04-10 08:17 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by cardsfan111 (Post 10140460)
While I can see why folks might be a little agitated about the threads, it's easy to see that they will all fall by the wayside in a short period of time. I don't think there's any reason for the tone to turn so hostile as it has in this thread.

Yeah, I kept trying to avoid having the thread go down that road but some people (on both sides) keep trying to agitate things.

Cheato 05-04-10 08:19 PM

Re: I don't moderate Movie Talk BUT...
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10139157)
It was annoying seeing something like:

Poll: DVDTalk Draft
Poll: DVDTalk Draft
Poll: DVDTalk Draft
Iron Man 2
Poll: DVDTalk Draft
Poll: DVDTalk Draft

That makes it really easy to see the Iron Man 2 thread.

So, you guys don't know how to click the little "2" on the bottom of the screen to look at the second page?

I'm not participating, and I'm not interested. I also don't care about the "challenge" threads or "sheep" games or any of the other (IMO) stupid crap that people do to waste time. So what? Should I expect every thread here to be tailored to my tastes? Now excuse me while I go play WoW.

fumanstan 05-04-10 08:29 PM

Re: I don't moderate Movie Talk BUT...
 

Originally Posted by Cheato (Post 10140592)
That makes it really easy to see the Iron Man 2 thread.

So, you guys don't know how to click the little "2" on the bottom of the screen to look at the second page?

I'm not participating, and I'm not interested. I also don't care about the "challenge" threads or "sheep" games or any of the other (IMO) stupid crap that people do to waste time. So what? Should I expect every thread here to be tailored to my tastes? Now excuse me while I go play WoW.

See my screen shot above. For me it's annoying to pick out the threads in between all the Draft threads :shrug:

No idea what being able to click to the 2nd page has to do with it. And obviously people ignore threads they're not interested in all the time. It's having to work around 8 threads that's just annoying.

Chrisedge 05-04-10 09:09 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by cardsfan111 (Post 10140460)
...it's easy to see that they will all fall by the wayside in a short period of time...

If they weren't being "bumped" too.

Guys posting in TV forum were doing a great job of setting up the days shows were being told they had too many posts going at once...

dx23 05-04-10 09:44 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by Chrisedge (Post 10140441)

That is why I agree with Lemmy on this. DJariya and I were posting actual new content and we got scolded and our threads got deleted inmediately. Osiris here is playing posting games, dominating the movie forum and after almost 3 days of this crap, nothing has been done, and Osiris keeps bumping the threads just for them to get attention. I find it funny that the mods apply the rules to some and not to others. Talk about double standard.

Cardsfan111 05-04-10 09:58 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 10140781)
That is why I agree with Lemmy on this. DJariya and I were posting actual new content and we got scolded and our threads got deleted inmediately. Osiris here is playing posting games, dominating the movie forum and after almost 3 days of this crap, nothing has been done, and Osiris keeps bumping the threads just for them to get attention. I find it funny that the mods apply the rules to some and not to others. Talk about double standard.

For the record, I somewhat recall the discussion that lead to X's post above. And I had no problem with all the TV episode threads being created. However, from his note there were 16 threads on page 1 compared with the 8 started by Osiris3657. So it's easy to see why there's a "double" standard. ;)

To be honest, no harm was meant by the threads Osiris3657 started. Perhaps it would have worked just as well (and not offended anyone) if a single thread would have been created for all the "matchups" in the draft game. But what's done is done. I say let's allow the mods to step in if it's deemed over-the-line. And in 24 hours, those threads will be a thing of the past...since it will be time for round 2! But hey, that will only be 4 threads. :D

Lemmy 05-04-10 10:18 PM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 10140781)
I find it funny that the mods apply the rules to some and not to others. Talk about double standard.

And I find it funny that after all this bitching in this thread, that not one fucking thing has been said or done by any of the mods.

But, then again, I also find it funny that one of the mods is participating in the threads discussed.

Oh, and for the record, I voted for wishbone....for obvious reasons.

benedict 05-05-10 02:49 AM

Move along, please. Nothing to see here...
 

Originally Posted by cardsfan111 (Post 10140460)
Good to bring that post up, Chrisedge as a reminder for what's been stated before. Perhaps it's just my opinion, but I think X's previous description of "posting games" is not the same as the forum "game" that Osiris3567 has set up--posting games imply to me something in which the sole significance is to add to your post count. We see this at times when a new guy comes in trying to build up his post count so he can post a link (spam).

While I can see why folks might be a little agitated about the threads, it's easy to see that they will all fall by the wayside in a short period of time. I don't think there's any reason for the tone to turn so hostile as it has in this thread.

Me neither. However, as I hoped was clear from my first post, "posting games" and "forum domination" aren't synonymous.

I also mentioned the "gratuitous bumping" phenomenon which can be a feature of either unwelcome trait.

To my mind a thread lives or dies by its topicality/popularity: a threadstarter himself artificially pushing his baby to the top of the page clearly demonstrates a failure of belief i.e. "people won't read my thread unless I keep it in their gaze" at the expense even of other threads that weren't being bumped.

Originally Posted by Osiris3657 (Post 10140318)
Lemmy I think I'm going to make a thread suggesting you should get banned because you contribute nothing to this forum and just whine. Seriously, who cares if there's a number of polls in the movie section?

By the way how are you able to post so much? You're in Detroit so I assume you're logging on from a public library or prison. Get a job

You know what? You're not helping. In fact, you've stepped beyond what I would call a reasonable defence of the plethora of threads you created and which you appear to have bumped to keep in the public eye. I mentioned gratuitous bumping in my first post here, presumably unread by you in much the same way as you seem oblivious to the rules of civil behaviour as promoted within the DVDTalk forums. You'll note the consequences of this.

Originally Posted by Lemmy (Post 10140375)
I contribute plenty. Apparently, you're too busy gaming to notice.

Oh NOES, I bee'd insultededed...

Honestly? I'm going to hold my tongue about you from here on out, because I see the end result.... :banned: .....goodbye! :lol:

I was going to say "good move"... until I saw this:

Originally Posted by Lemmy (Post 10140840)
And I find it funny that after all this bitching in this thread, that not one fucking thing has been said or done by any of the mods.

But, then again, I also find it funny that one of the mods is participating in the threads discussed.

Oh, and for the record, I voted for wishbone....for obvious reasons.

Holding your tongue would've been the better option, methinks, although I can see that the promised restraint was qualified i.e. no more interaction with Osiris3657.

As is often the case in situations such as this, mods were discussing the situation privately, including reported posts, past precedent etc.

Although they may not have posted here, the two active Movie Talk mods are aware of the situation and have it under close review.

The arguments for and against mean that it is not a simple case of accepting your viewpoint and closing all the threads. That would be to suggest that you are the centre of the universe (!) and that this temporary fad shouldn't be allowed to play out.

Instead, I believe what they intend to do is to monitor the situation for gratuitous bumps and make sure that the first wave is correctly superseded by smaller second and third waves etc. I believe that the defunct earlier round threads will be closed as they fall out of date.

Finally, please don't be tempted to call out a mod simply for participating in a thread which doesn't find favour with you. It doesn't help. If anything, it weakens any case that you are wishing to make.

All mods were members before they were asked to donate their time to assist in keeping things moving here. It is not expected that, immediately on assuming the mod mantle, they will ascend to an ivory tower to be forever cloistered away from the hustle and bustle of day to day forum "life". Why would anyone agree to do the job if their original reason for coming here was removed? I really shouldn't need to be reminding you/anyone of this: but for whatever reason the absurd suggestion that mods can only post as mods does seem to recur with depressing regularity.

Shannon Nutt 05-05-10 07:38 AM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
I was enjoying Osiris' draft game (wasn't a participant, just a voter), but I agree with those who say there were far too many threads in the movie talk section. Perhaps next time around cooler heads can prevail and maybe the mods can set up some kind of subforum for these kinds of games, assuming the majority of "regulars" are interested and want to participate (which in this case, I think there was enough interest).

As for the name calling, I won't dive into that debate, other to say I think the mods reacted properly.

Cardsfan111 05-05-10 07:42 AM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
I think the simple answer was for Osiris3657 to create one poll/thread will all the matchups he had created. But, he's a newer member and was unfamiliar in setting up a poll and how it worked. He even indicated that he didn't know he could set the poll with an ending time until after he had created one. And no one brought this to his attention. Instead he finds this thread after it's already on page 2 being critical of the game, his threads, etc. In no way do I condone his tone or response to this thread and the issue at hand, but it's somewhat easy to see why he'd be upset.

Larry C. 05-05-10 08:49 AM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
Enough talk I just wanna see them get into the octagon and get it on.

WallyOPD 05-05-10 09:20 AM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 
I think a compromise of either all the polls in one thread or spacing out the rounds so there are only maybe 2 polls going at a time would make the most sense. As I said earlier, I do enjoy the games (be they draft, sheep, challenge), even when I'm not directly participating. I voted in each of the polls of this game and look forward to the conclusion.

I just think it's also important to remember that not everyone does enjoy the games, and even those that do also enjoy the other threads/discussions going on in the forums. Normally when a topic doesn't interest you it's only a single thread to skip over, but when a single topic is taking up 8 threads it makes it more difficult to get to the content that does matters to you.

Trevor 05-05-10 09:35 AM

Re: Too many Osiris3657 polls in "Movie Talk"...
 

Originally Posted by WallyOPD (Post 10141339)
I just think it's also important to remember that not everyone does enjoy the games, and even those that do also enjoy the other threads/discussions going on in the forums. Normally when a topic doesn't interest you it's only a single thread to skip over, but when a single topic is taking up 8 threads it makes it more difficult to get to the content that does matters to you.

How is it difficult? No one reads every thread do they? You look at the forum page, see 35 threads, and click on the few that interest you.

If the bottom thread still has unread posts, you go to page two to see if anything interests you.

I still don't see how 8 threads inconveniences anyone.

On the current movietalk page one, there are 25 threads that don't interest me at all, should I complain about them and ask to have them deleted?

benedict 05-05-10 10:09 AM

... asked & answered
 

Originally Posted by Trevor (Post 10141362)
On the current movietalk page one, there are 25 threads that don't interest me at all, should I complain about them and ask to have them deleted?

Ideally, no.


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