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Old 12-04-07, 12:18 PM
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YOUR MEMBERSHIP TO THE DVD TALK FORUM IS ALSO PREDICATED ON YOUR ADHERENCE TO THESE RULES. If you violate any of these rules your account will be suspended and you may be permanently banned from membership at our discretion:

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• Posting links or information about where to purchase or sell drugs, guns or ammunition.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/legal.html
No one in that thread was posting where to purchase or sell guns, drugs,* or ammunition.

* Serial comma added for the enjoyment of wendersfan
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Old 12-04-07, 12:38 PM
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I live in New Jersey. I have no idea about how to obtain a gun or a gun license. I have no clue as to where to go to learn how to handle one or practice firing one.

I do know that I was very good at that carnival game where you shoot the water pistol into the clowns mouth and I was great at laser tag.

I need advise. Fire away.
At first reading, at least a part of the the original post looks like a request for purchase-related information.

I would assume that the thread was closed because it asks for information that members already have been told they are not allowed to provide.

If I saw a post that read "I have no idea how to obtain a bootleg DVD/CD.... I need advice" I would close the thread.
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Old 12-04-07, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by benedict
At first reading, at least a part of the the original post looks like a request for purchase-related information.

I would assume that the thread was closed because it asks for information that members already have been told they are not allowed to provide.

If I saw a post that read "I have no idea how to obtain a bootleg DVD/CD.... I need advice" I would close the thread.
Funny that this thread which actually gives information where to purchase a gun was allowed to go unlocked.
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Old 12-04-07, 12:52 PM
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it also got no replies which means many people probably didn't read it...including mods (at least I don't recall reading it but it was 2 years ago).
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Old 12-04-07, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyronin
Funny that this thread which actually gives information where to purchase a gun was allowed to go unlocked.
Would it make you feel better if I locked it now?

I think the big difference between the two-year-old thread and the current one (other than the number of replies) is that a gun "owned by Hitler" has value beyond its function as a firearm, while in the current thread the guy just wanted a weapon.

One's a collector's item, the other's a gun.
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Old 12-04-07, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wendersfan

One's a collector's item, the other's a gun.
And if one was stupid enough to try, the collector's item could fire a bullet just as effectively.
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Old 12-05-07, 11:30 AM
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Just out of curiosity, why can't we post information about where to buy/sell guns and ammunition? Drugs are obviously illegal so I understand that but there are very strict federal guidelines on purchasing guns and ammo.
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Just out of curiosity, why can't we post information about where to buy/sell guns and ammunition? Drugs are obviously illegal so I understand that but there are very strict federal guidelines on purchasing guns and ammo.
I would imagine it's because of the shitstorm that would erupt in the discussion thread.
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IIRC, it's actually an editorial decision from gkleinman himself, who is anti-gun. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I would imagine it's because of the shitstorm that would erupt in the discussion thread.
I don't quite understand that reasoning. It's not like everyone on this board doesn't know which retailers sell firearms. We're not talking about someone recommending some sketchy person selling handguns from his trunk in some back alley. And I would deem any "shitstorm" that would result to be off topic which is already against forum rules anyways. It's not like anyone is going to start up a buy/sell classifieds thread on here. Being able to protect ones family is a vital element of life and is something our founders outlined as an essential liberty. I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to start a thread to seek advice about wanting to know what would be the best weapon for home defense, or what their specific state laws would be to legally purchase a firearm,
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We can talk about two girls shitting in a cup and eating it. We can talk about rape, incest, molestation while making fun of the victims and the act itself. DVDTalk has a whole forum dedicated for porn. An industry that has no doubt cased harm to people and ruined lives. (even though I watch it myself yes I know that's hypocritical.) But we can't discuss guns or ammo both are legal in this nation to own and use and are even mentioned in the constitution. But I guess DVDTalk can't make money from that. Unless there are gun ads or something.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
IIRC, it's actually an editorial decision from gkleinman himself, who is anti-gun. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That's my understanding.
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I live in New Jersey. I have no idea about how to obtain a gun or a gun license. I have no clue as to where to go to learn how to handle one or practice firing one.
I missed the original thread this came from and can't even view it now but this person is trying to be a responsible gun owner and locking/deleting that thread is actually being irresponsible. Sure, there are other places he can go and people he can ask about it but he came here seeking advice (which is no different than any of the other advice threads in otter) and there are plenty on here that could have helped him out, myself included. I really more or less just want to know where the exact line is drawn on this as I have posted in several otter threads where guns were being discussed. I mean, if someone wants to know what size shot to shoot dove with can I advise them just as long as I don't mention where they can go to get that size shells? What if someone wants to learn how to get their CCP and the reciprocity laws involved in there state? Could I advise them on that just as long as I don't mention where to buy a gun?

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^^If that's truly the case then that's his decision and I have to respect that since this is his board but I truly hope he is never in a situation where he has to defend himself or his family and is unable to do so.
God gave us the gift of life. It is the most precious gift ever. To be unarmed is to be helpless to protect that gift; that is outright irresponsible.
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What is this all about?

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Read posts 1 through 14.
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Originally Posted by Toad
Read posts 1 through 14.

No shit.
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Skimmed through them and still don't see the point of this thread, or even know what all this whining is all about.

But hey, maybe you need to be from the U.S. South to comprehend this type of "guns = freedom" beliefs, even on private communities like dvdtalk, where the owners can moderate in any way they wish.

But by all means, carry on.

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Here's a link for the first result on a google search for "gun talk forum": http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/guntalk/config.pl?

Enjoy!
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But hey, maybe you need to be from the U.S. South to comprehend this type of "guns = freedom" beliefs
Because obviously there is only one region of the country where people own/use guns.

^I'm sure I can google and find a forum for 90% of the topics that come up in the other forum.

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There is a difference between owning/possessing a firearm and believing "guns=freedom", exclusively. Maybe you don't know the difference because you clearly are a believer in the latter.

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Guns don't equal freedom but are a tool that can be used to defend it (and is useful for many other activities such as recreation or hunting). This belief goes further than just the Deep South.

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Originally Posted by pinata242
Here's a link for the first result on a google search for "gun talk forum": http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/guntalk/config.pl?

Enjoy!
Are you suggesting that because this is a "DVD Talk Forum", we should only discuss DVDs? I'm fairly sure if I scanned your post history, I'd find posts on topics other than DVD related issues. It somewhat negates the point of even having an "other" forum if you believe that.

Gun threads have been inconsistently moderated for several years here. It's Geoff's board (or it was... I'm not sure how the buyout affects things in that regard) and he can do what he wants with it. Nobody denies that. It just seems like if you make a rule that says "Subtopics A and B pertaining to guns aren't allowed", it's an odd construction of that rule to close threads about "Subtopics C and D pertaining to guns." If he wanted the rule to be "No gun discussion whatsoever", he could have (and still can) make the rule as such.
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Nope, far from it. I'm just pointing out there are other places for such info. If this site has rules, adhere to them, whether you agree or not. It isn't a democracy, it doesn't have to be fair or balanced. There's a whole lot of internets for that sort of thing. I don't see this as an issue at all.
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Originally Posted by DeltaSigChi4
Skimmed through them and still don't see the point of this thread, or even know what all this whining is all about.

But hey, maybe you need to be from the U.S. South to comprehend this type of "guns = freedom" beliefs, even on private communities like dvdtalk, where the owners can moderate in any way they wish.

But by all means, carry on.

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Case in point.
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