Is this the same as linking to the adult forum?
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Is this the same as linking to the adult forum?
The review for Playboy's Girl Next Door keeps hitting in the rotation. Doesn't bother me. I'm a fan of boobies. But if you do click it, it go straight to boobie pics on the main review page. Seems appropriate givent he reasons one would buy the dvd, but also seems to be something you wouldn't want a link to from the other forums.
Again, doesn't bother me, but thought I would mention it in case you are not aware.
Again, doesn't bother me, but thought I would mention it in case you are not aware.
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Originally Posted by Big Dave
Doesn't bother me.
Originally Posted by Big Dave
Seems appropriate given the reasons one would buy the dvd
Originally Posted by Joe
The seem out of place to me.
The topic is being discussed in other forums where most members have no issue with the pictures (other than asking me to post more of them in the review) but to answer the question posed in the thread title; No, this is not the same as linking to the adult forum. Thanks for asking though.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=27830 (here's the review for the few of you that might have accidently missed it)
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Originally Posted by Houstondon
The topic is being discussed in other forums where most members have no issue with the pictures (other than asking me to post more of them in the review) but to answer the question posed in the thread title; No, this is not the same as linking to the adult forum. Thanks for asking though.
While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are
) as many or more expressed issues with the review being in normal circulation rather than being in the adult review circulation. i.e. with the add showing up outside of the adult forum during day time hours, and people thus not expecting any nudity in the review given when and where the ad was showing up.The following people all made similar such comments/agreed with other such suggestions of either not having nudity in reviews or at least keeping those ads in the adult circulation if nudity was to be allowed at least once in that thread:
whitetigress
Lunatikk
Maxflier
Groucho
Cultshock
Adam Tyner
X
Shannon Nutt
Ravyn
arsmith
Josh Hinkle
As for myself. I have no problem with nudity in playboy and other adult titles. I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation. Playboy titles should be in the adult review rotation period and especially if the reviews are going to have nudity in them.
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My main issue would be that the "DVD Reviews" link at the top of the forum has been touted as a link to a "Safe For Work" review page. Throwing a review in there with images of nudity seems to invalidate that.
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
My main issue would be that the "DVD Reviews" link at the top of the forum has been touted as a link to a "Safe For Work" review page. Throwing a review in there with images of nudity seems to invalidate that.
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Originally Posted by Houstondon
The content of the 3 disc set is represented perfectly by the relatively tame pictures contained in the review.

They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history. Just a little common sense should tell you that pics of boobs and bush (or lack of bush in this case) is not something that should be in general worksafe rotation.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation.
Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are...
Besides, the ORIGINAL thread talking about the title, you remember, the one in the REVIEWS section where people talk about issues with REVIEWS, mentioned no issues with the nudity (just my run on sentence). This thread was titled in such a way to be misleading but was not getting much attention for the last week until I stepped up to the plate (I have no problem exploring both sides of an issue via discussion). I find it curious that you keep referring to the review as an "ad" but then I also find it curious that some make repeated claims about DVD Talk reviews being safe for work or for children too. (see my quote)
Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
The following people...
Well, if we're going to start listing people that either have expressed a desire for such pics, have no problem with them, or merely expressed surprise at them and DID NOT say they were against them, we should probably be looking at all three threads relating to the topic rather than make sweeping statements about mischaracterizing discussions:
Dvsoman
darkside
Houstondon
McHawkson
Norml56401
Ravyn
Bigjim25
NCMojo
Michael Ballack
Wildo1966
TomOpus
Demontooth
Giantrobo
Chubacabra
Suprmallet
Beelinetoohive
Adam Tyner
Numanoid
Considering that the review is currently at the top of the mainstream list and has been for most of the week, I don't see the mass uprising some have suggested. My experience is that if people are offended or upset, they are MUCH more likely to speak up than when they are happy. Your personal mileage may vary but that is based on my observations.
Originally Posted by NBT
Pretty simple
Originally Posted by Joe
They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history.
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Originally Posted by Houstondon
So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe". 

Originally Posted by gkleinman
There are many links on the site, front page and forum which will lead you to a Safe For Work Review Page:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/list....Type=DVD+Video
We treat adult DVDs the same as mainstream. Do not descriminate against them for content.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/list....Type=DVD+Video
We treat adult DVDs the same as mainstream. Do not descriminate against them for content.
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
Geoff posted this back in August:
The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
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Originally Posted by Houstondon
Amazon sells the title so it is fair game for the mainstream section. The boxed set is for a reality TV show of three Playboy Playmates with some tasteful nudity. There was no explicit sexual activity and the review reflects what is in the three disc set.
I'd prefer not to have these titles show up in the adult section period, but if they are going to then the pages they link should at least be work safe and not have nude pictures.
It's one or the other IMO. Ads for review in full rotations for these "amazon carries them" adult titles=no nude shots in the review. Or have nude shots in the reviews and keep the ads in the adult rotation.
Originally Posted by Houstondon
So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe". 

People should be able to go to the DVD reviews page and not have to worry about getting porn covers on their screen when they want to check a review at work, or while their kids are around etc.
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Originally Posted by WallyOPD
The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
Geoff needs to get in here and clarify this.
Either the playboy review is inappropriate to his desires as quoted above, or he's changed his view on this and needs to let us no so people who don't want that type of content popping up can just avoid the review section all together.
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Originally Posted by Wally
The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
Originally Posted by Josh
Yes, those adult reviews should not come up in the main dvd review page. Their should be seperate portions of the site for DVD reviews and Adult DVD reviews IMO.
Oh, and just in case you haven't paid attention in the past, if/when G! jumps in the thread; he'll put his final say on the matter up and lock the thread if the past is any indicator. I had planned to remove the pictures until someone started trying to mischaracterize my comments and list names in a virtual pissing match. I may still do so (if I can't get a "spoiler" button to accomodate folks) but considering your past comments, I find it unlikely that you'd have "standing" in the matter since the word "Playboy" appears in the title (as well as your past comments that you have little use for our reviews). Still, I'll be more cognizant that some of you, however few, will resist any adult content on the website and minimize the issues you raise by my own consideration of your feelings.
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I have no problem at all with adult content on this site.
I just think it should be clearly seperated. We have an adult forum, and all adult posts go there.
I don't see why Geoff can't spend a little time reorganizing so that all the adult reviews and adult columns are in their own section.
Seems like a win-win for me. The adult content is all in one place and easy to find for those that want to peruse it. And those that don't want it popping up at work or whatever can freely read all the reviews etc. on the site with out worrying about it.
I'm not sure why you're so against having the content clearly seperated. What's the big deal about having one link to "DVD Reviews" and another to "Adult DVD reviews"???
Again, it's better organized and should kill all the bitching.
I just think it should be clearly seperated. We have an adult forum, and all adult posts go there.
I don't see why Geoff can't spend a little time reorganizing so that all the adult reviews and adult columns are in their own section.
Seems like a win-win for me. The adult content is all in one place and easy to find for those that want to peruse it. And those that don't want it popping up at work or whatever can freely read all the reviews etc. on the site with out worrying about it.
I'm not sure why you're so against having the content clearly seperated. What's the big deal about having one link to "DVD Reviews" and another to "Adult DVD reviews"???
Again, it's better organized and should kill all the bitching.
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Originally Posted by Houstondon
So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe". 

I know Gman says those DVD covers will stay put, but I don't see that as a good enough reason too add MORE porn stuff to normally non-porn sections of the site. When does it stop? I know porn brings in big $$$ to the site, so why don't you just pornify the whole damn thing? switch it to pornotalk.com and rake in the dough!
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
What a blatant mischaracterization of the responses in that thread. Take off your porn loving glasses and read it again.
While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are
) as many or more expressed issues with the review being in normal circulation rather than being in the adult review circulation. i.e. with the add showing up outside of the adult forum during day time hours, and people thus not expecting any nudity in the review given when and where the ad was showing up.
The following people all made similar such comments/agreed with other such suggestions of either not having nudity in reviews or at least keeping those ads in the adult circulation if nudity was to be allowed at least once in that thread:
whitetigress
Lunatikk
Maxflier
Groucho
Cultshock
Adam Tyner
X
Shannon Nutt
Ravyn
arsmith
Josh Hinkle
As for myself. I have no problem with nudity in playboy and other adult titles. I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation. Playboy titles should be in the adult review rotation period and especially if the reviews are going to have nudity in them.
While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are
) as many or more expressed issues with the review being in normal circulation rather than being in the adult review circulation. i.e. with the add showing up outside of the adult forum during day time hours, and people thus not expecting any nudity in the review given when and where the ad was showing up.The following people all made similar such comments/agreed with other such suggestions of either not having nudity in reviews or at least keeping those ads in the adult circulation if nudity was to be allowed at least once in that thread:
whitetigress
Lunatikk
Maxflier
Groucho
Cultshock
Adam Tyner
X
Shannon Nutt
Ravyn
arsmith
Josh Hinkle
As for myself. I have no problem with nudity in playboy and other adult titles. I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation. Playboy titles should be in the adult review rotation period and especially if the reviews are going to have nudity in them.
Josh.. First and foremost, do not add me to your misconceptions about the Playboy title "The Girls Next Door". The opinion which I offered was a compromised nothing else. I had and currently still do not have any problems with the Playboy title and I did not find the pictures offensive in any way shape or form.As a Adult reviewer ( Proud Perv!!
), the screenshots that were shown are very tame and I myself even enjoyed the tribute to Marilyn Monroe .The Playboy title "The Girls Next Door" is a reality show which as Don has explained many times is not part of the Adult Films and sold by Amazon. Playboy has been around for 50 years and I seriously doubt that you and others did not have a clue that their might have been some nudity.Why all the fuss about any adult content when there are far worst covers with blood , gore and guts on some horror cover that I have seen. If you ever took the time to read some of the adult reviews as you have pointed out and looked at some of the screen shot, there wouldnt be any need for continuing the topic All this pious moral back talk is a waste of time since you do not frequent the adult reviews as many others that do and those same people that enjoy our reviews even said that there were not enough pictures. Now that I have said my peace.. this Proud Perv/Writer will enjoy the rest of her night reviewing some adult titles .
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Originally Posted by joeblow69
No, I don't think they should be there either. Like Josh, I think it'd be fairly easy to create an "adult dvd reviews" button, so you didn't have to mix them in with the regular reviews.
I know Gman says those DVD covers will stay put, but I don't see that as a good enough reason too add MORE porn stuff to normally non-porn sections of the site. When does it stop? I know porn brings in big $$$ to the site, so why don't you just pornify the whole damn thing? switch it to pornotalk.com and rake in the dough!
I know Gman says those DVD covers will stay put, but I don't see that as a good enough reason too add MORE porn stuff to normally non-porn sections of the site. When does it stop? I know porn brings in big $$$ to the site, so why don't you just pornify the whole damn thing? switch it to pornotalk.com and rake in the dough!
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Originally Posted by joeblow69
Don, if you think those pics are tame, you've really been watching too much porn! 
They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history. Just a little common sense should tell you that pics of boobs and bush (or lack of bush in this case) is not something that should be in general worksafe rotation.

They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history. Just a little common sense should tell you that pics of boobs and bush (or lack of bush in this case) is not something that should be in general worksafe rotation.
Question.. if you are at work why are you surfing the net? Work safe? Doesnt make any sense at all.. sorry but I know when I was at work full time they blocked access to the net so the temptation wouldnt be there and work would actually get done..
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Originally Posted by The Cow
"all the bitching" ? 

Again, I don't see why it's not a reasonable compromise to have the adult reviews in their own section (still linked too from everywhere on this site) and to keep any reviews with nudity out of the regular review cover rotation or at the least flag them with a warning that there will be nudity on the review.
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It's not a moral issue for me, I'm in favor of seeing as many naked women as I can see. The issue is that that review section was said to be work safe and naked women are not.
Now Don thinks I'm misinterpreting that and maybe Geoff will step in and confirm that, but I always was under the impression that the "DVD Reviews" link up top was supposed to be a way to safeguard that I wouldn't run across any inappropriate content either at work or any time other people are around while I'm browsing.
Now Don thinks I'm misinterpreting that and maybe Geoff will step in and confirm that, but I always was under the impression that the "DVD Reviews" link up top was supposed to be a way to safeguard that I wouldn't run across any inappropriate content either at work or any time other people are around while I'm browsing.
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Originally Posted by Ravyn
Question.. if you are at work why are you surfing the net? Work safe? Doesnt make any sense at all.. sorry but I know when I was at work full time they blocked access to the net so the temptation wouldnt be there and work would actually get done..
I have a research job and can pretty much do what ever I want as long as I get my work done (salaried position rather than hourly).
And as it's a college network, there is nothing blocked.
Just because you couldn't surf at work doesn't mean that many don't, and also doesn't get at those who don't want such content popping up around their kids, or people who are just offended by it in general.



