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Old 05-04-07 | 10:15 AM
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Is this the same as linking to the adult forum?

The review for Playboy's Girl Next Door keeps hitting in the rotation. Doesn't bother me. I'm a fan of boobies. But if you do click it, it go straight to boobie pics on the main review page. Seems appropriate givent he reasons one would buy the dvd, but also seems to be something you wouldn't want a link to from the other forums.

Again, doesn't bother me, but thought I would mention it in case you are not aware.
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Old 05-04-07 | 04:32 PM
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Old 05-11-07 | 07:30 PM
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The seem out of place to me. I'm certainly no prude, but adult pics should stay in the adult forum and in adult reviews.
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Originally Posted by Big Dave
Doesn't bother me.
Yet you thought enough to bring it up as a complaint?

Originally Posted by Big Dave
Seems appropriate given the reasons one would buy the dvd
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Originally Posted by Joe
The seem out of place to me.
The content of the 3 disc set is represented perfectly by the relatively tame pictures contained in the review. Considering the "main review page" currently shows fully exposed genitalia on some of the adult covers (thanks to our friends at Adult DVD Empire), I guess I wonder why some tasteful pictures offend a few of you... Hmmmm.

The topic is being discussed in other forums where most members have no issue with the pictures (other than asking me to post more of them in the review) but to answer the question posed in the thread title; No, this is not the same as linking to the adult forum. Thanks for asking though.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=27830 (here's the review for the few of you that might have accidently missed it)
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I'm confused. Is there nudity on the main reviews page? I don't want to ever check dvdtalk at work if this is the case.
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The topic is being discussed in other forums where most members have no issue with the pictures (other than asking me to post more of them in the review) but to answer the question posed in the thread title; No, this is not the same as linking to the adult forum. Thanks for asking though.
What a blatant mischaracterization of the responses in that thread. Take off your porn loving glasses and read it again.

While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are ) as many or more expressed issues with the review being in normal circulation rather than being in the adult review circulation. i.e. with the add showing up outside of the adult forum during day time hours, and people thus not expecting any nudity in the review given when and where the ad was showing up.

The following people all made similar such comments/agreed with other such suggestions of either not having nudity in reviews or at least keeping those ads in the adult circulation if nudity was to be allowed at least once in that thread:

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Lunatikk
Maxflier
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Ravyn
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Josh Hinkle

As for myself. I have no problem with nudity in playboy and other adult titles. I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation. Playboy titles should be in the adult review rotation period and especially if the reviews are going to have nudity in them.
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My main issue would be that the "DVD Reviews" link at the top of the forum has been touted as a link to a "Safe For Work" review page. Throwing a review in there with images of nudity seems to invalidate that.
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My main issue would be that the "DVD Reviews" link at the top of the forum has been touted as a link to a "Safe For Work" review page. Throwing a review in there with images of nudity seems to invalidate that.
Exactly. Just put the reviews in the adult rotations to avoid this problem and I have no problem with nudity in them.
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Old 05-12-07 | 03:40 PM
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Agreed. Keep the adult content in the adult forum. Pretty simple.
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Old 05-12-07 | 04:30 PM
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The content of the 3 disc set is represented perfectly by the relatively tame pictures contained in the review.
Don, if you think those pics are tame, you've really been watching too much porn!

They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history. Just a little common sense should tell you that pics of boobs and bush (or lack of bush in this case) is not something that should be in general worksafe rotation.
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I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation.
Well, "porn loving glasses" or not, the links to ALL the reviews, including the explicit covers of porn, can be found on the main review page that is accessed straight from the front page when you click the "DVD" button on the upper left hand side of the front page (ie: you don't need to click the "Adult" button to gain access to the far more explicit covers). The link is: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/index.php where the third section is the porn coverage. While not always the case, I have happened upon a number of covers there that included all the usual body parts one would expect of a porno, so there is no precedent for any separation of the adult coverage. (you can also gain access to the adult material by clicking on the generic "Reviews" button on the top of the front page)

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While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are...
Oh common; there are pervs in all the forums from what I've seen posted by a few of you. Besides, the ORIGINAL thread talking about the title, you remember, the one in the REVIEWS section where people talk about issues with REVIEWS, mentioned no issues with the nudity (just my run on sentence). This thread was titled in such a way to be misleading but was not getting much attention for the last week until I stepped up to the plate (I have no problem exploring both sides of an issue via discussion). I find it curious that you keep referring to the review as an "ad" but then I also find it curious that some make repeated claims about DVD Talk reviews being safe for work or for children too. (see my quote)

Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
The following people...
(clipped list)
Well, if we're going to start listing people that either have expressed a desire for such pics, have no problem with them, or merely expressed surprise at them and DID NOT say they were against them, we should probably be looking at all three threads relating to the topic rather than make sweeping statements about mischaracterizing discussions:
Dvsoman
darkside
Houstondon
McHawkson
Norml56401
Ravyn
Bigjim25
NCMojo
Michael Ballack
Wildo1966
TomOpus
Demontooth
Giantrobo
Chubacabra
Suprmallet
Beelinetoohive
Adam Tyner
Numanoid

Considering that the review is currently at the top of the mainstream list and has been for most of the week, I don't see the mass uprising some have suggested. My experience is that if people are offended or upset, they are MUCH more likely to speak up than when they are happy. Your personal mileage may vary but that is based on my observations.

Originally Posted by NBT
Pretty simple
Amazon sells the title so it is fair game for the mainstream section. The boxed set is for a reality TV show of three Playboy Playmates with some tasteful nudity. There was no explicit sexual activity and the review reflects what is in the three disc set.

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They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history.
So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe".
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Old 05-12-07 | 05:52 PM
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So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe".
Geoff posted this back in August:

Originally Posted by gkleinman
There are many links on the site, front page and forum which will lead you to a Safe For Work Review Page:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/list....Type=DVD+Video

We treat adult DVDs the same as mainstream. Do not descriminate against them for content.
The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
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Geoff posted this back in August:



The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
Thank you. I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
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Originally Posted by Houstondon
Amazon sells the title so it is fair game for the mainstream section. The boxed set is for a reality TV show of three Playboy Playmates with some tasteful nudity. There was no explicit sexual activity and the review reflects what is in the three disc set.
Amazon doesn't have nude pictures on their page for the title though. That is the main issue here.

I'd prefer not to have these titles show up in the adult section period, but if they are going to then the pages they link should at least be work safe and not have nude pictures.

It's one or the other IMO. Ads for review in full rotations for these "amazon carries them" adult titles=no nude shots in the review. Or have nude shots in the reviews and keep the ads in the adult rotation.


Originally Posted by Houstondon
So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe".
Yes, those adult reviews should not come up in the main dvd review page. Their should be seperate portions of the site for DVD reviews and Adult DVD reviews IMO.

People should be able to go to the DVD reviews page and not have to worry about getting porn covers on their screen when they want to check a review at work, or while their kids are around etc.
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The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
Exactly.

Geoff needs to get in here and clarify this.

Either the playboy review is inappropriate to his desires as quoted above, or he's changed his view on this and needs to let us no so people who don't want that type of content popping up can just avoid the review section all together.
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The Playboy review shows up in that section, with images that are decidedly not work safe. Nobody is saying that DVD Talk should be entirely work safe, we're just saying that there is an area that has been deemed as being work-safe and the images in the review don't meet that standard.
I suggest the three of you are reading more into the statement than was intended. G! was referring to the COVERS of the review titles, not the content of one of the 600+ "Mature" reviews that can be found with a cursory search.

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Yes, those adult reviews should not come up in the main dvd review page. Their should be seperate portions of the site for DVD reviews and Adult DVD reviews IMO.
Yes, we know what your opinion is considering your comments FOR YEARS about adult content and mature covers (in fairness, while we disagree, I'd be the first one to defend your ability to rant about anything potentially offensive even when you've repeatedly been told that this is how it is). At this writing, the latest issue of the porn-filled Blue Room column is front and center of the front page; the reviews button goes to a page NSFW, and some "mature" titles sold by Amazon have covers you find offensive. Time and again, G! has tried to placate the vocal minority that time and again prove to find fault with every decision. By all means, take Adam's advice (my new signature while I thoroughly researched related topics) and disable pictures on your browser to protect yourself.

Oh, and just in case you haven't paid attention in the past, if/when G! jumps in the thread; he'll put his final say on the matter up and lock the thread if the past is any indicator. I had planned to remove the pictures until someone started trying to mischaracterize my comments and list names in a virtual pissing match. I may still do so (if I can't get a "spoiler" button to accomodate folks) but considering your past comments, I find it unlikely that you'd have "standing" in the matter since the word "Playboy" appears in the title (as well as your past comments that you have little use for our reviews). Still, I'll be more cognizant that some of you, however few, will resist any adult content on the website and minimize the issues you raise by my own consideration of your feelings.
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I have no problem at all with adult content on this site.

I just think it should be clearly seperated. We have an adult forum, and all adult posts go there.

I don't see why Geoff can't spend a little time reorganizing so that all the adult reviews and adult columns are in their own section.

Seems like a win-win for me. The adult content is all in one place and easy to find for those that want to peruse it. And those that don't want it popping up at work or whatever can freely read all the reviews etc. on the site with out worrying about it.

I'm not sure why you're so against having the content clearly seperated. What's the big deal about having one link to "DVD Reviews" and another to "Adult DVD reviews"???

Again, it's better organized and should kill all the bitching.
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Old 05-12-07 | 09:43 PM
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So you'd be willing to agree that the adult covers plastered on the main review page would also appear in the browsing history would be just as work unsafe (ie: there is no claim that this website is going to be work safe)? I'm not taking a side over whether DVD Talk should be work safe or not but I find scant evidence to support the theory some of you are espousing about the concept of "work safe".
No, I don't think they should be there either. Like Josh, I think it'd be fairly easy to create an "adult dvd reviews" button, so you didn't have to mix them in with the regular reviews.

I know Gman says those DVD covers will stay put, but I don't see that as a good enough reason too add MORE porn stuff to normally non-porn sections of the site. When does it stop? I know porn brings in big $$$ to the site, so why don't you just pornify the whole damn thing? switch it to pornotalk.com and rake in the dough!
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What a blatant mischaracterization of the responses in that thread. Take off your porn loving glasses and read it again.

While many said they had no problems with the nudity (of course since you posted in the adult forum where all the pervs are ) as many or more expressed issues with the review being in normal circulation rather than being in the adult review circulation. i.e. with the add showing up outside of the adult forum during day time hours, and people thus not expecting any nudity in the review given when and where the ad was showing up.

The following people all made similar such comments/agreed with other such suggestions of either not having nudity in reviews or at least keeping those ads in the adult circulation if nudity was to be allowed at least once in that thread:

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Lunatikk
Maxflier
Groucho
Cultshock
Adam Tyner
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Ravyn
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Josh Hinkle

As for myself. I have no problem with nudity in playboy and other adult titles. I do have a problem with such ads being in the regular rotation. Playboy titles should be in the adult review rotation period and especially if the reviews are going to have nudity in them.


Josh.. First and foremost, do not add me to your misconceptions about the Playboy title "The Girls Next Door". The opinion which I offered was a compromised nothing else. I had and currently still do not have any problems with the Playboy title and I did not find the pictures offensive in any way shape or form.As a Adult reviewer ( Proud Perv!! ), the screenshots that were shown are very tame and I myself even enjoyed the tribute to Marilyn Monroe .The Playboy title "The Girls Next Door" is a reality show which as Don has explained many times is not part of the Adult Films and sold by Amazon. Playboy has been around for 50 years and I seriously doubt that you and others did not have a clue that their might have been some nudity.Why all the fuss about any adult content when there are far worst covers with blood , gore and guts on some horror cover that I have seen. If you ever took the time to read some of the adult reviews as you have pointed out and looked at some of the screen shot, there wouldnt be any need for continuing the topic All this pious moral back talk is a waste of time since you do not frequent the adult reviews as many others that do and those same people that enjoy our reviews even said that there were not enough pictures. Now that I have said my peace.. this Proud Perv/Writer will enjoy the rest of her night reviewing some adult titles .
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Again, it's better organized and should kill all the bitching.
"all the bitching" ?
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No, I don't think they should be there either. Like Josh, I think it'd be fairly easy to create an "adult dvd reviews" button, so you didn't have to mix them in with the regular reviews.

I know Gman says those DVD covers will stay put, but I don't see that as a good enough reason too add MORE porn stuff to normally non-porn sections of the site. When does it stop? I know porn brings in big $$$ to the site, so why don't you just pornify the whole damn thing? switch it to pornotalk.com and rake in the dough!
If you look there is a section made for Adult reviews. I dont see what the big deal is. None of the adult titles are mixed in with the mainstream titles.Again this goes back to the reality show The Girls Next Door.. (read previous thread I replied too). I really dont believe that the men are the ones making such a fuss over this.. and thats sad. You would honestly think it would be the ladies but its not.
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Don, if you think those pics are tame, you've really been watching too much porn!

They're enough to get someone fired if they show up in someone's browsing history. Just a little common sense should tell you that pics of boobs and bush (or lack of bush in this case) is not something that should be in general worksafe rotation.
Yes the pics are tame..

Question.. if you are at work why are you surfing the net? Work safe? Doesnt make any sense at all.. sorry but I know when I was at work full time they blocked access to the net so the temptation wouldnt be there and work would actually get done..
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"all the bitching" ?
Threads like this? All the not safe for work bitching threads that come up over the years?

Again, I don't see why it's not a reasonable compromise to have the adult reviews in their own section (still linked too from everywhere on this site) and to keep any reviews with nudity out of the regular review cover rotation or at the least flag them with a warning that there will be nudity on the review.
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It's not a moral issue for me, I'm in favor of seeing as many naked women as I can see. The issue is that that review section was said to be work safe and naked women are not.

Now Don thinks I'm misinterpreting that and maybe Geoff will step in and confirm that, but I always was under the impression that the "DVD Reviews" link up top was supposed to be a way to safeguard that I wouldn't run across any inappropriate content either at work or any time other people are around while I'm browsing.
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Question.. if you are at work why are you surfing the net? Work safe? Doesnt make any sense at all.. sorry but I know when I was at work full time they blocked access to the net so the temptation wouldnt be there and work would actually get done..
Sucks that you had lame jobs and couldn't surf the net.

I have a research job and can pretty much do what ever I want as long as I get my work done (salaried position rather than hourly).

And as it's a college network, there is nothing blocked.

Just because you couldn't surf at work doesn't mean that many don't, and also doesn't get at those who don't want such content popping up around their kids, or people who are just offended by it in general.
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