I agree. Not for nothing, but I very rarely notice who the OP is in the thread before I click it, so it wouldn't matter to me if he'd started all the threads on the front page. His threads are informative and sparking conversation. Where's the problem?

Why delete the Jamie Foxx Collection though? Is it cause he's black? Same for Batman: Gotham Knight(well he dresses in black anyway...) and the Great Debaters?


I'm kidding here (well mostly at least) but I do find it interesting these threads are deleted simply because the OP has already started other informative threads.
Oh well...

I feel I have to expound on my earlier post that read:

As The Bus wrote, it's not like these threads are vague or 3,295 threads about the same subject matter. Besides, Mao does a great job on that stickied thread, but we've had some interesting (at least I think so) conversation in the Xanadu thread that would clutter and be out of place in his thread.

As Ed and abrg923 said...it really shouldn't matter as long as there's a discussion going on.

So what is it going to be? Are those missing threads going to be reposted by the mods or do I have to start them again? Or are we going to be having these discussions every now and then?

You give X a hard time, but he's made it clear it's not a solo decision he's making. Simply because he's the one carrying the axe doesn't make him the one ordering the executions.

The mods have made it clear that they don't want you or anyone else controlling the front page of the forums. And they've also made it clear where new release information should go.

So yes, if you continue to ignore that, your threads will get nuked and if you keep arguing with them about it, I would expect that there will be other repercussions as well.

We're all guests here. You can either choose to follow the rules or choose to leave.

The problem is that the rule doesn't make any sense. I have started numerous threads for the past 4 years. So if anyone decided to bump 3 old threads I started making the total to 7 or 8 in the first page, will they be deleted or would I be suspended?

Like I said before, I'm not a rebel or want to cause any problem. I love DVDTalk and like the discussions in the forum and I know that I'm a guest in here. This is the feedback forum, where there is supposed to be a civil discussion about the ways of the forum and serves as a place to amend rules and see that there are situations that are not black and white. My situation is not black and white.

And I'm giving X a hard time because his tone was unnecesarily harsh towards me without any reason and he was the one that decided to make the cut. No other moderator or administrator has made any criticism or called my attention about this situation.

And by the way, the limit on threads posted in the first page still is an unwritten rule, since as of today, is not posted in the Forum Rules and Guidelines.

I'm not taking sides DX23, I've never had any issue with you personally, I'm just telling you my impressions of this situation, as I've seen it play out over the past few years with you. My personal belief on thread starters is that you should have something to contribute other than facts. Just posting a release date and features doesn't warrant a NEW thread. It should go into the main release thread.

However, if you wanted to post NCFOM's release info and post about how much you liked the movie, or talk about a special feature, or expand a little bit, then by all means. But just by posting release info, it does seem like you are trying to control the board discussion of those titles, which is what the mods are getting at.

The feedback forum is not a way to groundswell rule changes. It's a place to voice problems with the forum. I can't recall once in my 9 years here a single rule being changed due to the feedback forum (well, maybe the profanity one), but new features have been added from it.

Like I said, X has posted that he's not on some personal vendetta against you. He's said that the admins and mods have discussed the issue and decided to take certain action. Just because he's the face of the action doesn't mean that he's not supported.

It's important to realize that we are all here at the pleasure of the forum admins and mods. This place is more liberal than most. If the worst rule you've encountered is that you can't post 10 different release threads, then consider yourself lucky. Whether the rule is written or not, it's been communicated to you repeatedly. You can't say you aren't aware of it.

I disagree with you in the topic about what warrants a new thread or not. Even Mao, who is very respected in this forum, now post individual threads of the DVD releases, many times with little information about the specs, just a release date. To me, a release date, specs and any other information about a film that is being released on DVD and has some type of fanbase in the forum is reason enough to start a thread. That sparks a discussion about the release and helps us DVD fans to make a the best personal decision of whether to purchase the release or not.

As for the rule, my problem with it the way the don't see the gray area that exist in this. Two days ago there were 4 threads I started in the first page. Today one of the threads ran down its course but another one I created in October 2007 was bumped to the first page. So what then? The next one that is bumped is deleted? Am I suspended? banned?

That is the problem with the rule. And if other members don't see a problem with my threads and if they are sparking civil discussions, then, where is the problem?

I think it's stupid to dump any new release info into one big thread too. It's pretty much felt like there's an open thread for any big new or interesting release to discuss the release date, the features, quality, etc etc. It's been like that for years. And i know i've seen posts on new releases with nothing but "______ coming April 06, more details to follow."

This isn't like the issue where someone was posting a half dozen polls in the span of a couple hours. No one can help if their older threads get bumped. If I went and made a post in all the "What are you buying this week" threads to say "oh, that week I bought ______" would it get Rogue's thread's removed just because they're all on the front page? That's nonsensical.

I don't recall ever once reading the new release thread. I get all my info on upcoming releases from the individual threads which are usually made by Mao or dx#'s.

Your situation is quite black and white. You have no right to dominate a forum any more than any other person does.

I looked at the date/times of the new threads before I removed them to make sure that you posted those new threads after the ongoing ones were already on the first page of the forum. You obviously just didn't care about the rule that had been pointed out to you previously.

This is the same rule that applies to every other person in the forum. Since you posted your last thread in this forum complaining about why you should get an exemption to this long-existing rule I've pointed it out to perhaps two other people who got overly enthusiastic with their new threads. Those people, and every other person on this forum, has had no problem complying with it once it was brought to their attention. You seemed to understand as well since our last discussion of this matter.

Comments by current and former moderators and alternative means of making sure your important information got out there has been discussed previously as well. I am merging this thread with your previous one to make them easier for you to understand.

No is not. I'm not trying to dominate the forum or anything like it. Am I supposed to apologize for creating thread in which people actually discuss the topic? Am I supposed to control that other members don't bump old threads that I created so I don't get newer ones deleted?

You looked at the dates of the new ones, not the old ones. When I posted those 3 threads, only other 2 were active in the first page of the forum: The Xanadu thread and the Official Wrestling one, which it is almost a sticky since it never leaves the first page


The last thread was to created discuss the unwritten rule that you continously allude to. I created the second one to ask what happened to threads, unaware that I was violating the unwritten rule.

At least in this thread, the other moderator to have commented has been Mao, who I told him politely that although his idea was good, cramming all new releases and discussing it in one thread will be a complete clutter. Every other member who has posted in this thread has agreed with my point of view except you. And my other problem is that your snarky remark and attitude in your posts says a lot about you dictatorship problem.

QFT.

Funny, I've read all the posts that he's posted on this subject, and I thought he was extremely calm, friendly, and he definitely wasn't "complaining".

When I asked for my name change a while back, you said I was "bitching" about it. I was in no way bitching; we had fun in the name change thread in the "Other" forum and I don't know what all the threats of admin action was all about.

I don't understand that either. I don't think people start threads just so they can see their user name on the screen. They're posting because they want to get the word out about things or have a debate.

So should I take this as a reversal of the PM you sent me saying what a good job I've been doing under difficult circumstances and apologizing for your obsessive behavior in that matter?

This definitely seems like a personal vendetta. Did you bother to read all the posts in this thread from other users about how silly it's being?

Nobody's "dominating" the forum, or even trying to. His topics are generating discussion, which is the point of starting a thread - and Mao does the same thing, in terms of starting a thread with "DVD A is being released on 6/27, more details to come". They're conversation-starters.

This is just being completely ridiculous. It's not like he's spamming the place.

Nice how you replied to that comment in an attempt to humiliate him, instead of addressing the other legitimate concerns.

This is just enforcing the same rule that applies to every other person. What the threads are about or their worth or lack of worth is not the issue, it's simply the issue of driving other people's equally worthwhile threads off the front page of a forum. This method of handling that problem that we've had in the past has worked just fine since its inception.

Are you also still bitter about not getting a name change due to our rules? I'm sorry you couldn't be accommodated.

Again, completely irrelevant to the situation. Perhaps you need a lesson in how to be a proper Admin, since a good forum administrator doesn't go around trying to humiliate its members when they bring up a good point.

And again, you're not reading, or even considering the point that in this instance, there is not a problem. His threads are generating discussion that others are interested in...that should be the bottom line. The "worth" of the threads should absolutely be the issue. If this guy is creating threads that nobody responds to, nobody discusses, and so on, they should absolutely be removed. But you're turning a blind eye to that, because it doesn't fit into your little "forum dictator" mentality that others are clearly beginning to notice.

I'm afraid I wasn't the one who brought up the completely irrelevant issue but I wanted to respond to it since it was totally contrary to the PM I had received.

If I wanted to "humiliate" with my response I probably would have just posted the PM.

I ask again, am I supposed to control that other members don't bump old threads that I created so I don't get newer ones deleted?

Edit: I have yet seen another administrator or moderator complain publicly about this.

Simply don't create new threads when old ones of yours are currently bumped up. You have control of that part.

We understand that you don't have any say if people bump up your old threads with new discussion and they appear on the first page of a forum.

Really? You're not even going to take the opinions of the members into account on this?

Perhaps we should go to Internet Brands over the situation. This is absurd, and a complete abuse of power, in my honest opinion.

And you DID bring up the "completely irrelevant issue", considering I never once mentioned a name change, and you accused me of "being bitter" over it.

I really wish you stopped talking about "WE" because no one else but you seem to be having an issue with my posting. I really doubt that anyone else in the forum has felt the cohibited to start a thread because of me. And if a topic falls out the first page but people are interested in it, sooner or later it will resurface. That is the way it has been here always. No topic of real interest gets overshawdow.

If there is someone discouraging here of member participation is you.