DAMN YOU!

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My late chime in....

I don't have a problem with Racial Jokes based on stereotypes. Hell, Ithink they're funny most of the time and I don't care what race it is. If we can't laugh about shit like that then what's the point. No group should be "exempted" from this because most of the time it's just silly stuff.

However, when people are accused of racism because they dare to criticize a group for something that they're clearly doing in a specific situation, i.e. Blacks and High Crime, Latinos and illegal immigration, whites and class/racial biases, then that becomes a tricky thing. Just because you call someone out on something that doesn't necessarily make them racist. Calling a person racist in this situation is often an easy way to divert attention from the real issues.

I'll admit that sometime when topics about Blacks in terms of crime, Cop abuses, and other controversial issues come up I've had to put aside my knee jerk reactions and just stick to the topic at hand. I realize some of the stuff being said has nothing to do with racism.

I miss the days of "subtle" racism in the forum. :(

Wow i couldn't imagine how he'd feel if he went to where i post at aintitcool, nazi youths, kkk members, the works in there.

sounds like a lurvely place.

What's the origin of that? It's hilarious.

Check out thread 11:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=442634

I fail to see the racism in his comment.

It sounds to me like the post is saying that gangsta rappers are an insult to the legacy of an honored civil rights activist. To me, that's nothing close to a racist statement.

lmao i agree.

Exactly. Imagine if you had lived fifty years or so ago and had fought for equal rights for blacks. Then imagine looking at today's black youth and everything associated with it. It must be heart-rending.

It may not be racist but it sure is wrong. People like Rosa Parks fought for the rights of African Americans. What people do with those rights has nothing to do with it.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. To equate black youth with "gangster rappers" is absurd.

I think he was just saying that blacks fighting for rights 50 years ago would be ashamed to see the proportion of young blacks that are involved in crime, gangs etc (higher proportion than any other race in this country), as well as the good kids who dress and act like they are gang bangers even if they are not.

I don't think he was equating that all black youth fall into those two categories.

Josh is right. I wasn't at all equating black youth with gangster rappers, but this is the perception perpetuated by the media. Think of what an average person associates with black youth. Sure, it's a media creation, but the black community embraces it. Certainly they're not up in arms about it.

Okay, I guess I can see where you're going with that. Still, I hardly think you can argue that the black community, as a whole, embraces this.

No, of course not. But it's pretty easy to argue that the civil rights activists would be heartbroken to see that so many blacks have bought into that lifestyle (or posing as that lifestyle) and that the media has subseuently widely adopted and perpetuated that stereotype of black youths.

Which was his original point.

The point is that is racist on itself. You say that a large portion of black youth have done something bad to be ashamed of. Thats racist, you don't know that.

Bullshit. I'm a criminologist. Over half the US prison population is black. Blacks are over represented in crime. It's not due to race, but to their social status and location in live (over concentrated in poor urban areas).

Are most blacks criminals and gangbangers. Of course not. But it is a larger percentage of their population than of any other racial group in the U.S.

So a large percentage of them do have something they should be ashamed of, as do all the rappers making millions dressing and acting like gang bangers (a lot of them didn't grow up on the street) and inspiring young black youth to do the same.

It's not racist. It's just a factual observation about a segment of black society. There's no implication that this occurs because they are black, or that all blacks fit that mold.

But it's clear that the civil rights activists would be damn ashamed of that segment of their racial group today and the setbacks they are bringing on racial relations.

I completely agree. When people try and speak to this issue, they are labeled racist/biased, etc. I think in the coming decades there will be an even more visible split amongst economic lines. I KNOW that if you group a large segment of poor, less educated people with limited opportunities into a densly populated area, it is a recipe for increased crime. Just look at any urban study on crime. You stack the deck against them, and then expect them to pull themselves up? It isn't a white/black issue, it is one of economic inequality mixed with an inflated sense of entitlement.

-p

No one has brought up our new member who posts links to neo-nazi websites and tries to explain why White Pride has adopted Hitler as a symbol and the 'kosher tax'?

He was staying within the forum rules by arguing for white separatism rather than making racist comments. I saw nothing in his posts that I would report to a moderator. And from the moderator intervention on the Scotsman comment, I suspect that the mods were watching pretty closely anyway.

Are you okay? You don't think arguing for white separatism is racist?

I dont think its racist at all. It seems like its okay for everyone else to have their own thing going on..but when white people want it its 'racist'. Thats getting pretty old I must say.

If someone is on here telling 'fried chicken' jokes and saying that jews own the world or something like that, then thats pretty racist (and idiotic)...but I would love to know why whites are always demonized when they stand up for themselves and its only okay for all other races to do so?