Closing a firearms-related thread
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Closing a firearms-related thread
I couldn't help but notice that a firearms-related thread:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=370010
was closed just a few minutes ago, with the following provided reason:
The only forum rule that even mentions firearms at all is:
This rule, as interpreted literally, certainly does not prohibit discussions about firearms.
Here is just a short list of firearms-related threads in Other that have not been closed:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...highlight=guns
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...highlight=guns
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...highlight=guns
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
and no doubt several others. I did not find a single thread closed for the reason cited in this most recent thread.
Obviously, it is at Geoff's discretion what the rules are and are not here as he owns the board, but if discussions related to firearms are going to be prohibited, I suggest that the forum rules be updated accordingly.
I'd hate to be suspended just because I want to talk about shooting skeet.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=370010
was closed just a few minutes ago, with the following provided reason:
Closing threads. DVD Talk isn't the place to discuss guns or ammo.
Posting links or information about where to purchase or sell drugs, guns or ammunition.
Here is just a short list of firearms-related threads in Other that have not been closed:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...highlight=guns
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...highlight=guns
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...highlight=guns
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=glock
and no doubt several others. I did not find a single thread closed for the reason cited in this most recent thread.
Obviously, it is at Geoff's discretion what the rules are and are not here as he owns the board, but if discussions related to firearms are going to be prohibited, I suggest that the forum rules be updated accordingly.
I'd hate to be suspended just because I want to talk about shooting skeet.
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It's not selective inforcement. The thread I closed was pointed out to me and I closed it.
Honestly, this isn't Gun Talk and I'm sure those of you who wish to discuss guns can find a nice place elsewhere to do that.
Honestly, this isn't Gun Talk and I'm sure those of you who wish to discuss guns can find a nice place elsewhere to do that.
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Originally posted by gkleinman
It's not selective inforcement. The thread I closed was pointed out to me and I closed it.
Honestly, this isn't Gun Talk and I'm sure those of you who wish to discuss guns can find a nice place elsewhere to do that.
It's not selective inforcement. The thread I closed was pointed out to me and I closed it.
Honestly, this isn't Gun Talk and I'm sure those of you who wish to discuss guns can find a nice place elsewhere to do that.
I feel that DVD Talk is a community, and I like talking to other members of this community about various things besides DVDs, including politics, religion, books, guns, anime, weird pictures, or nothing at all...
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Originally posted by gkleinman
It's not selective inforcement. The thread I closed was pointed out to me and I closed it.
Honestly, this isn't Gun Talk and I'm sure those of you who wish to discuss guns can find a nice place elsewhere to do that.
It's not selective inforcement. The thread I closed was pointed out to me and I closed it.
Honestly, this isn't Gun Talk and I'm sure those of you who wish to discuss guns can find a nice place elsewhere to do that.
I was just seeking some clarification. Is every "gun owners/would-be gun owners talking about guns" discussion prohibited in Other from now on?
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So the gun threads are off-limits.
I don't have a problem with the pissing matches about the issues of the drug war.
I do have a problem with threads that goes in specifics of illegal drug use and pricing. Guess I will point those out to Geoff/mods in the future and will expect the same treatment towards those threads.
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And there have been several threads about drugs and drug use.
And there have been several threads about drugs and drug use.
I do have a problem with threads that goes in specifics of illegal drug use and pricing. Guess I will point those out to Geoff/mods in the future and will expect the same treatment towards those threads.
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I was going to post this thread, and use this as an example. My post was going to say, why was the shotgun thread bad but this one ok?
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...5&pagenumber=2
I realize there are plenty of other boards that focus on guns, I could name 2 that I am a member at, and obviously those could be better places to go for extremely detailed questions and discussions. But at the same time, responsible gun ownership is pretty popular, mainly in the US but in other countries too, and as long as the discussion stays civil and only talking about legal uses I would like to see them stay open. I see them as a way to share information about something I enjoy with people who are curious or new to it.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...5&pagenumber=2
I realize there are plenty of other boards that focus on guns, I could name 2 that I am a member at, and obviously those could be better places to go for extremely detailed questions and discussions. But at the same time, responsible gun ownership is pretty popular, mainly in the US but in other countries too, and as long as the discussion stays civil and only talking about legal uses I would like to see them stay open. I see them as a way to share information about something I enjoy with people who are curious or new to it.
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It's funny, because it's seemed like the rules about gun threads have been loosened up lately. I seem to remember a time when all threads describing specific firearms or ammo were closed. Threads just discussing gun laws remained open.
I have a theory about drug discussion threads. I believe there was a clause in a certain moderator's contract that required a loosening of the drug thread rules.
I have a theory about drug discussion threads. I believe there was a clause in a certain moderator's contract that required a loosening of the drug thread rules.
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Whats the big deal about discussing guns? How can they be more offensive than half of the disscussions in other and adult talk. They are legal for the most part and we have had discussions in the past about them. I just don't understand how someone could be offended, or have a problem on a discussion about shotguns.
Anyway not that big of a deal, I was just suprised that the thread was closed.
Anyway not that big of a deal, I was just suprised that the thread was closed.
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Here's my take. I hate guns. Period. So I have no problem with the discussion of policy, them in relation to the news, and current events. But when it comes to 'Hey lets talk about what kinds of guns to play with' or where do you buy your ammo or 'hey lets shoot something or blow something up'. It's just not the type of conversation I want on the forum which I am the owner.
It's horriably biased but if you look at most thigs on the forum, there are very very few things which I'm biased about. Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
There are so VERY few topics which aren't permitted here, and the population of people wanting to talk guns is small, so hopefully you all will just respect me on this.
It's horriably biased but if you look at most thigs on the forum, there are very very few things which I'm biased about. Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
There are so VERY few topics which aren't permitted here, and the population of people wanting to talk guns is small, so hopefully you all will just respect me on this.
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Originally posted by gkleinman
Here's my take. I hate guns. Period. So I have no problem with the discussion of policy, them in relation to the news, and current events. But when it comes to 'Hey lets talk about what kinds of guns to play with' or where do you buy your ammo or 'hey lets shoot something or blow something up'. It's just not the type of conversation I want on the forum which I am the owner.
It's horriably biased but if you look at most thigs on the forum, there are very very few things which I'm biased about. Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
There are so VERY few topics which aren't permitted here, and the population of people wanting to talk guns is small, so hopefully you all will just respect me on this.
Here's my take. I hate guns. Period. So I have no problem with the discussion of policy, them in relation to the news, and current events. But when it comes to 'Hey lets talk about what kinds of guns to play with' or where do you buy your ammo or 'hey lets shoot something or blow something up'. It's just not the type of conversation I want on the forum which I am the owner.
It's horriably biased but if you look at most thigs on the forum, there are very very few things which I'm biased about. Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
There are so VERY few topics which aren't permitted here, and the population of people wanting to talk guns is small, so hopefully you all will just respect me on this.
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I read the thread and genuinely it felt odd. Realized the "Guns and Ammo" talk seemed out of place here. I do not agree with Geoff on guns but it really stopped me to look at the thread. And I do not have a good reason why other than the feeling it engenders and the instinctual response that it seems wrong.
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Originally posted by gkleinman
Here's my take. I hate guns. Period. So I have no problem with the discussion of policy, them in relation to the news, and current events. But when it comes to 'Hey lets talk about what kinds of guns to play with' or where do you buy your ammo or 'hey lets shoot something or blow something up'. It's just not the type of conversation I want on the forum which I am the owner.
It's horriably biased but if you look at most thigs on the forum, there are very very few things which I'm biased about. Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
There are so VERY few topics which aren't permitted here, and the population of people wanting to talk guns is small, so hopefully you all will just respect me on this.
Here's my take. I hate guns. Period. So I have no problem with the discussion of policy, them in relation to the news, and current events. But when it comes to 'Hey lets talk about what kinds of guns to play with' or where do you buy your ammo or 'hey lets shoot something or blow something up'. It's just not the type of conversation I want on the forum which I am the owner.
It's horriably biased but if you look at most thigs on the forum, there are very very few things which I'm biased about. Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
There are so VERY few topics which aren't permitted here, and the population of people wanting to talk guns is small, so hopefully you all will just respect me on this.
I just hope that you do realize that not all gun owners are lunatic whack job 'gun nuts'. Millions of people are legitimate gun owners who enjoy them for a variety of reasons such as target/skeet/competition shooting, hunting, collecting or *gasp* dare I even say it...home, family and personal defense.
In any case, there are other places to discuss guns.
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Originally posted by Phil L.
I just hope that you do realize that not all gun owners are lunatic whack job 'gun nuts'. Millions of people are legitimate gun owners who enjoy them for a variety of reasons such as target/skeet/competition shooting, hunting, collecting or *gasp* dare I even say it...home, family and personal defense.
I just hope that you do realize that not all gun owners are lunatic whack job 'gun nuts'. Millions of people are legitimate gun owners who enjoy them for a variety of reasons such as target/skeet/competition shooting, hunting, collecting or *gasp* dare I even say it...home, family and personal defense.
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I've never understood people who hate guns, instead of the people who misuse the gun...
Oh well, this is your forum, c'est la vie...
Oh well, this is your forum, c'est la vie...
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Originally posted by chanster
I don't know I thought there was a weird vibe coming from that specific thread about guns too. Maybe it was just me but whatever
I don't know I thought there was a weird vibe coming from that specific thread about guns too. Maybe it was just me but whatever
Look lets just try not to have threads that the only point is to drool over guns. Other discussion about policy or issues should be fine, right Geoff?
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Originally posted by gkleinman
Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.
Most (if not all) the OTHER forum mods are conservatives and I like that balance. I'm happy to have a good mix of views.