Buford T Pusser

I started this thread in Other:

Lesbian sells virginity on the internet for $15K. Would you?

warning: thread now brings you to Mature-

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=354965


Just trying to figure out what caused the move to Mature. Since it took 14 hours I was wondering where/when it crossed the line?

Was it the word "lesbian" in the title? I thought I had a handle on what was Mature-I recall one of the criteria being something that people would not want to accidentally click on at work. I believe the title was a clear indicator of the subject matter and I didn't post anything lewd in the thread.

I don't think I've had a thread moved from Other to Mature in many months as I'm trying not to make more work for the MODS.

Thanks.



I did a search and here's some other virgin-related threads that stayed in Other-a few more prurient that others.


Legalities - 15yr-old boy gets 19yr-old girl pregnant...

If you could tap the a** of anybody in history...

Girls for Sale

Pledging Abstinence Doesn't Protect Teens From STDs

eBay: 28 YEAR OLD MALE WILL TAKE YOUR VIRGINITY

Teen (18) Appeals 10-Year Sentence For Sex With Classicman (15)

Is premarital sex unhealthy?

Superman and sex... Mature? but not Immature...

Survey: "Americans make love an average of 118 times a year"

Was your Partner's Sexual History ever an Issue ?

Britney is NOT a virgin - OFFICIAL

So...after you've "had" the 70th Virgin.

Reports On Teen Sex May Surprise Parents

Bush Getting Close to Winning His Arctic Oil Drilling Measure in Congress

What age did you lose your virginity

Otter help - Know any Virgin's? (not mature)

Timberlake and spears back together. Spears ain't a virgin any more (imdb artical)

would you ever marry an adult movie star?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/search....der=descending

Groucho

What pissed me off is that thread was moved as I was trying to reply to it, resulting in an unexpected screen full of boobies.

I've suggested this before, but perhaps a thread should be locked in Other, and then copied into the Mature forum. If that's possible.

Ranger

Shall I start a thread on people complaining about gray-area thread-moving-decisions?

Mods: Yes!!!

Buford T Pusser

Where was I complaining and bitching? I'd just like to know why it happened so I can better serve the community.

WhoGirl

Why isn't this in Mature? I opened this thread and was bombarded by such unsavory words as "Lesbian" and "Virginity." After which I had to have a long discussion with my parents about the birds and the bees, and the birds and the birds.

My mommy says I'm going to Hell for even saying the word "Lesbian" when I was questioning it's meaning. Then when she asked me where I learned that word, I told her I learned it from my Sex-Ed teacher, and now she's suing the school district.

The moral: Hot Girl-on-Girl rug-munching lesbo sex discussions probably belong in Mature so my pure-as-snow eyes can't read them unless I open the forum, which I do. Every day. Three times a day. Sometimes alone. At night. When no one is around.


I have to go now. I have to... err... not look at porn.

POWERBOMB

The Mods saw you were the thread starter and automatically believed you place your thread in the wrong forum.

Mopower

I am deeply offended by the words "lesbian" "virginity" and "hot girl-on -girl". So offended i think Im going to get off........this thread.

Bushdog

Well, why have a feedback forum if people can't raise questions?

Buford T Pusser

strong agreement.


I started the thread because this happened a few times many months ago and I asked the question in the particular threads. I would never receive a response. (not that this one seemed to get any response either )


For all the joy I bring to many of the people around here, as well as my positive upbeat, helpful nature that never attacks fellow members, you'd think I'd get a tiny bit of respect. (see sig for just two of the many kudos from our esteemed brethren)

POWERBOMB

I have some extra buns in this Burger King bag if you'd like to kiss'em.

Blade

You've been around long enough to know that the moderators don't get to every thread posted on the boards. The question is never "why did YOU moderators move MY thread when these weren't?" because it wasn't personal, they just saw the thread and thought it belonged somewhere else. If you think another thread that was similar to yours is in the wrong place, then report it to a mod and they'll take action if they think it necessary. Add to this that not all mods will interpret the rules exactly the same and there will be some variation in the application of rules. That's just the nature of the beast.

As for your thread, you were asking people to discuss whether they'd prostitute themselves online...that seems like a valid move to mature to me. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Lastly, this seems more like a "why are you picking on me" post than a "I'm trying to understand the general forum rules here" post. I could of course be reading this wrong, but I'm just saying what it sounds like to me. I'm not saying you do or don't have a valid point either, but you also know that the mods here rarely discuss actions taken against a specific member in the forum. You probably would have been better off taking this to email.

Just my 2 cents.

LurkerDan

I think it was a perfectly valid question. And laying it on "the mods don't see everything" while true is a cop-out. "If you could tap the a** of anybody in history..." was up there for a while. I saw that and wondered why the hell that was sitting there. Yes, I know, I could report it, but I didn't because I didn't really care about it. But knowing the standards, I did wonder how that could stay sitting in Other.

I think "you should take this to email" is sometimes an appropriate response. But even if Buford DID post this because he thought it was personal, it is still a valid public question: why was this thread moved? What if I asked it? because it was not "my" thread, it would be valid here, but it isn't valid for Buford to ask the same question? That doesn't seem right...

benedict

Although you too might ask the question via email....

LurkerDan

of course I could, every question here in feedback could have been asked via email. My point was that nobody would have suggested that I should have taken it to email if I asked about a thread that I didn't start.

As Bushdog pointed out, why have a feedback forum if people can't raise questions?

Blade

It doesn't seem right because that's not what I said. If it wasn't a personal question, then yes it's perfectly valid and similar to if you had asked it. But I was positing that if it were being taken personally, then email would be better...and in the context of my hypothetical, that is right.

As for the "mods don't see everything" I didn't just say that, I also mentioned that different mods will have different takes because a lot of this is a judgement call. And one that involves taking into consideration not just the title, but the content, the person posting the thread, even just the general slant of threads being posted in Other at any given time.

"Tap the a**" seems pretty borderline to me too, but more because of the swearing, than the topic. I didn't read the thread, but just going by the thread title, it sounds like it's simply asking who in history you would like to have sex with. Assuming it didn't start going into graphic details about what kind of sex they wanted to have, that seems innocuous enough for Other.

If that all seems a little too arbitrary, I sympathize and agree, but ultimately, that's the nature of the beast. I personally don't find it "too" arbitrary, and I think the majority of the members agree or there would be more complaints or more people leaving. The fact remains that the current set of moderators have to set the level of discourse in the forums they moderate, and it's not an exact science. I think these kinds of threads are great things in general because ultimately, everything is done in the hopes of creating an enjoyable experience for the majority of visitors (so, of course, the site can turn a profit). But when they get involved with borderline stuff like this, I tend to think people should just let these kinds of things go.

But, again, that's just my opinion.

(edited to correct the spelling of "sypathize," and, thereby, make the other spelling errors I didn't catch look even worse. )

LurkerDan

:blade:

Damn, still doesn't work.

Blade

Buford T Pusser

I think LurkerDan made some good points.



I really wasn't asking this because I was taking it personal. Yes I've taken it personal in the past when some of my threads were moved to Mature, but it wasn't that way with this one.

I've been told that in the past my threads were moved because I was the person that started it and they thought I was hoping it would become Mature, and I'm pushing the boundaries, etc. Maybe I'm wrong but I think I've been pretty good about starting anything I thought was Mature in Mature for quite some time. But I know that once people form an opinion they tend to hang onto it or let it color their perception.

I knew I'd seen several other eBay virgin type threads in Other in the past that stayed in Other. Plus I knew there were many examples that I felt were on par or worse that were anchored in Other such as the examples I posted at the beginning of this thread. That's why I wanted to know why it moved.

As I said, it didn't make me mad that it was moved, but I noticed several people complaining about the move while they were posting and I really did want to know what changed it to Mature. I still haven't heard the exact reason or did I miss it?

The tap the a** thread was one that I was surprised to see in Other-I think the phrase is sorta crude (coming from me you say?) but sorta funny. Still it seemed to stick out in Other. Heck-I didn't even post in that one so that says something about my ambivalence toward its appearance in that forum.

Buford T Pusser

I just reread the examples in my first post that I thought were on par or raunchier than my thread and I don't think I posted in any of them. Not sure what that means but anyway...

Blade

I don't think there's an "exact" reason on judgement calls like this. I think I pretty much covered all the likely reasons on this one.

It's also a fairly common and often asked question (why was this thread moved when this other similar/worse thread wasn't), which would probably explain the lack of moderator response to your thread.

LurkerDan

Funny thing: weren't there 2 other threads on this very same subject that were in Other? http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=343453 http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=343253

Buford T Pusser

At the beginning I posted some similar threads that stayed in Other. The search turned up one of those, but not the other.


These threads are why I was trying to figure out what was different about the one I started so I'd know what happened to change things.

It seems the sentiment is that it's the luck of the draw although no actual mods have posted any responses. But I'm pretty sure Blade was a mod. Correct?