Warning scream before entering the Mature forum? Is this possible?
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A warning screen is technically unfeasable and while I want to accomidate the needs of those of you who want to avoid the mature area I don't want to do that at the expense fo those of you who want easy access to the mature area.
#52
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Originally posted by gkleinman
A warning screen is technically unfeasable and while I want to accomidate the needs of those of you who want to avoid the mature area I don't want to do that at the expense fo those of you who want easy access to the mature area.
A warning screen is technically unfeasable and while I want to accomidate the needs of those of you who want to avoid the mature area I don't want to do that at the expense fo those of you who want easy access to the mature area.
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How about moving it's location in the drop down list and adding spacers around it ? Still gives easy access but makes accidental slips of when someone is trying to get to other or sports talk less possible since it would be somewhat isolated from the other links.
#55
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Originally posted by gkleinman
and that the adut ads which do appear at night are PG or PG-13 rated with no graphic displays of sex or sexual activity.
and that the adut ads which do appear at night are PG or PG-13 rated with no graphic displays of sex or sexual activity.
http://ads.kleinman.com/ads/dvdempir...rchase_728.jpg
That's PG-13?
#56
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
Response to solutions 1 & 3: So everyone else who doesn't want accidental racy images on their screen at work needs to go back out to the main page, only to come back in through another link? Also, this still doesn't solve the problem of accidentally having the drop-down menu active and landing on mature when trying to scroll with your mouse.
Response to solutions 1 & 3: So everyone else who doesn't want accidental racy images on their screen at work needs to go back out to the main page, only to come back in through another link? Also, this still doesn't solve the problem of accidentally having the drop-down menu active and landing on mature when trying to scroll with your mouse.
Someone who wants to keep their browsing work/family-safe has to click an extra link (to the front page) every time they want to switch forums?
Additionally, the accidental scrolling through the drop down menu actually happens a lot to me, so that it a legitimate concern that has not been currently addressed.
Originally posted by El Scorcho
Response to solution 2: There are a ton of us who don't want more stuff installed on our computer, especially in the form of a toolbar. Most people hate toolbars.
Response to solution 2: There are a ton of us who don't want more stuff installed on our computer, especially in the form of a toolbar. Most people hate toolbars.
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Here's my proposed solution which requires a small amount of compromise on each side, but ultimately, I believe, addresses the concerns of all parties, while being technically feasible.
Geoff should create a static HTML page, say www.dvdtalk.com/mature.html
This page has non-adult banner ads (if he wants), and a big link in the middle that says "Warning! You are about to enter the Mature Forum! Please click here to continue if you are over 18!" And that link goes to the <a href="http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=32">Mature Forum</a>.
The drop-down menu on the front page, as well as top drop-down menu on all pages should contain a "Mature" line that links to the mature.html warning page.
The bottom drop-down menu on every forum page is auto-generated by the forum software, so it will still contain a "live" link to the <a href="http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=32">Mature Forum</a>, and this cannot be technically avoided at this point.
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Here's how it addresses everyone's concerns.
Geoff and Mature surfers:
Pros: Mature is still an easily accessible link in every drop-down menu on every page on the site.
Compromise: Mature links from the top drop-down menu require an extra click to get to the forum. However, the bottom drop-down menu is a direct link.
Work/Family-safe surfers:
Pros: If you accidentally click on Mature or accidentally auto-scroll to it in the top menu, you will get the warning screen first.
Compromise: You may accidentally go straight to the Mature forum if you use the bottom drop-down menu. Use only the top drop-down menu to be safe.
Also, you will go directly to the Mature forum if you click on the links in the <a href="http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/index.php?s=">Forum index page</a> or from sub-forum heading of the <a href="http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=9">Other Forum</a>. As I understand it, this is not as much a concern for people, as it is not as likely an accident to occur.
This also does not address if a thread gets moved from another forum into Mature, and you click on an old (or redirect) link. There's no easy technical solution to this.
Last edited by TheBang; 02-06-04 at 07:34 PM.
#57
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Originally posted by Todd B.
This also does not address if a thread gets moved from another forum into Mature, and you click on an old (or redirect) link. There's no easy technical solution to this.
This also does not address if a thread gets moved from another forum into Mature, and you click on an old (or redirect) link. There's no easy technical solution to this.
#58
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Originally posted by X
Actually, there is a relatively easy solution. Do a copy to Mature and a delete of the original thread.
Actually, there is a relatively easy solution. Do a copy to Mature and a delete of the original thread.
#59
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Originally posted by Todd B.
Ah, indeed. But isn't that such a hassle for the mods.
Ah, indeed. But isn't that such a hassle for the mods.
Of course there's AndyCapps' solution of just deleting it. Eventually that could also serve the purpose of discouraging the thread being in the wrong forum in the first place.
#60
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deleting threads probably won't work because someone will just recreate it thinking it disappeared and not realizing it was deleted for content.
I was not aware that the bottom pulldown menu was auto-generated. I guess you'd have to either remove it or just leave the mature link there. I don't think it'd be too big of a hassle to remove mature from the pull down menu on top.
I was not aware that the bottom pulldown menu was auto-generated. I guess you'd have to either remove it or just leave the mature link there. I don't think it'd be too big of a hassle to remove mature from the pull down menu on top.
#61
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I think the forum software has the capability to email the thread-starter whatever a mod deletes his thread. But if the thead was lengthy, and the user is not able to find it or copy it himself to repost it in the correct forum, there may be a problem.
But on the mature link- I am careful to not over-scroll when using the drop-down list. But sometimes, I've accidently gone to the mods' forum. How about a warning screen for that?
I don't think it's a big deal, if people are asking for the mature forum to have a warning screen which isn't possible, I guess, they might as well ask the same thing about the adult dvd reviews sections. I do think the adult sections of this forum are just a little too easy to access.
But on the mature link- I am careful to not over-scroll when using the drop-down list. But sometimes, I've accidently gone to the mods' forum. How about a warning screen for that?
I don't think it's a big deal, if people are asking for the mature forum to have a warning screen which isn't possible, I guess, they might as well ask the same thing about the adult dvd reviews sections. I do think the adult sections of this forum are just a little too easy to access.
#62
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Originally posted by Ranger
they might as well ask the same thing about the adult dvd reviews sections..
they might as well ask the same thing about the adult dvd reviews sections..
It's still and issue with the mouse scroll wheel problem, but it's so far down I usually realize I'm in the drop down before I scroll that far down the drop down menu.
But it's a fair point that it should be harder to access as well, at least from the point of view of some of us.
#63
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My browser had a tiny freeze (about a quarter second, probably) while I was trying to scroll to the sports forum and it put me into the mature forum.
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
#64
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
My browser had a tiny freeze (about a quarter second, probably) while I was trying to scroll to the sports forum and it put me into the mature forum.
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
My browser had a tiny freeze (about a quarter second, probably) while I was trying to scroll to the sports forum and it put me into the mature forum.
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
*resists urge to tell ES to kill himself over it already
#65
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It could be argued that the mature forum is just as popular (although I don't go there that often anymore) as the other two forums. While people can complain about one thing, what about the adult dvd empire link? It's right below the home button? Or the reviews section (some people DO go the the reviews section, Josh). So to be consistent on content, the forum would need an overhaul which I don't think anyone wants to go through.
#66
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
That would reduce accidental clicks, and I don't think it would be a burden at all on members wanting to access those areas as they'd still be in the drop downs.
#68
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Originally posted by El Scorcho
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
I'm not sure why this is something that can't be moved towards the bottom and has to be lodged between two popular forums on the drop down list above.
The accidental-mouse-wheeling-to-mature problem is more common than people think.
Between this problem and the very prominent link to adult DVD reviews on every screen, I will probably make a mistake and get in trouble at work someday.
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I had a mouse scroll do the same to me today.
I really don't see why this can't be changed.
I had a mouse scroll do the same to me today.
I really don't see why this can't be changed.
As far as I know, the only way to change its placement in the dropdown short of writing a custom hack would be to relocate the subforum's position globally. A subforum makes the most sense, as that makes it less prominent, but that'll always place it in close proximity to a popular forum. There's no getting around that. If Geoff breaks out the Mature subforum into a separate forum, people will complain that it's too prominent. If Geoff moves the subforum, people will complain that now it's too close to ______ forum instead.
A few possibilites:
1) Deleting the forum entirely: The least preferable solution, I'd imagine.
2) Making "Mature" a hidden forum that only users specifically granted access would be able to see: Time-consuming on the part of mods/admins, plus there would need to be some way for users to know this subforum exists...people won't request access if they don't know it exists, after all...and people would probably complain about whatever method there was of providing that sort of notification.
3) Making "Mature" a public forum that would be hidden to users specifically requesting not to see it: Dunno if this is technically feasible with the software, but this would seem to be the most attractive approach if it is. A new "user group" could be created that would be able to see most of the forums, but not "Mature". Users would have to be added manually, but I would think this would be a fairly small number, especially when compared to the moderation chores related to the previous approach. Static links/dropdowns would obviously still make reference to 'Mature'.
I can understand the problems with the mouse wheel...it's happened to me, but I don't care and neither does anyone else in my office. As for the "Adult DVD Video" link, I personally think that's a pretty silly complaint.
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I don't see a problem with just making it a normal forum, and thus then the link could be moved futher down the drop down list. Being a sub-forum is just a technicality IMO.
Not using the drop down is too much of a hassle, I'd quit viewing the whole site first.
Not using the drop down is too much of a hassle, I'd quit viewing the whole site first.