My post was deleted? Wow.
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My post was deleted? Wow.
I posted about my site having a "hot deal". 3 contests were going on, you could win a DVD, or two different posters. Granted, it was MY site that was having the deal, but how is that wrong? Do you want me to get someone else to post about it? It was just faster for me to post it. I find it very ignorant and arrogant for DVD Talk to delete my post just because it advertised my site; like you're saying "no cheap hits from us".
Many people have posted contests before in the Hot Deals fourm without deletion. I'd like an explination as to why someone is on a little power-trip.
Many people have posted contests before in the Hot Deals fourm without deletion. I'd like an explination as to why someone is on a little power-trip.
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Originally posted by das Monkey
While I like the rhyme, how is it ignorant?
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While I like the rhyme, how is it ignorant?
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I'm just ranting, I could care less what happens now.
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Re: My post was deleted? Wow.
Originally posted by effigy
I find it very ignorant and arrogant for DVD Talk to delete my post just because it advertised my site
I find it very ignorant and arrogant for DVD Talk to delete my post just because it advertised my site
• Spam or promotion of your personal site for advertising purposes
You find it ignorant that we enforce the rules? Have you never bothered to read them? Deleting the thread is mild compared to what usually happens to spammers.
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Oh what a great friendly site~!!~!
It was a contest, I wasn't advertising my site for the hell of it. I posted it in the hot deals because it is. Like I said, I could've gotten someone else to post about it, but I didn't waste the time.
You don't get it do you? I WASN'T ADVERTISING MY SITE. I was posting about the contest, and I said it jokingly because it was actually my site. Using common sense is a cool thing, try it.
I wasn't spamming. I was posting about a hot deal that I thought many here would be interested in signing up for. I AM offering it, yes - but WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE of me posting it, or someone with no connection to the site posting it? NONE, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
Try reading next time before you jump to conclusions.
Now, if I went into the other forum, or any fourm - and posted: "Check out my site! Yeaaaah!" Yes, that is spam - and is advertising my site for no reason. But instead, I was being nice - I posted about the giveaways we are having in the Hot deal fourms ONLY, thinking it would gain me points with some members here for giving away such items, but instead it gets deleted without even warning me.
I WAS advertising the HOT DEAL, not just the SITE, it wasn't for no reason, IT WASNT RANDOM, nor was it Spam. Good god.
Brutal rules. Ouch.
You don't get it do you? I WASN'T ADVERTISING MY SITE. I was posting about the contest, and I said it jokingly because it was actually my site. Using common sense is a cool thing, try it.
I wasn't spamming. I was posting about a hot deal that I thought many here would be interested in signing up for. I AM offering it, yes - but WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE of me posting it, or someone with no connection to the site posting it? NONE, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
Try reading next time before you jump to conclusions.
Now, if I went into the other forum, or any fourm - and posted: "Check out my site! Yeaaaah!" Yes, that is spam - and is advertising my site for no reason. But instead, I was being nice - I posted about the giveaways we are having in the Hot deal fourms ONLY, thinking it would gain me points with some members here for giving away such items, but instead it gets deleted without even warning me.
I WAS advertising the HOT DEAL, not just the SITE, it wasn't for no reason, IT WASNT RANDOM, nor was it Spam. Good god.
Brutal rules. Ouch.
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Re: Re: Oh what a great friendly site~!!~!
Originally posted by AndyCapps
You first.
You first.
Lets brainstorm.
3 Contests.
Win 2 Posters and a DVD.
"DVDTalk has a hot deals fourm, I bet people there would like this deal"
+ Me visiting DVDtalk.
= Me posting a deal in the hot deal forums meaning no harm at all.
I know I did something wrong, I just don't see it. Interesting.
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This thread is a good example of why we ask that you email moderators/admins about issues such as this instead of creating a thread about it. In this case, this thread is causing you to dig yourself a hole. Posting spam related to a site you own is generally an automatic ban. But since the staffer who caught it thought it must be a one-time lapse of judgment, we were discussing giving you a warning this time. See, you don't always get immediate feedback on forum issues, because we take the time to discuss them.
How was it spam? You were using DVDTalk's resources(which unfortunately aren't free) to promote your own personal site for free. Did you have something to gain by creating the thread? Yes, you increased the exposure of your site by posting about a "giveaway". When you ask yourself the question, "Do I have something to gain by posting this?" and the answer is Yes, it is spam. Whether it is a referral link you get paid for someone clicking, or you gain an increase in views for your site, it is spam.
Now this might not be a big deal if this site was run on someone's home machine using the DSL line they'd be paying for anyway. But the costs of this site are much greater than that, and a tiny percentage of those costs are offset by paid advertising. If all it takes to get around that is to offer a contest, why would anyone bother to pay for advertising? If it's ok for you to do it, why shouldn't it be ok for DeepDiscountDVD to do it?
You either pay for advertising, or you don't advertise here. Plain and simple. When you have something to gain(even if it is increased traffic to a site that you own) by a post, it is advertising, and it is against the rules.
How was it spam? You were using DVDTalk's resources(which unfortunately aren't free) to promote your own personal site for free. Did you have something to gain by creating the thread? Yes, you increased the exposure of your site by posting about a "giveaway". When you ask yourself the question, "Do I have something to gain by posting this?" and the answer is Yes, it is spam. Whether it is a referral link you get paid for someone clicking, or you gain an increase in views for your site, it is spam.
Now this might not be a big deal if this site was run on someone's home machine using the DSL line they'd be paying for anyway. But the costs of this site are much greater than that, and a tiny percentage of those costs are offset by paid advertising. If all it takes to get around that is to offer a contest, why would anyone bother to pay for advertising? If it's ok for you to do it, why shouldn't it be ok for DeepDiscountDVD to do it?
You either pay for advertising, or you don't advertise here. Plain and simple. When you have something to gain(even if it is increased traffic to a site that you own) by a post, it is advertising, and it is against the rules.
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Originally posted by AndyCapps
This thread is a good example of why we ask that you email moderators/admins about issues such as this instead of creating a thread about it. In this case, this thread is causing you to dig yourself a hole. Posting spam related to a site you own is generally an automatic ban. But since the staffer who caught it thought it must be a one-time lapse of judgment, we were discussing giving you a warning this time. See, you don't always get immediate feedback on forum issues, because we take the time to discuss them.
How was it spam? You were using DVDTalk's resources(which unfortunately aren't free) to promote your own personal site for free. Did you have something to gain by creating the thread? Yes, you increased the exposure of your site by posting about a "giveaway". When you ask yourself the question, "Do I have something to gain by posting this?" and the answer is Yes, it is spam. Whether it is a referral link you get paid for someone clicking, or you gain an increase in views for your site, it is spam.
Now this might not be a big deal if this site was run on someone's home machine using the DSL line they'd be paying for anyway. But the costs of this site are much greater than that, and a tiny percentage of those costs are offset by paid advertising. If all it takes to get around that is to offer a contest, why would anyone bother to pay for advertising? If it's ok for you to do it, why shouldn't it be ok for DeepDiscountDVD to do it?
You either pay for advertising, or you don't advertise here. Plain and simple. When you have something to gain(even if it is increased traffic to a site that you own) by a post, it is advertising, and it is against the rules.
This thread is a good example of why we ask that you email moderators/admins about issues such as this instead of creating a thread about it. In this case, this thread is causing you to dig yourself a hole. Posting spam related to a site you own is generally an automatic ban. But since the staffer who caught it thought it must be a one-time lapse of judgment, we were discussing giving you a warning this time. See, you don't always get immediate feedback on forum issues, because we take the time to discuss them.
How was it spam? You were using DVDTalk's resources(which unfortunately aren't free) to promote your own personal site for free. Did you have something to gain by creating the thread? Yes, you increased the exposure of your site by posting about a "giveaway". When you ask yourself the question, "Do I have something to gain by posting this?" and the answer is Yes, it is spam. Whether it is a referral link you get paid for someone clicking, or you gain an increase in views for your site, it is spam.
Now this might not be a big deal if this site was run on someone's home machine using the DSL line they'd be paying for anyway. But the costs of this site are much greater than that, and a tiny percentage of those costs are offset by paid advertising. If all it takes to get around that is to offer a contest, why would anyone bother to pay for advertising? If it's ok for you to do it, why shouldn't it be ok for DeepDiscountDVD to do it?
You either pay for advertising, or you don't advertise here. Plain and simple. When you have something to gain(even if it is increased traffic to a site that you own) by a post, it is advertising, and it is against the rules.
You see, the funny thing is - If I got someone who was no way connected to the site to post direct links to the contest, what would've happened? Probally nothing, right? Because he wouldn't be advertising his site, because it wouldn't be his. But so be it.
And to think we was actually considering paying for advertising on DVDTalk too.
Well, sorry for causing such a mess out of nothing at all. If you feel to place such strick rules on your own visitors, then so be it. Your site. Thanks for the appearent warning instead of banning, I assume.
Larry.
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Re: Oh what a great friendly site~!!~!
Originally posted by effigy
You don't get it do you? I WASN'T ADVERTISING MY SITE.
You don't get it do you? I WASN'T ADVERTISING MY SITE.
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Originally posted by effigy
I understand all of that, but you got the intent wrong. Yes, it could increase traffic, but the intent was to speak of a giveaway RW is having. However you see its, it doesn't matter now.
I understand all of that, but you got the intent wrong. Yes, it could increase traffic, but the intent was to speak of a giveaway RW is having. However you see its, it doesn't matter now.
Originally posted by effigy
And to think we was actually considering paying for advertising on DVDTalk too.
And to think we was actually considering paying for advertising on DVDTalk too.
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Re: Re: Oh what a great friendly site~!!~!
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Good. Then you won't have any problem with our removing THE BIG LINK TO YOUR SITE that was in your signature.
Good. Then you won't have any problem with our removing THE BIG LINK TO YOUR SITE that was in your signature.
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Originally posted by AndyCapps
You sure the intent wasn't to bring more people to your site who might possibly click on an Amazon banner containing a referral link? If you had good intentions, why did you mislead people into believing they could sign up for a free poster instead of a contest to possibly win a poster?
You sure the intent wasn't to bring more people to your site who might possibly click on an Amazon banner containing a referral link? If you had good intentions, why did you mislead people into believing they could sign up for a free poster instead of a contest to possibly win a poster?
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Uhm, I can't have a link in my sig? I've had that for awhile now and you just now decide to remove? Hmm, how interesting that is.
Uhm, I can't have a link in my sig? I've had that for awhile now and you just now decide to remove? Hmm, how interesting that is.
Your signature with your site linked in big blue type said something entirely different. And no, you can't have your site in your signature when it links to a page with Amazon referral links.
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Not to get into the middle of this debate (who am I kidding, that is exactly what I am doing) but as an uninterested party here effigy I have to agree with the mods here....a one in god knows how many chance of winning a poster is not that great of a deal. There appears to be no mention of a free DVD
The contest almost seems like a data mining experiment...enter your email and name...
The only advice I would give effigy is to let it lie...as Andy indicated you are only making more waves which will not help your case.
That's my $0.02.....feel the love...
Contest - October 2003
LOTR: Return of the King Poster
Fill out the form below to enter to win a "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" poster!!
LOTR: Return of the King Poster
Fill out the form below to enter to win a "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" poster!!
The only advice I would give effigy is to let it lie...as Andy indicated you are only making more waves which will not help your case.
That's my $0.02.....feel the love...
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Re: Oh what a great friendly site~!!~!
Originally posted by effigy
Using common sense is a cool thing, try it.
Using common sense is a cool thing, try it.
Originally posted by effigy
Brutal rules. Ouch.
Brutal rules. Ouch.
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Yes this site has tough rules, and yes they are enforced very strictly. I applaud Geoff for this. It's the reason these boards aren't over ran with spam, flame wars and the other typical internet geek crap that ruins most boards.
Yes this site has tough rules, and yes they are enforced very strictly. I applaud Geoff for this. It's the reason these boards aren't over ran with spam, flame wars and the other typical internet geek crap that ruins most boards.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh what a great friendly site~!!~!
Originally posted by X
You never called attention to it before. But you sure did when you started this thread and stated you weren't trying to get traffic to your site.
Your signature with your site linked in big blue type said something entirely different. And no, you can't have your site in your signature when it links to a page with Amazon referral links.
You never called attention to it before. But you sure did when you started this thread and stated you weren't trying to get traffic to your site.
Your signature with your site linked in big blue type said something entirely different. And no, you can't have your site in your signature when it links to a page with Amazon referral links.
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Not to get into the middle of this debate (who am I kidding, that is exactly what I am doing) but as an uninterested party here effigy I have to agree with the mods here....a one in god knows how many chance of winning a poster is not that great of a deal. There appears to be no mention of a free DVD
The contest almost seems like a data mining experiment...enter your email and name...
The only advice I would give effigy is to let it lie...as Andy indicated you are only making more waves which will not help your case.
That's my $0.02.....feel the love...
Not to get into the middle of this debate (who am I kidding, that is exactly what I am doing) but as an uninterested party here effigy I have to agree with the mods here....a one in god knows how many chance of winning a poster is not that great of a deal. There appears to be no mention of a free DVD
The contest almost seems like a data mining experiment...enter your email and name...
The only advice I would give effigy is to let it lie...as Andy indicated you are only making more waves which will not help your case.
That's my $0.02.....feel the love...
Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Commonsense would have been reading and obeying the rules, or better yet, just posting a link to a contest without letting it known that it was your site.
Commonsense would have been reading and obeying the rules, or better yet, just posting a link to a contest without letting it known that it was your site.
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No promoting your own site covers not posting deals on your site. It's and case close type deal. Don't post links to your own site for any reason, especially when your site has affiliate ads that could take away revenue from this site.
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Can we link this thread in the FAQ under the "Doesn't Know When To Quit" section? Perhaps next to a picture of a shovel and a hole?
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Can we link this thread in the FAQ under the "Doesn't Know When To Quit" section? Perhaps next to a picture of a shovel and a hole?
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this guy got out the backhoe