Geoff, could this thread be moved somewhere better maybe?
01-11-03, 03:42 PM
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Geoff, could this thread be moved somewhere better maybe?
I don't know, but this thread kind of kills any hopes of being able to trades dvds if you're in Canada. People mostly won't have problems if they don't go around trading with people who have no feedback. I have no feedback, but I have on occasions bought dvd's from the US without any problems. If I buy a dvd from a gold trader and the dvd never arrives, I will assume it is lost, it should never be the senders' responsibility if something happens to a package. Maybe it's different in trades, but I doubt I'll ever be able to get a dvd from here again because the second I say 'I'm in Canada', it'll scare away everyone and your thread sure doesn't help as I find it makes us look like a bunch of thieves with the whole 'beware canadian traders/buyers'. You should instead have a disclaimer on the site or set up better rules instead of trying to stop all traffic between countries.
Warning - Trade Across Country Lines at Your Own Risk!!
It's unfortunate, but over 1/2 of our bad trades involve people trying to send goods across country borders (most notably between US and Canada). Most of these trades are impossible to track, and with the heightened security measures in place after Sept 11 2001, serious delays in packages can and DO occur.
As a result of the sheer number of Bad US/Canada trades we've decided that we are no longer going to get involved in ANY WAY with trades across country borders. It's a tough decision, but ones which comes out of a number of extremely explosive bad trade situations.
So if you choose to trade outside of the U.S, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK and with the full understanding that the BULK of the bad trades occur in this space and we will NOT get involved if the trade goes bad. (your only recourse on DVD Talk for a bad trade across country lines is to simply add a negative feedback rating to the Good Trader List), other than that you're on your own.
This is also a good opportunity for many of you to review our Exchange Forum Guidelines: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showth...threadid=178165
At least one recent bad trade would have been helped considerably if both parties had followed the guidelines.
I'm not happy that we've had to put this new policy in place, I value and respect the DVD Talk Members who visit our site from outside of the US and want to make sure that it's clear that the new policy is not a reflection on how I feel about people in other countries, but more a reflection of the reality of sending packages in and out of the United States since 9-11.
It's unfortunate, but over 1/2 of our bad trades involve people trying to send goods across country borders (most notably between US and Canada). Most of these trades are impossible to track, and with the heightened security measures in place after Sept 11 2001, serious delays in packages can and DO occur.
As a result of the sheer number of Bad US/Canada trades we've decided that we are no longer going to get involved in ANY WAY with trades across country borders. It's a tough decision, but ones which comes out of a number of extremely explosive bad trade situations.
So if you choose to trade outside of the U.S, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK and with the full understanding that the BULK of the bad trades occur in this space and we will NOT get involved if the trade goes bad. (your only recourse on DVD Talk for a bad trade across country lines is to simply add a negative feedback rating to the Good Trader List), other than that you're on your own.
This is also a good opportunity for many of you to review our Exchange Forum Guidelines: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showth...threadid=178165
At least one recent bad trade would have been helped considerably if both parties had followed the guidelines.
I'm not happy that we've had to put this new policy in place, I value and respect the DVD Talk Members who visit our site from outside of the US and want to make sure that it's clear that the new policy is not a reflection on how I feel about people in other countries, but more a reflection of the reality of sending packages in and out of the United States since 9-11.
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It saddens me to have to had created the new trading policy, but it comes out of a great number of explosive trade situations, almost all of which involve a US/Canada Trade.
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Did any of the bad trades involve people with multiple positive feedback or gold trader status? If not, perhaps it would be possible to exempt gold member trades, or at least mention in your notice that the bad trades have all been with members who had no or very few prior trades?
