Geoff: ANY way to get back the new forum Other posts?
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Possibly time consuming, but perhaps they could be placed in a "closed" forum here i.e. essentially a read-only archive.
I bet the official vB guys know how to do it. What I want to know is why Geoff wasn't warned about the server drain. There must be plenty of stats available.... the same thing happened when UBB v6.0 was tried out here. I blame Bill Gates!
I bet the official vB guys know how to do it. What I want to know is why Geoff wasn't warned about the server drain. There must be plenty of stats available.... the same thing happened when UBB v6.0 was tried out here. I blame Bill Gates!
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Originally posted by conkie
whats bill got to do with it? I bet jack lost almost 500 posts
whats bill got to do with it? I bet jack lost almost 500 posts
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so, if i understand correctly, the threads are still there, just can't be transferred to this version of the software, right?
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Geoff: I'm pretty good with file translation and stuff. It's been one of my regular tasks with C/C++, hearkening all the way back to my days when I cooked up a WAD file converter for Doom 1 (yeah, that was in 1994.)
I think there are lots of great posts over the past two days that got a really unfair shake. I'd love to take a crack at converting the new forum software's database file so that the threads can be integrated into the old forum software's database. I have no clue how I'd go about doing that, but to be perfectly honest, it really can't be <i>that</i> hard.
If you're willing to let me take a stab at it, email me, please.
<b>(edit)</b> Actually, the absolute easiest way to make this switch would be to mine the new forum software's database to extract the HTML from all of the posts. Each post could then be re-posted in a new thread. That would avoid the problem of duplicating thread numbers. I think I could probably do all this in, say, an afternoon...
All I think I'd need would be a copy of the new forum's database of posts. It's not encrypted, is it? And it doesn't contain any privileged info, like usernames/pw's, does it? If the threads reside in a separate file from the administrative/security data, I really shouldn't have any trouble making the merge. And I'm sure the forums - all of them - would like to have their posts back.
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[Edited by sfsdfd on 04-24-01 at 10:33 PM]
I think there are lots of great posts over the past two days that got a really unfair shake. I'd love to take a crack at converting the new forum software's database file so that the threads can be integrated into the old forum software's database. I have no clue how I'd go about doing that, but to be perfectly honest, it really can't be <i>that</i> hard.
If you're willing to let me take a stab at it, email me, please.
<b>(edit)</b> Actually, the absolute easiest way to make this switch would be to mine the new forum software's database to extract the HTML from all of the posts. Each post could then be re-posted in a new thread. That would avoid the problem of duplicating thread numbers. I think I could probably do all this in, say, an afternoon...
All I think I'd need would be a copy of the new forum's database of posts. It's not encrypted, is it? And it doesn't contain any privileged info, like usernames/pw's, does it? If the threads reside in a separate file from the administrative/security data, I really shouldn't have any trouble making the merge. And I'm sure the forums - all of them - would like to have their posts back.
- David Stein
[Edited by sfsdfd on 04-24-01 at 10:33 PM]
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Sorry. I just couldn't resist.
Sorry. I just couldn't resist.
Once Quake came along they renamed it a PAK File.
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If you updated the database offline, how would people post in the meantime, David? I really, really, really wouldn't recommend messing with <a href="http://www.mysql.com">MySQL</a> database files directly in that fashion anyway. Live updates are the only way to go with this sort of setup.
Fun crazy pseudocde, since I don't know what the tables/columns are for the new version of the software.
This would, unless I notice some more errors later , port over all new threads from the vB 2.0, along with replies to new and existing threads. I banged this out in all of 4 minutes, so there are sure to be some flaws somewhere. I could also stick some crap in there to increment post counts accordingly, I guess, but I'm running late as it is.
Fun crazy pseudocde, since I don't know what the tables/columns are for the new version of the software.
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<?php // pretend db connectivity stuff is here $threadQuery = "SELECT * " . "FROM newthreadtable " . "WHERE lastpost BETWEEN whatever AND whatever"; // I'd never <i>really</i> use 'select *', but I don't know the structure of the new table // also, the 'between' would obviously be whenever the server made the switch to when // the old version was restored $threadResult = mysql_query($threadQuery); while ($thread = mysql_fetch_array($threadResult)) { $query = "SELECT COUNT(*) AS Counted " . "FROM newthreadtable " . "WHERE id=$thread[id] " . "AND dateline BETWEEN whatever AND whatever"; $isNewResult = mysql_query($query); $isNew = mysql_fetch_array($isNewResult); if ($isNew[Counted]) { $query = "INSERT INTO thread VALUES (" . " NULL, " . " $thread[title], " . " $thread[lastpost], " . " $thread[forumid], " . " $thread[open], " . " $thread[replycount], " . " $thread[postusername], " . " $thread[lastposter], " . " $thread[dateline], " . " $thread[views], " . " $thread[iconid], " . " $thread[notes], " . " $thread[visible], " . " $thread[subjectindex], " . " $thread[threadindex], " . " $thread[userindex] " . ")"; mysql_query($query); $id = mysql_insert_id(); } else { $id = $thread[id]; } $postQuery = "SELECT * " . "FROM newposttable " . "WHERE threadid=$thread[id] " . "AND dateline BETWEEN whatever AND whatever"; $postResult = mysql_query($postQuery); while ($post = mysql_fetch_array($postQuery)) { $query = "INSERT INTO post VALUES (" . " NULL, " . " $id, " . " $post[username], " . " $post[userid], " . " $post[title], " . " $post[dateline], " . " $post[pagetext], " . " $post[allowssmilie], " . " $post[email], " . " $post[signature], " . " $post[ipaddress], " . " $post[iconid], " . " $post[visible] " . ")"; mysql_query($query); } } ?>
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Is there any interest in having me complete the script and move things over, or can I assume from the lack of response that no one cares?
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I thought we actually had a bunch of good discussions going also. So it might be nice to have them back. If not I guess we will have to recreate them
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Originally posted by gcribbs
I thought we actually had a bunch of good discussions going also. So it might be nice to have them back. If not I guess we will have to recreate them
I thought we actually had a bunch of good discussions going also. So it might be nice to have them back. If not I guess we will have to recreate them
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Originally posted by sfsdfd
Yeah, at least three great discussions were under way when the fit hit the shan.
Yeah, at least three great discussions were under way when the fit hit the shan.
Seriously, though, if there were a way to try it where Geoff could be absolutely certain that it was undoable, then it might be worth a try. But, if there's a chance he could clobber the database in any kind of serious way and not be able to recover, then it probably wouldn't be worth it.
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I can help!
If you need a hand getting the latest version up including any lost data, send me an email and I will get you up and running...I will not accept any form of payment. I enjoy helping others out as I have been there before....
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Re: I can help!
Originally posted by vbguru
If you need a hand getting the latest version up including any lost data, send me an email and I will get you up and running...I will not accept any form of payment. I enjoy helping others out as I have been there before....
If you need a hand getting the latest version up including any lost data, send me an email and I will get you up and running...I will not accept any form of payment. I enjoy helping others out as I have been there before....
and there was me with a H*nd Job with your name on it
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Re: I can help!
Originally posted by vbguru
If you need a hand getting the latest version up including any lost data, send me an email and I will get you up and running...I will not accept any form of payment. I enjoy helping others out as I have been there before....
If you need a hand getting the latest version up including any lost data, send me an email and I will get you up and running...I will not accept any form of payment. I enjoy helping others out as I have been there before....
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I hate to say this... but my call on this is to let it be. It was hell going from the old to the new and back again, now that things are running well I don't want to mess things up by trying to re-import the old posts.
Thanks
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I really don't see why anyone would want the now old threads/posts from the "new" forum software to be restored.
The "Other" forum moves at the speed of light and what is informational, funny, inspirational ore even amusing one (1) minute is lost in the shuffle the next and soon forgotten.
I would think that while some discussions from "DVD Talk" and other more structured forums may have more importance for restoration at this time a restore of such data would be useless. What has it been... a week? All of the forums with the exception of "International DVD" (and a select few others) move so fast that old data is just that "old data".
Move along... nothing more to see here.
The "Other" forum moves at the speed of light and what is informational, funny, inspirational ore even amusing one (1) minute is lost in the shuffle the next and soon forgotten.
I would think that while some discussions from "DVD Talk" and other more structured forums may have more importance for restoration at this time a restore of such data would be useless. What has it been... a week? All of the forums with the exception of "International DVD" (and a select few others) move so fast that old data is just that "old data".
Move along... nothing more to see here.
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Restoring the posts was more desirable when the change first occurred, though, BadAsh. As things stand right now, I agree -- no big loss.
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If I'm not mistaken....the admin of this forum requested help on the vBulletin Forums....thought I would offer to help. Based on the attitudes here maybe I'm just wasting my time...
and there was me with a H*nd Job with your name on it
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Originally posted by vbguru
If I'm not mistaken....the admin of this forum requested help on the vBulletin Forums....thought I would offer to help. Based on the attitudes here maybe I'm just wasting my time...
If I'm not mistaken....the admin of this forum requested help on the vBulletin Forums....thought I would offer to help. Based on the attitudes here maybe I'm just wasting my time...
and there was me with a H*nd Job with your name on it
it's because your new you don't know Desmondp very well
i take nothing seriously !
I know you were offering your services,and that was very cool of you, i wasn't joking about that, i was joking about the fact that you emphasized that you would do it for free