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Old 11-11-18, 11:25 PM
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Re: Comments, Suggestions & Feedback for the 2019 Horror Challenge

Suggestion: Start now to finalize theme days and subsets choices by July or August at the latest. Some of the subset choices were quite obscure and had few or no mainstream media releases. It was a bitch to track everything down this year.
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For the checklist I recommend two changes to help restore some of the 'fun' to it. It use to be interesting to try to 100% the checklist and these two items block that. We shouldn't neuter the checklist, but these fields are horrible slogs in my opinion that are overly specific. With the checklist it would be good to keep to more general items.

Delete Masters of Commentary - The 'Masters of Commentary' field is way to limiting, we already have a commentary checklist item so MoC is somewhat redundant. Even some on the 'masters of commentary' list don't have a whole ton of commentaries (like Joe Bob Briggs is masterful on I Spit on Your Grave but good luck finding his other commentaries). Commentary is a niche field and encouraging people to watch some of those listed versus others feels arbitrary, there are many many worthwhile commentary tracks and MoC ignores so much of the potential with commentaries. If 'Masters of Commentary' must persist maybe it could be merged with 'horror host' to give more flexibility as 'horror host or master of commentary.'
For reference here is last year's 'Masters of Commentary' checklist item:
Spoiler:
Watch 1 w/commentary from the "Masters of Commentary":
--- Joe Bob Briggs -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Larry Cohen -
--- Joe Dante -
--- Herschell Gordon Lewis -
--- Tim Lucas -
--- George A. Romero -
--- Guillermo del Toro -
--- David del Valle -


Merge 'Recently Deceased' into Just One Check - I love the nod towards RIP but think just having one checkbox with maybe a separate 'recently deceased' reference post would be better. The recently deceased checklist field seems too exhaustive and ends up with so many individuals with marginal horror contributions. Since these are often not luminaries it's hard to appreciate and even notice their role in film often resulting in watching random movies with no idea who the person is - this year I think one was an extra in Blood on Satan's Claw but I know nothing about the dead guy even now. Bigger names like Umberto Lenzi or Ulli Lommel should maybe automatically get added to actor/writer/director categories or even get their own theme day (like we did with Tobe Hooper or George Romero).
For reference here is last year's Recently Deceased item:
Spoiler:
Select 5 recently deceased
--- Umberto Lenzi -
--- Ulli Lommel -
--- Peter Wyngarde -
--- Jack Ketchum (Dallas Mayr) -
--- Alf Humphreys -
--- Dorothy Malone -
--- John Gavin -
--- Ren Osugi -
--- Lewis Gilbert -
--- Debbie Lee Carrington -
--- R. Lee Ermey -
--- Verne Troyer -
--- Michael Anderson -
--- Janine Reynaud -
--- Jerry Maren -
--- Derrick O'Connor -
--- Tab Hunter -
--- Shinobu Hashimoto -
--- Margot Kidder -
--- Robert Dix -
--- Jacqueline Pearce -
--- Donnelly Rhodes -
--- Fenella Fielding -
--- Pasquale Buba -
--- Al Matthews -
--- Gary Kurtz -


Here are some potential checklist additions:
Movies You’ve Never Heard Of – watch movies you’ve never heard of; you know those random movies on Netflix or Shudder that look maybe good but nothing to go on.
[Inspired by Blood Demon Rising, a movie I’d never heard of that really ended up sucking so trying to get something out of it; also Phobia 2 which was much much better]
One Man Band - movies with the same writer and director, I noticed several times this seems to be the case with a lot of film and wondered if it helped to have a singular vision. [Is this also what 'Master of Horror' refers to? For some reason I though MoH was just a more prolific director, not necessarily writer].
https://thescriptlab.com/features/th...ers-of-horror/
Expand Agoraphobia - include any phobia or paranoia.
Eurohorror - seems like this should be a always on staple.

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Old 11-12-18, 10:19 AM
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Theme Ideas

Hair Horror - Long hair like Ringu (and imitators), or other hair based horrors
[Inspired by the balding people in Blue Sunshine]
http://www.mtv.com/news/1974434/hair...horror-scenes/
https://limmerhtc.com/horrifying-hai...ory-halloween/

Travelogue Horror – movies from exotic locations
[Inspired by Vinyan featuring scenic Thailand]
https://lwlies.com/articles/horror-t...ent-countries/

Suburban Horror – involving families
[Inspired by Mom and Dad, Mum, & A Tale of Two Sisters]
https://www.ranker.com/list/scariest...stopher-shultz

Wishes / Djinn / Genie
[Inspired by wanting Wish Upon to be better than it was]
https://www.listchallenges.com/wish-horror-movies
https://bloody-disgusting.com/editor...orror-history/

Horrors of War – involving war
[Inspired by The Maus, about aftermath of Siberian War]
https://www.listchallenges.com/horrors-at-war

Carrie Telekenesis – movies about the horror of having mind powers
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074646283/

Movies Recommended in Thread – watch any movie someone else has recommended on their list or in discussion thread - but as a theme day. The subset could be a film someone recommends from last year.

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Old 11-12-18, 01:05 PM
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Some contributors I noticed this year...

Special Effects
Mike Measimer [The Blob ’88, BS’ Dracula, Idle Hands, Piranha 3DD, Gremlins 2, Demon Wind, Hellraiser 5-8, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm0575239
Michael Spatola [ROTLD 1-2, Tremors, House, Predator 2, Bride of Re-Animator, CHUD 2, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm0817189
Michelle Sfarzo [Love Witch, Feral, Black Room, Devil’s Carnival, The Clinic, Halloweed, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm5938879

Producer
Nate Bolotin [Mandy, Apostle, Tusk, Holidays, Contracted 2, Cell 2, XX, Spring, Frankenstein’s Army, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm1924867
Enrique Lopez Lavigne [28 Weeks Later, Veronica, Open Windows, Intruders, Vampire Killer Barbys, Out of the Dark, etc)
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm0492038
Trevor Macy [Gerald’s Game, Hush, Strangers 1-2, Bye Bye Man, The Return, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm1006167

Writer
Jamie Nash [Night Watchmen, V/H/S2, WNUF Halloween, Exists, Altered, 7th Moon, Lovely Molly, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...role=nm1912178

Actors
Felissa Rose [Sleepaway Camp, Tales of Halloween, Victor Crowley, Penny Dreadful, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ti...role=nm0741378
Eric Roberts [Chillerama, Wicked Within, Human Centipede 3, Sharktopus, etc]
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ti...role=nm0000616
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We should have a little more time to finalize our lists on election years.
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Old 11-13-18, 08:32 PM
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Has Dominique Swain been used in a checklist yet? If not she has 19 horror films under her belt.

https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch?exp...&genres=Horror
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Originally Posted by Trevor View Post
Suggestion: Start now to finalize theme days and subsets choices by July or August at the latest. Some of the subset choices were quite obscure and had few or no mainstream media releases. It was a bitch to track everything down this year.
I'd agree it would be awesome to have the checklist and subset list earlier, like by Sept 1. It took me quite a bit of research/organizing to get my watch list sorted juggling theme nights, checklist, subset, etc. I found I also picked up a number of new blus based on the checklist. I know it's herding cats and people may not be paying attention that early, but if possible, that would be ideal.

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For the checklist I recommend two changes to help restore some of the 'fun' to it. It use to be interesting to try to 100% the checklist and these two items block that. We shouldn't neuter the checklist, but these fields are horrible slogs in my opinion that are overly specific. With the checklist it would be good to keep to more general items in my opinion. Delete Masters of Commentary. Merge 'Recently Deceased' into Just One Check.
I wasn't sure how much of the checklist I was going to do this past year. I started out planning on minimal and then I ended up doing nearly all of the "sub genre" item (for fun) and a half dozen other categories completely. But the Actors, Deceased, and Commentary kept me from even considering doing the whole thing. Some of the actors had only 1 or 2 horror movies and they were pretty obscure (I almost bought a $50 Lewis & Martin DVD set to get "Scared Stiff" for one actress but reason prevailed).

On the one hand, they're optional, so big whoop if the list is long. On the other hand, it seems like it might be nice to have at least some chance of doing it all. I wonder if simply limiting the number of slots. For example, for deceased, only having 5 names and picking the top 5 with the most number of horror films. For actors, having 5 or 10 more than the minimum and not including people with low horror catalogs. On the Commentary, I agree that it could be 1 or 2 slots instead of so many.

I like Undeadcow's suggestions of a general Phobia slot and his theme suggestions. I especially like the idea of "powers of the mind"/telekinesis as a theme night.

Some other suggestions, with hardly any thought put into them whatsoever.
* takes place on a farm/rural (https://www.imdb.com/list/ls076573570/)
* Revenge movies could be an entire theme (https://www.imdb.com/search/title?ge...ort=moviemeter)
* Horror in which the hero is a kid or teen
* Disembodied body part (hand, head) - probably not enough for a theme but could be a checklist item
* Based on a novel has enough to be a theme night (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego..._horror_novels)

I'll give it some more thought.
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[QUOTE=Undeadcow;13442547]Merge 'Recently Deceased' into Just One Check

The recently Deceased list was an issue this year. My "tweak" of Undeadcow's recommendation is to only include deceased actors that have been in at least 3-5 horror films. This would hopefully filter out the rare actors with marginal contributions.
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Yes, the checklist item I have trouble with every year is Master of Commentary. I love Joe Bob, but I just don't have any of those titles with exception of I Spit on Your Grave. That one is buried way deep.

I really enjoy listening to commentary tracks, and if I've seen the movie multiple times, listening to a commentary track can really freshen things. up. I would suggest just to merge them into, 'Listen to a commentary track'.

Expand the tropes list.
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Food related scares/deaths as a theme night... Microwave Massacre, Ice Cream Man, Theater of Blood, The Stuff, Raw, etc etc

https://www.houstonpress.com/restaur...istory-9842112
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-...der-122983794/
https://aminoapps.com/c/horror/page/...G52EKMZzpnbReM
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Creepy/evil kids as a theme:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-50-spook...ked-1781681290
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000971119/
https://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...lery-1.1984867
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Theme or Checklist Item:
Watch any horror film on anyone's 'best of' list.

Referring to 'best of' lists might add a nice level of discussion and reference. Could be any list for any thng or narrowed to something more specific.

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Suggestion: Start now to finalize theme days and subsets choices by July or August at the latest. Some of the subset choices were quite obscure and had few or no mainstream media releases. It was a bitch to track everything down this year.
Even crazier, lets cement subset in April and start a deal watch thread, I mean this forum is about media collecting.
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There are plenty of great film shorts and tv that get ignored every year. I'm sure not even 10 people watched non-movie horror, this year or the last year and even if ten people (per year) had, that would still be less than one percent of the total participants.

If we make the challenge more user-friendly we might get more participation or is the challenge only meant to appeal to the hardcore fan? As noted above, even those of us with deep collections can be tasked by some of the selections (and I say this as someone who has plenty of titles most mainstream collectors won't have).
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What rules do we use for determining a feature film? Cause the Emmys changed theirs to 75 minutes.
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Even crazier, lets cement subset in April and start a deal watch thread, I mean this forum is about media collecting.
Good idea.
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