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Old 08-18-15 | 08:46 AM
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Volunteer some Subsets

BAttle Royale( Vs. Movies) Jason vs Freddy, Strippers vs Werewolves, Tucker and Dave vs Evil, Alien vs Predator)
When the color runs (B and W movies - The Mist, any Universal Monsters movie)
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Originally Posted by SterlingBen
He is unfortunately thinking of Halloween 8, which I unfortunately saw in theaters.
I think I skipped that one but Hellraiser has it's own version starring Lance Henriksen called Hellraiser: Hellworld. It's not great and I'm not sure it isn't one of the sequels where they had an idea for another film and then figured out a way to put Pinhead into it but it certainly feels like it.
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Originally Posted by Undeadcow
Ssssshhh... we don't speak about such things as the later Halloween sequels aloud lest they hear us and become summoned.

Spoiler:
You're brain hates you enough to remember Halloween [8]: Resurrection featuring Busta Rhymes; billed as a "horror comedy" uuuugggggghhhhhh...



Edit:...there was also a Hellraiser installment with a cyber video game plot, Hellraiser [8]: Hellworld (responding to below \/ )

Why do people keep making me think of crappy movies?
Originally Posted by SterlingBen
He is unfortunately thinking of Halloween 8, which I unfortunately saw in theaters.
Originally Posted by The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
I think I skipped that one but Hellraiser has it's own version starring Lance Henriksen called Hellraiser: Hellworld. It's not great and I'm not sure it isn't one of the sequels where they had an idea for another film and then figured out a way to put Pinhead into it but it certainly feels like it.
The worst part about it is, unless my memory is failing me again, I believe it was what I opened last year's challenge with.
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Originally Posted by Chad
The Splat Pack is probably the closest we've come.

Unfortunately that one provides very little in the number of entries, but we could stitch a few similar ones together - Famous Directors That Started Off in Horror / Directors Who Came Late to the Horror Genre / Horror Movies that are one-time Directorial Efforts / The Up & Up: The 10 Horror Directors to Watch
I like the Up & Up idea and/or one-time horror directors.
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I'm going to suggest Samhain: An Evening of Celtic Horror

Many of the Halloween traditions that we are familiar with began in the "Celtic" countries of Scotland, Ireland and Wales. This evening would pay tribute by highlighting films that have a connection to those countries. Many to choose from including THE WICKER MAN, DOG SOLDIERS, BODY SNATCHERS (and all Burke and Hare films), DR. JEKYLL AND MR HYDE, etc.
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Originally Posted by rbrown498
I'll volunteer for a subset. Give me whatever theme you need to farm out.

Rob
#5! And will do.

Originally Posted by Darkgod
Volunteer some Subsets

BAttle Royale( Vs. Movies) Jason vs Freddy, Strippers vs Werewolves, Tucker and Dave vs Evil, Alien vs Predator)
When the color runs (B and W movies - The Mist, any Universal Monsters movie)
I'll try and find a link, or if someone wants to compile a list. And B&W was already used a couple years back, but can always be brought back.

Originally Posted by jacob_b
I like the Up & Up idea and/or one-time horror directors.
I added this to the suggestions list on post 2:

Director Stew - Started Off in Horror / Came Late to the Genre / One-time Directorial Efforts / Up & Coming

Name and categories within are subject to change.
Originally Posted by Doc Moonlight
I'm going to suggest Samhain: An Evening of Celtic Horror

Many of the Halloween traditions that we are familiar with began in the "Celtic" countries of Scotland, Ireland and Wales. This evening would pay tribute by highlighting films that have a connection to those countries. Many to choose from including THE WICKER MAN, DOG SOLDIERS, BODY SNATCHERS (and all Burke and Hare films), DR. JEKYLL AND MR HYDE, etc.
We already have 'Halloween-related' as a mainstay, but we can always add it as a sub-category like with were-creatures (shape shifters) being added to werewolves.
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Also I have not actually posted it but you know I am down for a subset pick (of questionable likability).
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Originally Posted by Darkgod
BAttle Royale( Vs. Movies) Jason vs Freddy, Strippers vs Werewolves, Tucker and Dave vs Evil, Alien vs Predator)
I really like this idea, here's an IMDB advanced search showing horror movies with the term 'vs' in the title... there are 106 but a lot of muck.

http://www.imdb.com/search/title?gen...umentary,video

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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 11 Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

Originally Posted by SterlingBen
Also I have not actually posted it but you know I am down for a subset pick (of questionable likability).
And that makes 6.

Originally Posted by Undeadcow
I really like this idea, here's an IMDB advanced search showing horror movies with the term 'vs' in the title... there are 106 but a lot of muck.

http://www.imdb.com/search/title?gen...umentary,video
Thank you! Added to the suggestions page.

If anyone (like me) thought this one sounded familiar, you're probably thinking of 'Remakes vs Sequels'.
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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 11 Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

And speaking of mainstays, this is what we currently have:
  • Criterion Crossover
  • R.I.P. Christopher Lee
  • Werewolves (Full Moon Day)
  • Horror Anthologies
  • Asian Buffet (absent in 2013)
  • Slashers, Giallos & Serial Killers
  • Horror Comedies (absent in 2012)
  • Vampires
  • Zombies
  • Supernatural
  • Demonic/Satanic on 'Devil's Night' (used the last 4 out of 6 years)
  • Halloween-Related (+ Samhain: An Evening of Celtic Horror)

With the exception of Christopher Lee, these are the usual returning themes. Is everyone alright with these coming back? And did I miss anything?

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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 11 Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

^ Comedy can be made Comedy Challenge Crossover for the November 1st hours. That would free up a theme night.
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Originally Posted by Chad
And speaking of mainstays, this is what we currently have:
  • Criterion Crossover
  • R.I.P. Christopher Lee
  • Werewolves (Full Moon Day)
  • Asian Buffet (absent in 2013)
  • Slashers, Giallos & Serial Killers
  • Horror Comedies (absent in 2012)
  • Vampires
  • Zombies
  • Supernatural
  • Demonic/Satanic on 'Devil's Night' (used the last 4 out of 6 years)
  • Halloween-Related

With the exception of Christopher Lee, these are the usual returning themes. Is everyone alright with these coming back? And did I miss anything?
Would the Chronological Horror Years Faceoff count as a "usual" theme, since it's only been a theme for two years?
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Personally I'm not a fan of the "asian buffet" theme and would prefer to see that switched out with a different region (or topic); perhaps Celtic, Spanish, or Italian horror. Maybe some unique significance of asian horror is lost on me or I'm overlooking something.

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Originally Posted by Undeadcow
Personally I'm not a fan of the "asian buffet" theme and would prefer to see that switched out with a different region (or topic); perhaps Celtic, Spanish, or Italian horror. Maybe some unique significance of asian horror is lost on me or I'm overlooking something.
Yeah, how about just a foreign night where one must watch a horror movie in a different language (with subtitles if they please)?
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Originally Posted by jacob_b
Yeah, how about just a foreign night where one must watch a horror movie in a different language (with subtitles if they please)?
I'd prefer this, so you have a more global choice.
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Originally Posted by jacob_b
Yeah, how about just a foreign night where one must watch a horror movie in a different language (with subtitles if they please)?
Sounds like you need to watch some 80s chinese vampire movies, like Mr. Vampire. Or get into some Filipino horror from the 80s.
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Dig deeper into the "Asian Buffet" category because there's an entire world (and decades upon decades) of amazing Asian horror films that have nothing to do with the run of films that made J-horror famous in the US about a decade ago such as The Ring, The Grudge and so on.
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Originally Posted by SethDLH
Dig deeper into the "Asian Buffet" category because there's an entire world (and decades upon decades) of amazing Asian horror films that have nothing to do with the run of films that made J-horror famous in the US about a decade ago such as The Ring, The Grudge and so on.
I totally agree; however the same could be said for many other regions - Germany, Italy, Spanish, etc. Asia is a large geographic region but if we want to get into deeper digging then seemingly it could be swapped out with European, Canadian, etc regions that also have plentiful horror output especially if we go into less mainstream titles (which I assume is the point of 'asian buffet' night).
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Originally Posted by Undeadcow
I totally agree; however the same could be said for many other regions - Germany, Italy, Spanish, etc. Asia is a large geographic region but if we want to get into deeper digging then seemingly it could be swapped out with European, Canadian, etc regions that also have plentiful horror output especially if we go into less mainstream titles (which I assume is the point of 'asian buffet' night).
Exactly! Why should one culture be favored over another? Just make it international night or switch it up each year for a different region.
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Originally Posted by Undeadcow
I totally agree; however the same could be said for many other regions - Germany, Italy, Spanish, etc. Asia is a large geographic region but if we want to get into deeper digging then seemingly it could be swapped out with European, Canadian, etc regions that also have plentiful horror output especially if we go into less mainstream titles (which I assume is the point of 'asian buffet' night).
I don't disagree. I would also be in favor if a different region or country getting the spotlight each year
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Maybe I've just been oblivious but I stumbled on a horror subgenre that I hadn't heard of before called "Psycho-Biddy," aka "Grande Dame Guignol" or "Hag Horror." Movies from 1960s-1970s about insane/bitter older women with glamorous past that have turned villainous; typically vehicles for older notable actresses that have aged out of mainstream cinema. It's amusing to me that this subgenre exists because it's reverse of scream queens but might also make a unique checklist item (or theme night).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-biddy
http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2015/16...freak-you-out/
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls058871416/
http://www.terrortrap.com/specialfeatures/grandguignol/

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Re: Pre-Horror Challenge 11 Building of the Optional Lists (Themes, Subset, & Checkl

Originally Posted by Chad
And speaking of mainstays, this is what we currently have:
  • Criterion Crossover
  • R.I.P. Christopher Lee
  • Werewolves (Full Moon Day)
  • Asian Buffet (absent in 2013)
  • Slashers, Giallos & Serial Killers
  • Horror Comedies (absent in 2012)
  • Vampires
  • Zombies
  • Supernatural
  • Demonic/Satanic on 'Devil's Night' (used the last 4 out of 6 years)
  • Halloween-Related

With the exception of Christopher Lee, these are the usual returning themes. Is everyone alright with these coming back? And did I miss anything?
Forgot to include Horror Anthologies, which was used 4 out of 6 times.

Originally Posted by Trevor
^ Comedy can be made Comedy Challenge Crossover for the November 1st hours. That would free up a theme night.
I have no objections if nobody else does. This would be the first time a row was added since 2012.

Originally Posted by rbrown498
Would the Chronological Horror Years Faceoff count as a "usual" theme, since it's only been a theme for two years?
Not yet, but it could be on its way to becoming one.

Originally Posted by Undeadcow
I totally agree; however the same could be said for many other regions - Germany, Italy, Spanish, etc. Asia is a large geographic region but if we want to get into deeper digging then seemingly it could be swapped out with European, Canadian, etc regions that also have plentiful horror output especially if we go into less mainstream titles (which I assume is the point of 'asian buffet' night).

Originally Posted by jacob_b
Yeah, how about just a foreign night where one must watch a horror movie in a different language (with subtitles if they please)?

Originally Posted by Gobear
I'd prefer this, so you have a more global choice.

Originally Posted by Undeadcow
I totally agree; however the same could be said for many other regions - Germany, Italy, Spanish, etc. Asia is a large geographic region but if we want to get into deeper digging then seemingly it could be swapped out with European, Canadian, etc regions that also have plentiful horror output especially if we go into less mainstream titles (which I assume is the point of 'asian buffet' night).

Originally Posted by jacob_b
Exactly! Why should one culture be favored over another? Just make it international night or switch it up each year for a different region.

Originally Posted by SethDLH
I don't disagree. I would also be in favor if a different region or country getting the spotlight each year
Well, whatever is decided, these are the other regions we've covered globally in the past:

Passport to Sheer Terror! - European Horror (This was during the first year before hyperlinks were included, aside from the sole Lovecraft one).

British Fright Cinema - Hammer, Amicus & Ealing (Also during the first year.)

Outback Chillers & Kiwi Killers - Australian / New Zealand

Ooh! Scary, eh? - Canadian Horror Films

¡Mierda Espantosa! - Spanish Horror Films

Bavas, Argentos and Fulcis, Oh My! - Italian Horror Films

Viking Decapitation Via Windmill - NetherHorror Vs. Norwegian Horror

And BFI's 100 European Horror Films ...if that counts.


Originally Posted by Undeadcow
Maybe I've just been oblivious but I stumbled on a horror subgenre that I hadn't heard of before called "Psycho-Biddy," aka "Grande Dame Guignol" or "Hag Horror." Movies from 1960s-1970s about insane/bitter older women with glamorous past that have turned villainous; typically vehicles for older notable actresses that have aged out of mainstream cinema. It's amusing to me that this subgenre exists because it's reverse of scream queens but might also make a unique checklist item (or theme night).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-biddy
http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2015/16...freak-you-out/
[urk]http://www.imdb.com/list/ls058871416/[/url]
http://www.terrortrap.com/specialfeatures/grandguignol/
We covered that one in 2010:

Killer Grannies & Saggy Mammaries - Psycho-biddy (Hagsploitation)
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...these are the other regions we've covered globally in the past...
It's hard to argue with that...

...is there anything the challenge has not yet covered?
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Originally Posted by Undeadcow
It's hard to argue with that...

...is there anything the challenge has not yet covered?
I don't think there is ..that is, unless Africa and Antarctica have a thriving horror scene I don't know about. South Africa is slim pickings.

But among that list doing European horror would probably make the most sense being it was during the first year of theme nights when it wasn't very popular, because it didn't have a hyperlink attached. And a good chunk of British only horror would be covered by the Christopher Lee theme.

I could do something along the lines of the Asian Buffet only with European horror and divide it among the countries with links for each. Just an idea.
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What would have been H. P Lovecraft's 125th birthday was yesterday. How about a night based on his films.


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