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Old 09-13-14 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shadokitty
On another note, got $10 worth of Amazon gift cards approved yesterday, so bought used copies of the Criterion Collection versions of Robocop, and Armageddon.
Other than the Robocop edition MGM pulled back the blu-ray release one for being such utter crap, I'd vote the Criterion to be next at the bottom. Mainly because it's the cut version. The blu-ray trilogy edition that recently came out is around $20 and has the most recently restored version as well.

Too bad part 2 and 3 are garbage,
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minus the first few minutes of part 2
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You doing bing for the amazon cards?
Old 09-13-14 | 04:14 PM
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I know exactly what you mean. I planned to start hitting the challenge hard again once I got Hulu Plus back, but as soon as it happened, I came down with the flu.
Sucks, doesn't it? I hope your immune system is normal and not worthless like mine!

Originally Posted by pacaway
I watched The Game many many years ago and, honestly, didn't care for it that much.
I saw it when it originally played in theaters. I don't remember any specifics, but I remember that when it was over I felt cheated and disappointed. I owe it a second viewing, though I can't say it's particularly high on my to-do list.

Originally Posted by rbrown498
If you get a chance, check out BLACK NARCISSUS. Absolutely dazzling.
Now that one is a bit higher on my to-do list!
Old 09-13-14 | 05:40 PM
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You doing bing for the amazon cards?
I did swagbucks for these, but I don't like the site. It takes over a week for prizes to get approved. I'll look into bing.
Old 09-13-14 | 05:42 PM
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Sucks, doesn't it? I hope your immune system is normal and not worthless like mine!


Don't feel perfect yet, but felt good enough to at least watch tv today, so got a few Criterion watches in. I hope you feel better soon. On a happier note, it looks like I won't be needing to replace my tv after all. The black spot is getting smaller.
Old 09-13-14 | 07:29 PM
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Really? Cause I've heard the opposite, that Paramount are releasing Boyhood themselves and not doing anything with Criterion.
Unless this has been debunked:
http://www.slashfilm.com/boyhood-cri...ction-release/

But they could do a Benjamin Button move and have both studios doing it.
Old 09-13-14 | 07:50 PM
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I am trying to use this challenge to get some of the Criterions out of my unwatched pile. I am very bad about picking up CC discs when they are on sale at different stores and just letting them collect dust. I started watching the Adventures of Antoine Dionel boxset this week. I've watched 400 Blows and Antoine and Colette (both of which I have seen before) and last night I watched Stolen Kisses for the first time. This morning I started reading the book that came with the set, and my receipt fell out of the book:
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I bought this set over 4 years ago and it has sat unwatched until now. That was kind of depressing for me. Part of me thinks this is a sign that I need to not buy things until I plan on watching them, but then again I got it during a half off sale and was able to use a coupon to get it for cheap. But it's a great set so far. I really liked Stolen Kisses. I'm looking forward to finishing the set.
The date on your receipt is July 22, 2010. Today I watched a DVD that I purchased on June 11, 2010 and two movies that I taped off TCM as part of a Joe E. Brown marathon on July 28, 2010. All first-time viewings. So don't feel bad.

Earlier this month I watched two movies for the first time that I taped off American Movie Classics in the summer of 1995.
Old 09-13-14 | 10:22 PM
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I think what was bothering me the most about it is that I have 781 unwatched titles according to my DVDAF page. Most of them have been sitting there for several years.

Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Unless this has been debunked:
http://www.slashfilm.com/boyhood-cri...ction-release/

But they could do a Benjamin Button move and have both studios doing it.
This is what I saw:
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/criteri...ights-boyhood/
Boyhood doesn't seem like the type of movie with enough crossover appeal to have multiple copies on the market.
Old 09-14-14 | 01:27 AM
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I finally watched The Ice Storm the other day. I liked it a lot more than I expected to. There are some funny moments, such as Christina Ricci's Thanksgiving dinner prayer. I found the soundtrack very effective as well. I watched one of the extras as well (cast interview in 2007) and there was a lot of informative tidbits as well.

And today I watched Le Samourai again. The last 30 minutes were very intense. I love the scenes of rainy Paris in the late 1960s. It's got the general theme that I've found in several Melville films of honorable bad guys and the cops being general scumbags. And nothing really beats Delon in a trenchcoat and fedora.
Old 09-14-14 | 11:53 AM
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The Browning Version is going to be one of the highlights of this challenge so far.

As for Carrots and Peas, I have to put that in the trash.
Old 09-14-14 | 11:55 AM
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Thief (1981) was a blast, really a great film with intensity.
Old 09-14-14 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyhead55
I finally watched The Ice Storm the other day. I liked it a lot more than I expected to. There are some funny moments, such as Christina Ricci's Thanksgiving dinner prayer. I found the soundtrack very effective as well. I watched one of the extras as well (cast interview in 2007) and there was a lot of informative tidbits as well.
I really like The Ice Storm. I blind bought it many years ago and was extremely happy with it. didn't even know it was a Criterion title at the time. I think I bought because it had Sigourney Weaver in it.
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I think I'm finally on the uptick, as I was able to watch Ugetsu yesterday morning. Here are my rather lengthy remarks from my Letterboxd diary. Some minor spoilers are buried in there somewhere.
Spoiler:
I decided for this year's DVD Talk Criterion Challenge that I wanted to watch all of one of the celebrity Top 10 lists on their site. After careful consideration, I settled on Martin Scorsese's Top 10. Ugetsu is actually fourth on the list but after failing to fall asleep all night, apparently at 6:30 in the morning I had a hard time with numbers and skipped the third film and went onto this. (Hey, following lists is hard, alright?)

My grasp of Japanese culture and history is rudimentary at best, which is of course the whole reason that Phillip Lopate's essay for The Criterion Collection, shore>Ugetsu: From the Other Shore is less film criticism and more a primer for ignorant rubes like me. I appreciate that Lopate kept whatever disdain he may have for readers like me out of his published essay. Too often, such pieces are defensive and can be antagonistic; all I detected here was enthusiasm for both the film and its director, Kenji Mizoguchi.

Just as I discovered that a state of medicated exhaustion in the middle of the night suited my first time viewing of The Red Shoes, I similarly found that Ugetsu played surprisingly strongly for me after having failed to fall and stay asleep all night. Generally, I shun watching movies in the daylight hours but the morning was quiet and accommodating. By the time we got to the boat-on-the-lake scene, I found myself having flashbacks to when I worked third shift in my late teens. There was nothing else to do in those days except come home and watch Scooby-Doo reruns. (I found that I could time my channel surfing just right and catch three consecutive hours of Scooby, but maddeningly, I could never actually remember who the villain was no matter how obvious or how many times I'd seen the episode over the years.)

That lake scene gave me the heebie jeebies. I absentmindedly found myself making such remarks as "Nope!" and "Oh, hell no!" (The cats just glared at me for my bad manners.) Try as I might, I honestly could not ascertain whether that was shot on a sound stage or on location somewhere. I attribute that confusion at least in part to how meticulously designed the rest of the film is, but unquestionably that scene even removed from the rest of the picture is so deftly crafted that it's just that convincing. It wasn't until I watched the accompanying interview featurette, Process and Production, with the film's first assistant director Tokuzo Tanaka, that I learned of how painstakingly that scene had been produced.

[Incidentally, that interview with Tanaka discussing Mizoguchi is insightful but also hilarious and easily one of the most enjoyable interview featurettes I've seen yet in The Criterion Collection.]

As for the film itself (and yes, I realize that was quite a rambling preface!), I was captivated from start to finish. I'm still so new to Japanese cinema that I fear going into each film that I just won't get enough of what I'm seeing to appreciate it, but I feel I "got" Ugetsu. No doubt, there are cultural and historical nuances that went over my head and I'm sure I could pore over each scene frame-by-frame for decades and find new things to appreciate and admire about it, as its most ardent champions have done for 61 years, so I suppose what I really mean is that I found it instantly accessible.

I quickly connected with all four of the primary characters. Though I hadn't expected to care most about Ohama by the film's end, Mitsuko Mito's performance - unapologetic and defiant, yet also fragile and tender - won me over. I was startled by the sexual violence that befell her, even though it was all but foretold by the dying peddler in the aforementioned lake scene, just as I was heartbroken to see the connection made between being a victim of rape and becoming a "defiled" woman condemned to prostitution. And yet, I know that such horrific things have happened - and are still happening - to women around the world.

Appalling and heartbreaking as Ohama's arc is, Lopate succinctly explains why it engages as it does: "The complex camera movement... demonstrate[s] the way that this director’s compassionate, if bitter, moral vision and his choice of camera angle reinforce each other." I was conscious while watching the film how kinetic it felt because of the camera movement, but then I've become attuned to such things. I would be keen to hear reactions from viewers accustomed to thinking of old black and white films as being static and lifeless.

In any event, what stands out most to me about Ugetsu isn't the lake scene or its camera work, but rather the overarching/underlying theme that both service: Kenji Mizoguchi's keen sensibilities about exploring the turmoil of war to find, without flinching, the humanity that endures it. It isn't a film that romanticizes suffering as nihilistic provocateurs have tried to do, but rather one that distills - without being reductive - those experiences to the personal level. It's precisely because the film is so focused on these few characters that it can speak to all of us.

Ugetsu Trailer (3:34) ***
Much as we decry the rise of the spoiler-heavy trailer, the truth is that it's been with us all along. In this case, though, I can understand how the intent was to tap into audience identification with its inspirational material, to reassure that the film did hit the highlights. I'm glad I watched this after the film, though.

Process and Production (20:14) *****
As mentioned above, this was terrific from start to finish, swiftly covering everything from thematic commentary to production secrets and some entertaining biographical notes about Kenji Mizoguchi himself. I would read an entire book by Tokuzo Tanaka just reminiscing about such things, though obviously what I really mean is that I would read a translation of that book because I don't read Japanese.

Two Worlds Intertwined (14:09) ****
It's not your fault, Masahiro Shinoda. I'm sure if I'd watched your video featurette first, I'd have thought more of it. But Tanaka is a tough act to follow. Still, I did appreciate the perspective that Shinoda offered on Mizoguchi as storyteller.

Ugetsu entered my Flickchart at #52/1651


Ugetsu
-X- Decade: 1950 (1953)
-X- Spine Range: #301-350 (#309)
-X- Language (Japanese)
-X- Explore People - Kenji Mizoguchi
-X- Essay: Ugetsu by Keiko McDonald
-X- Essay: Ugetsu: From the Other Shore by Phillip Lopate
-X- Supplemental Interview: Process and Production (20:14)
-X- Supplemental Interview: Two Worlds Intertwined (14:09)
-X- Theatrical Trailer (3:34)

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Old 09-16-14 | 01:00 AM
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I've not been watching as many movies as I felt I would, but I have been watching a few here and there. Last night I watched Charade with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant. Hailed as the best Hitchcock movie not made by Hitchcock, it almost lives up to that moniker. It really does have a Hitchcock feel to it. I wouldn't say it was the best film I've ever watched, but it was an enjoyable viewing. If you're looking for something fun to watch, this is probably it.

I also picked up The Qatsi Trilogy and watched Koyaanisqatsi tonight. I'm pretty sure I watched one of these last year, but don't remember which one, but am pretty sure it wasn't this one. I remember liking the music and thought the visuals were beautiful. This one is based on the disruptions in life and was not really a beautiful movie, more of a "hey, we're screwing with the earth and this is what we're doing to it" in my opinion. Music was much more of a downer, harsher notes. It also flashed me back to when I traveled to India in college and was invited (along with my travel group) to visit a compound. They showed us this really bizarre propaganda film. Both that film and this one had several images in common-the atomic bomb going off, explosions, random people and scenery shots...the only thing missing was a shot from The Planet of the Apes.

The next two shall be interesting to see what they contain!
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Had a viewing failure the other day. Tried to watch the experimental Hollis Frampton film Zorns Lemma and just could not 'get it'.
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Had a viewing failure the other day. Tried to watch the experimental Hollis Frampton film Zorns Lemma and just could not 'get it'.
"Get" some bourbon and try again.
Old 09-16-14 | 11:39 AM
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Got my replacement copy of the Criterion Collection version of Life of Brian today. It may be blasphemy, but I always enjoyed that one more than Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
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Got my replacement copy of the Criterion Collection version of Life of Brian today. It may be blasphemy, but I always enjoyed that one more than Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Life of Brian is, to date, the only Monty Python movie or show I've ever watched that I actually liked.
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I've not been watching as many movies as I felt I would, but I have been watching a few here and there. Last night I watched Charade with Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant. Hailed as the best Hitchcock movie not made by Hitchcock, it almost lives up to that moniker. It really does have a Hitchcock feel to it. I wouldn't say it was the best film I've ever watched, but it was an enjoyable viewing. If you're looking for something fun to watch, this is probably it.
It's good breezy fun, Hitchcock-lite. I kind of have an empty feeling after I watch, like eating cotton candy, but I enjoy it. It's on my list to get in before the end of the month.

I'm old enough in media collecting to have the famously "gorgeous" Criterion DVD, which turned out to be not anamorphically enhanced. Then there were all the public-domain editions, the anamorphic version as an extra on The Truth About Charlie, then the Criterion BD, which I also have. No better time to open it than now!
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Life of Brian is, to date, the only Monty Python movie or show I've ever watched that I actually liked.
Glad to know I'm not alone then.
Old 09-16-14 | 12:31 PM
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Had a viewing failure the other day. Tried to watch the experimental Hollis Frampton film Zorns Lemma and just could not 'get it'.
I seriously hope this is the last experimental short-film compilation we'll see from Criterion for a long time. Not only can these shorts be infuriating to watch, but they cause your "Unchecked" pile at ICM to be more daunting.
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While browsing Hulu, I found another movie to add to the animation list of Criterion, Watership Down.
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D'oh! Here it is on the 16th of the month and I completely forgot about this challenge. It's the only one during the year that interests me and I love using it as an excuse to make a dent in my unwatched pile or to revisit some titles I haven't seen in a while. Of course with a teething 5 month old at home now, I barely have time to watch a complete movie. Even if I do, the odds of me staying awake are slim. Still, I'll have to see if I can get a couple in before the month's over.

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(This was my first ever Powell/Pressburger film.)
I absolutely adore The Red Shoes. I'm sorry you didn't love it at first sight. Anton Walbrook gives such an amazing performance and that dance number is worthy of all the hype. Also, Jack Cardiff's technicolor cinematography is one of the greatest pleasures the movies have ever given us. Please check out some of Powell and Pressburger's other films if you get a chance. There are so many great ones. The already mentioned Black Narcissus, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, The Small Back Room, and The 49th Parallel are all favorites of mine.
Old 09-16-14 | 04:21 PM
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Just watched Ace in the Hole today. And man what a film! I can't believe that Kirk Douglas didn't get an Oscar nomination. Jan Sterling was great as Lorraine Minosa. She's almost as desperate as he is. Almost everyone in the film is transfixed with the fame (and money) and power the story has given to the mine and it's small surrounding town. And that scene near the end where Chuck is telling Lorraine to put on the fur is one of the best. Probably one of the best Criterion blind buys I've made.

The only extra I watched was the Spike Lee afterword and that clip was really funny and entertaining.
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Looks like I picked the perfect time to add Cinemax. I wanted to sample a couple movie channel packages, so I lowered my cable plan to add Showtime and Cinemax. While looking through my guide, what do I see? The Rock at 6:40 PM EST. Already got my DVR set to record it. I had to lose a few channels I enjoyed, so when I get the funds in a couple days, I'm going back to my old plan, and will decide what movie package I want to keep. For those who have them, what are some opinions on what channels have the better movies? Cinemax or Showtime?
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For those who have them, what are some opinions on what channels have the better movies? Cinemax or Showtime?
As an old man, I would choose Encore over the others. There's stuff that's not as new that not found as easily. Cinemax and Showtime show lots of movies that are readily accessible elsewhere.


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