Originally Posted by Indy24LA (Post 11751273)

If there's going to be a thread-tiff, at least make it a good one... like should EVERY episode of MST3k be eligible or not. Doesn't feel like there's any passion over the counting system. Back in my day, there were REAL thread wars :)

Originally Posted by Dimension X (Post 11751196)

Once again I'm sorry I pissed you off. And now I will "throw a fit."

I'm out.

Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 11751288)

And this is why I am not running this challenge next year, and just forthe sake of information, someone else will have to run the animation challenge as well. I feel I have failed as a host and have ruined the challenge.

Originally Posted by Dimension X (Post 11750714)

That's pretty much the way I felt when I read the comments against changing the Comedy Challenge to "easy counting." :lol: It'll get better. Most of us really are easy to get along with.

Sorry if I pissed you off though. That wasn't my intent.

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 11751432)

I suggest we just watch some good sci-fi and make decisions about the future once we've had a chance to settle in.

Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 11751288)

And this is why I am not running this challenge next year, and just forthe sake of information, someone else will have to run the animation challenge as well. I feel I have failed as a host and have ruined the challenge.

Originally Posted by shellebelle (Post 11751453)

Shadokitty I think you've done a wonderful job as host. You haven't failed or ruined anything by being the host this year. I commend you for taking on this challenge for us. I think a lot of the people have forgotten that this is supposed to be a FUN thing and to just go and enjoy watching a bunch of science fiction movies. Isn't that the ultimate goal? Watch, discuss and find hidden gems from others. This is what I get out this and all the challenges I participate in.

Sorry if that was long winded but just wanted you to know you had someone in your corner.

Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 11751288)

I feel I have failed as a host and have ruined the challenge.

Originally Posted by Travis S. McClain (Post 11751156)

God, I hate that movie. I'm an almost shameless apologist for 90% of every movie I have ever seen, finding redeemable elements in even the most generic tripe, but I have absolutely not one good thing to say about All Dogs Go to Heaven. Not one. The best I could manage is that the character designs and artwork aren't terrible. They don't really wow me in any way, but I don't hate them. That's it.

It's funny; just yesterday I found myself in a conversation about how when I was a kid, McDonald's legitimized movies. Whichever kid movie had the McD's tie-in seemed vetted and trustworthy. All Dogs Go to Heaven's fast food tie-in was at Wendy's. Wendy's! That should have been the red flag. But my baby brother loved dogs. He would watch anything with a dog in it. And so we had to go see All Dogs Go to Heaven.

I get that it's an "anti-Disney" film and that it set out to give us something different. That's a perfectly fine starting point. But at no point did I ever like or care about a single character. I wanted someone to call child protective services to take care of the little girl and when it became obvious that wasn't even a consideration, I pretty much quit caring what became of her, too. The songs are generic, but even worse only snippets of them seem to be performed. It's as though Bluth felt obligated to use songs but had no interest in them so he interrupts them all to get back to the bleak narrative. He shouldn't have even bothered with songs. He showed even less patience with songs in Rock-A-Doodle.

I could go on with my contempt for that film but I really don't want to come off as bashing what anyone else digs. I'm just really bad about keeping my trap shut when it comes to how much I hate that one!

Originally Posted by ntnon (Post 11751517)

I looked up a list of the top Sci-Fi films, and try and see as many as I could. It's not looking likely!

My Alien(s) box has wandered off; my Blade Runner is buried somewhere; apparently I never owned Terminator and the library has NONE of them. It has half a dozen copies of AvP, though, as if to pretend to compensate... Not even District 9.

Also, Amazon has all the Star Trek films streaming Prime-ly except Search for Spock, which also isn't at the library, so unless I go out of order I can't even watch those.

First world problems! ;)

Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 11751554)

Thank you for the support everyone, and I am thrilled to see lively discussion still going on in this thread as well. :thumbsup: Let's keep it up everyone. Also I have reconsidered, and if enough people want me to, I will run the animation callenge if no one else does.

Originally Posted by Indy24LA (Post 11751608)

I second your nomination to run the animation challenge! My problem is do I watch Heavy Metal now or wait till August?????

Originally Posted by Travis S. McClain (Post 11751171)

Regarding the rules changes, it's not very fair to shadokitty to pitch a fit now. The discussion thread started well in advance of yesterday and there was more than ample time for anyone to raise any questions. Counting method is always a point of contention but really, unless there is a prize being awarded based on how much anyone watches - and in this year's challenge, there isn't - what difference does it really make?

Originally Posted by Travis S. McClain (Post 11751171)

One of the things that participating in the Criterion Challenge has really taught me is that I'm not competing with the other participants. I'm competing with myself. Some participants can watch movies where they work. Some have three kids, two jobs, night classes and 90 minutes a week where they can try to squeeze in some viewing. The "Watch 100 Movies in a Month" template that launched the Horror Challenge has pretty well died off as a formal goal because it's simply not practical for a lot of forum members. That's okay.

Because you're competing with yourself, you can choose to go for that 100 Movie threshold if you want. You can choose to restrict yourself only to feature films and eschew all TV content and short films. You can do that and take pride that you've done it old school. I get that. But really, who else will ever know or care that you did? No one. I'm not saying that to be snotty. I'm saying it to make my case that it's liberating to only compete with oneself. And if you're competing with just yourself, it shouldn't bother you how my competition with myself goes.

Originally Posted by Travis S. McClain (Post 11751171)

shadokitty is right to emphasize *content* over technical issues. To that end, I have to say that this year's checklist expansions were all wonderful ideas (and I'm not just saying that become some of them were mine!). Hugo/Nebula Award Winners? Bradbury? These things should have been there all along. And remember, the checklist is always optional...

Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 11751288)

And this is why I am not running this challenge next year, and just forthe sake of information, someone else will have to run the animation challenge as well. I feel I have failed as a host and have ruined the challenge.

Originally Posted by shellebelle (Post 11751453)

Shadokitty I think you've done a wonderful job as host. You haven't failed or ruined anything by being the host this year. I commend you for taking on this challenge for us. I think a lot of the people have forgotten that this is supposed to be a FUN thing and to just go and enjoy watching a bunch of science fiction movies. Isn't that the ultimate goal? Watch, discuss and find hidden gems from others. This is what I get out this and all the challenges I participate in.

Sorry if that was long winded but just wanted you to know you had someone in your corner.

Originally Posted by shadokitty (Post 11751288)

And this is why I am not running this challenge next year, and just forthe sake of information, someone else will have to run the animation challenge as well. I feel I have failed as a host and have ruined the challenge.

Originally Posted by mrcellophane (Post 11751527)

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!!!

Originally Posted by shellebelle (Post 11751453)

Shadokitty I think you've done a wonderful job as host. You haven't failed or ruined anything by being the host this year. I commend you for taking on this challenge for us. I think a lot of the people have forgotten that this is supposed to be a FUN thing and to just go and enjoy watching a bunch of science fiction movies. Isn't that the ultimate goal? Watch, discuss and find hidden gems from others. This is what I get out this and all the challenges I participate in.

Sorry if that was long winded but just wanted you to know you had someone in your corner.