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I watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid last knight. It's the first time I've seen the film since the original run in '69. I enjoyed it more this time (mainly because I wasn't on a "first date" like in '69) but still don't quite understand why it gets so much appreciation/love.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is traditionally classified as a Western. I've heard it derisively called "a Western for people who don't like/are embarrassed by Westerns". I've come to feel that it's best viewed instead not as a Western at all, but rather as a period piece about the twilight of the Nineteenth Century and the dawn of the Twentieth. We see the rise of modernity as it threatens the outlaws from the very first shot of the film:
BUTCH: "What happened to the old bank? It was beautiful!"
ARMED GUARD: "People kept robbing it."
BUTCH (dejected): "Small price to pay for beauty."
The obvious symbol of modernity is the bicycle, the "future" that Butch ultimately rejects. It isn't even the law that really catches them; it's the 20th Century. Sheriff Bledsoe admonishes them by flaunting the threat that the new era poses to them: "It's over! Don't you get that? Your times is over and you're gonna die, bloody. And all you can do is choose where." It's almost cruel that even the power of that choice exists only because of modern means of transportation (ocean liner and train). These are analog guys in a digital world. (Or whatever guys were in the world before analog!) No wonder it found an appreciative audience in the fall of 1969! That's one of the key things, really. Like the best science-fiction, there's an allegorical aspect to the film that makes it accessible to any viewers who feel the world is passing them by.
"But I don't identify with robbers!" you might protest. The film actually addresses that for us with Butch's delightful takedown of E.H. Harriman (of the Union Pacific Railroad):
"A set-up like that costs more than we ever took...That crazy Harriman. That's bad business! How long do you think I'd stay in operation if every time I pulled a job, it cost me money? If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbin' him, I'd stop robbin' him. [Yelling to the non-existent Harriman] Probably inherited every penny you got! Those inherited guys - what the hell do they know?"
It's a timeless rationalization for theft, but since we already like these guys by that point in the picture, we take it at face value that, yeah, E.H. Harriman of the Union Pacific Railroad is sitting on top of so much money that he's actually making bad business decisions like overspending to catch Butch and Sundance. Why, it's downright irresponsible! Screw that guy! Part of the fun is vicariously exacting our revenge on all those powerful people whose whims impact our daily lives.
I finally got to see Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid on the big screen earlier this year when it played as part of the Cinemark Classic Series. What struck me most then was Conrad Hall's cinematography. From my Letterboxd diary:
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I could (obviously!) go on about things to appreciate about the film, but I think that's quite enough for one post.
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True crime might make a good checklist addition next year.
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I'd recommend seeing it before buying it. I liked it because I'm interested in the period and could see beyond the historical inaccuracies. FWIW, I think Roger Corman's VON RICHTHOFFEN AND BROWN is a much better film on the subject. Corman takes the position that von Richthoffen was an aristocrat, the last of the "gentlemen" fighters and that Brown was more of an average every-man, so he looks at their battle as a change in the way war was fought. Typically of Corman it was a low budget production and that hurts the film ins some ways.
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I just finished Argo-a first time watch for me. I really enjoyed it. I thought that on top of the story telling, the visual image of the whole thing was great. It felt like 1979/1980. Even the color tone of the film was touched to make it feel that way. The small doc on the disc was interesting-the actual people involved talking about what happened. I figured that there were going to be dramatics added-it is a film-but it doesn't sound like they were too liberal with the facts.
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I just finished Argo-a first time watch for me. I really enjoyed it. I thought that on top of the story telling, the visual image of the whole thing was great. It felt like 1979/1980. Even the color tone of the film was touched to make it feel that way. The small doc on the disc was interesting-the actual people involved talking about what happened. I figured that there were going to be dramatics added-it is a film-but it doesn't sound like they were too liberal with the facts.
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Today I watched The Conspirator. I forget how and why it showed up - probably while searching for Abraham Lincoln - on Amazon, but it looked interesting and wasn't 3 hours long, so I added it to my list and it made the cut.
First off, I must say that the entire cast did a great job - I did not recognize Kevin Kline or Robin Wright (although I guessed who she was playing) - but I was very amused to spot Colm Meaney again, and in quite an important role. I'm now reading up on the films accuracy, and the first thing I read said that it is the first film of the American Film Company, and "in keeping with the company's goal to create historically accurate films, Pulitzer Prize winner James McPherson, Lincoln assassination expert Thomas Turner, and Army historian Col. Fred Borch consulted" on it. Which is not an immediate indicator of scrupulous future accuracy, but it's a great start to find a company making the effort to dramatize history accurately.
If it is accurate, it's damning. I didn't know any of it - I thought John Wilkes Booth was the lone assassin. I wasn't aware of the network around JWB - although it makes sense, given (for example) Guy Fawkes being the fall guy for a far wider conspiracy. But the circumstances surrounding the hanging of a peripherally-involved hanger-on's mother is abominable. With stories like that in the past, some of the more-recent criticisms of various legal happenings seem to gain a bit more perspective.
On a completely separate note, I'm feeling tempted to find the time and resources "one day" to create a super Lincoln 12+ hour epic film by cutting together all the footage from the many, many that show various elements of the whole story: Young Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln, The Conspirator... I think it might be fascinating. If lengthy.
First off, I must say that the entire cast did a great job - I did not recognize Kevin Kline or Robin Wright (although I guessed who she was playing) - but I was very amused to spot Colm Meaney again, and in quite an important role. I'm now reading up on the films accuracy, and the first thing I read said that it is the first film of the American Film Company, and "in keeping with the company's goal to create historically accurate films, Pulitzer Prize winner James McPherson, Lincoln assassination expert Thomas Turner, and Army historian Col. Fred Borch consulted" on it. Which is not an immediate indicator of scrupulous future accuracy, but it's a great start to find a company making the effort to dramatize history accurately.
If it is accurate, it's damning. I didn't know any of it - I thought John Wilkes Booth was the lone assassin. I wasn't aware of the network around JWB - although it makes sense, given (for example) Guy Fawkes being the fall guy for a far wider conspiracy. But the circumstances surrounding the hanging of a peripherally-involved hanger-on's mother is abominable. With stories like that in the past, some of the more-recent criticisms of various legal happenings seem to gain a bit more perspective.
On a completely separate note, I'm feeling tempted to find the time and resources "one day" to create a super Lincoln 12+ hour epic film by cutting together all the footage from the many, many that show various elements of the whole story: Young Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln, The Conspirator... I think it might be fascinating. If lengthy.
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Inspired by “Rose of Versailles,” I dug out my two film versions of MARIE ANTOINETTE and watched them on Sunday-Monday. The 1938 film version, starring Norma Shearer, turns out to be the best first-time viewing of this challenge so far and one of the best Hollywood films of the 1930s I’ve ever seen. It’s 157 minutes and tells the whole story of Marie from her arrival in France as a teenager to her death on the guillotine in 1793 (220 years ago this October 16) at the age of 37. (Shearer was 35 when she made this.) Shearer was a big star in the 1930s, but retired in 1942 and is not as well remembered today because she didn’t make the kinds of films that became cult hits (or faves of feminists) the way Bette Davis, Katharine Hepburn, Joan Crawford and Barbara Stanwyck, et al, did. I’ve never had much use for Shearer, having seen her in only three or four other films before this. But she’s magnificent in this film. She really keys into the emotional reality of the character and that’s what drives the film from start to finish as her emotional and physical desires come into conflict with the duties of her position. She enters into an arranged marriage with an extremely socially awkward man and goes through a period of hedonism before settling into her role as queen and defending her husband and the court’s interests with ferocity, culminating in a refusal to flee during the French Revolution, insisting she stay by her husband’s side. Eventually, the royal couple is persuaded to attempt an escape, the sad outcome of which is well-known. I found the film gripping throughout and incredibly suspenseful at times.
Robert Morley plays her husband, the prince, Louis-Auguste, who is eventually crowned King of France and becomes the ill-fated Louis XVI, after the death of his grandfather, Louis XV (colorfully played by John Barrymore). The prince is more interested in making locks than in spending time with his wife and only gradually gets it together to perform his royal matrimonial duties and father an heir. Morley’s performance is quite poignant, playing Louis as a wounded soul, having constantly been made fun of all his life. (“I’m not clever like my brothers.”) The way he plays him leads us to think that Louis may have been autistic or had Asperger’s Syndrome or something. I wonder if there was any kind of intent like that. But it makes the performance very modern.
And the production is lavish in the best MGM manner, with massive sets depicting the chambers of Versailles and sweeping camera movements and beautiful costumes and hairstyles until the onset of the Revolution and the loss of their servants and grooming accessories and the emergence of a vengeful mob as the dominant force.
It’s quite an adult film, too, in the way it treats the inability of the royal couple to have children for the first few years of their marriage and the way they’re ridiculed and taunted because of that. It’s obvious that Marie has her flings with others, most notably Count Fersen from Sweden (played by a young, exceedingly handsome Tyrone Power). And when the mob takes over, their murderous cruelty is suggested if not exactly shown, but in an unmistakably harrowing way.
Oh, and Benjamin Franklin makes a cameo appearance.
I then watched Sofia Coppola’s 2006 version, which is very pretty on the surface and has its good points, but keeps its characters at too much of a distance and never allows us to get emotionally involved with them, in the way that “Rose of Versailles” and the 1938 film do. The best scenes involve Louis XV and his mistress, Madame Du Barry, chiefly because they’re allowed to be the most lusty, the most human, and are wonderfully played by Rip Torn and Asia Argento (with a 44-year age gap between them). Even as the Revolution approaches, though, there’s no urgency, no suspense. We don’t really care. Kirsten Dunst is okay, I guess, but Jason Schwartzman as Louis-Auguste is too handsome for the role and looks too much like Stanley Tucci.
I think I understand (or maybe I don't) what Coppola was trying to do--showing how much Marie and her entourage were "just like us" (i.e. the young mall girls watching the film in 2006), but I don't know how true that would be. She wants to show what the daily experience was like, but something's missing there.
Robert Morley plays her husband, the prince, Louis-Auguste, who is eventually crowned King of France and becomes the ill-fated Louis XVI, after the death of his grandfather, Louis XV (colorfully played by John Barrymore). The prince is more interested in making locks than in spending time with his wife and only gradually gets it together to perform his royal matrimonial duties and father an heir. Morley’s performance is quite poignant, playing Louis as a wounded soul, having constantly been made fun of all his life. (“I’m not clever like my brothers.”) The way he plays him leads us to think that Louis may have been autistic or had Asperger’s Syndrome or something. I wonder if there was any kind of intent like that. But it makes the performance very modern.
And the production is lavish in the best MGM manner, with massive sets depicting the chambers of Versailles and sweeping camera movements and beautiful costumes and hairstyles until the onset of the Revolution and the loss of their servants and grooming accessories and the emergence of a vengeful mob as the dominant force.
It’s quite an adult film, too, in the way it treats the inability of the royal couple to have children for the first few years of their marriage and the way they’re ridiculed and taunted because of that. It’s obvious that Marie has her flings with others, most notably Count Fersen from Sweden (played by a young, exceedingly handsome Tyrone Power). And when the mob takes over, their murderous cruelty is suggested if not exactly shown, but in an unmistakably harrowing way.
Oh, and Benjamin Franklin makes a cameo appearance.
I then watched Sofia Coppola’s 2006 version, which is very pretty on the surface and has its good points, but keeps its characters at too much of a distance and never allows us to get emotionally involved with them, in the way that “Rose of Versailles” and the 1938 film do. The best scenes involve Louis XV and his mistress, Madame Du Barry, chiefly because they’re allowed to be the most lusty, the most human, and are wonderfully played by Rip Torn and Asia Argento (with a 44-year age gap between them). Even as the Revolution approaches, though, there’s no urgency, no suspense. We don’t really care. Kirsten Dunst is okay, I guess, but Jason Schwartzman as Louis-Auguste is too handsome for the role and looks too much like Stanley Tucci.
I think I understand (or maybe I don't) what Coppola was trying to do--showing how much Marie and her entourage were "just like us" (i.e. the young mall girls watching the film in 2006), but I don't know how true that would be. She wants to show what the daily experience was like, but something's missing there.
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I then watched Sofia Coppola’s 2006 version, which is very pretty on the surface and has its good points, but keeps its characters at too much of a distance and never allows us to get emotionally involved with them, in the way that “Rose of Versailles” and the 1938 film do. The best scenes involve Louis XV and his mistress, Madame Du Barry, chiefly because they’re allowed to be the most lusty, the most human, and are wonderfully played by Rip Torn and Asia Argento (with a 44-year age gap between them). Even as the Revolution approaches, though, there’s no urgency, no suspense. We don’t really care. Kirsten Dunst is okay, I guess, but Jason Schwartzman as Louis-Auguste is too handsome for the role and looks too much like Stanley Tucci.
She became the culprit de facto because she was Austrian rather than French and blame for perceived slights and indifference toward the French people were easily attributed - however unfairly - to her on the basis that she wasn't one of the people. It's actually important that Coppola told Marie's story the way she did, because the self-indulgent "Let them eat cake" woman who exists in the minds of so many isn't really consistent with what we actually know about Marie. Look at the numerous scenes in which Marie is completely put off by the ridiculously lavish practices at Versailles, such as not even dressing herself. In another time, she may have had the self-confidence to have affected change. But truly, she held no meaningful power despite her title.
Having studied Marie as I have, I really appreciated Coppola's depiction of the isolation that Marie faced. 99% of the entire film takes place strictly at Versailles, a key reminder how isolated both she and the ruling class in general really had been. We're accustomed to films trying to smother us in recognizable, identifiable portrayals of historical figures, but that isn't what Coppola went for. She doesn't care whether we get a sense of who this bishop is or that duke, or any of the entire lot - because Marie herself had very distant relationships with those people.
That sense of distance is the most important and most powerful element of the entire picture, and Coppola nailed it.
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If it is accurate, it's damning. I didn't know any of it - I thought John Wilkes Booth was the lone assassin. I wasn't aware of the network around JWB - although it makes sense, given (for example) Guy Fawkes being the fall guy for a far wider conspiracy. But the circumstances surrounding the hanging of a peripherally-involved hanger-on's mother is abominable. With stories like that in the past, some of the more-recent criticisms of various legal happenings seem to gain a bit more perspective.
On a completely separate note, I'm feeling tempted to find the time and resources "one day" to create a super Lincoln 12+ hour epic film by cutting together all the footage from the many, many that show various elements of the whole story: Young Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln, The Conspirator... I think it might be fascinating. If lengthy.
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What I loved about Coppola's Marie Antoinette is how clearly she creates the sense of isolation that the queen felt at the palace court. There are only a handful of brief scenes in the entire film without Dunst in them, so the film is told almost exclusively from her point of view. That distance you describe that keeps us from connecting with the other characters is deliberate and an important element of the film. We're meant to see how much of an outsider Marie was at Versailles, which is an important part of Coppola's thesis - that despite the way that the queen was perceived and portrayed at the time and in legacy, she really wasn't very powerful within the monarchy and held very little sway over things.
She became the culprit de facto because she was Austrian rather than French and blame for perceived slights and indifference toward the French people were easily attributed - however unfairly - to her on the basis that she wasn't one of the people. It's actually important that Coppola told Marie's story the way she did, because the self-indulgent "Let them eat cake" woman who exists in the minds of so many isn't really consistent with what we actually know about Marie. Look at the numerous scenes in which Marie is completely put off by the ridiculously lavish practices at Versailles, such as not even dressing herself. In another time, she may have had the self-confidence to have affected change. But truly, she held no meaningful power despite her title.
Having studied Marie as I have, I really appreciated Coppola's depiction of the isolation that Marie faced. 99% of the entire film takes place strictly at Versailles, a key reminder how isolated both she and the ruling class in general really had been. We're accustomed to films trying to smother us in recognizable, identifiable portrayals of historical figures, but that isn't what Coppola went for. She doesn't care whether we get a sense of who this bishop is or that duke, or any of the entire lot - because Marie herself had very distant relationships with those people.
That sense of distance is the most important and most powerful element of the entire picture, and Coppola nailed it.
She became the culprit de facto because she was Austrian rather than French and blame for perceived slights and indifference toward the French people were easily attributed - however unfairly - to her on the basis that she wasn't one of the people. It's actually important that Coppola told Marie's story the way she did, because the self-indulgent "Let them eat cake" woman who exists in the minds of so many isn't really consistent with what we actually know about Marie. Look at the numerous scenes in which Marie is completely put off by the ridiculously lavish practices at Versailles, such as not even dressing herself. In another time, she may have had the self-confidence to have affected change. But truly, she held no meaningful power despite her title.
Having studied Marie as I have, I really appreciated Coppola's depiction of the isolation that Marie faced. 99% of the entire film takes place strictly at Versailles, a key reminder how isolated both she and the ruling class in general really had been. We're accustomed to films trying to smother us in recognizable, identifiable portrayals of historical figures, but that isn't what Coppola went for. She doesn't care whether we get a sense of who this bishop is or that duke, or any of the entire lot - because Marie herself had very distant relationships with those people.
That sense of distance is the most important and most powerful element of the entire picture, and Coppola nailed it.
In any event, last night I picked up a copy of the book Coppola based this on, "Marie Antoinette: The Journey," by Antonia Fraser, and started reading it.
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Today I decided I was in the mood to watch Hidalgo, but unfortunately the DVD Binder it is in seems to have gone MIA.
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Too true about Argo! I enjoyed it a lot, but
I got caught up in a Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman marathon. I was just going to watch an episode while eating breakfast, but ended up watching all of the second season. While I can see its flaws and limitations, I absolutely love the show. Jane Seymour is really engaging and makes watching almost compulsory; I have to see what she will do next.
There are quite a few interesting episodes in the second season - most notable for me were:
2.6/7: "Where the Heart Is" - Dr. Quinn and family visit Boston when her mother falls ill. It was nice to see the principle characters thrown into new surroundings and get out of their comfort zones. Not surprisingly, Colleen wants to stay in Boston while Matthew wants to leave as soon as possible.
2.13: "The Offering" - A typhus outbreak happens when the US Army gives contaminated blankets to the local Cheyennes. This episode is really interesting because it keeps the villains out of the picture.
2.20: "The First Circle" - The KKK comes to town after Robert E. and Grace buy a house in town. Unfortunately, no one has heard of this new group before, nor knows its purpose. Thus, we are treated to unsettling scenes such as Dr. Quinn and the townswomen sewing KKK insignia on white robes and Matthew all decked out in his robes. It is a very tense and emotional episode.
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I got caught up in a Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman marathon. I was just going to watch an episode while eating breakfast, but ended up watching all of the second season. While I can see its flaws and limitations, I absolutely love the show. Jane Seymour is really engaging and makes watching almost compulsory; I have to see what she will do next.
There are quite a few interesting episodes in the second season - most notable for me were:
2.6/7: "Where the Heart Is" - Dr. Quinn and family visit Boston when her mother falls ill. It was nice to see the principle characters thrown into new surroundings and get out of their comfort zones. Not surprisingly, Colleen wants to stay in Boston while Matthew wants to leave as soon as possible.
2.13: "The Offering" - A typhus outbreak happens when the US Army gives contaminated blankets to the local Cheyennes. This episode is really interesting because it keeps the villains out of the picture.
Spoiler:
2.20: "The First Circle" - The KKK comes to town after Robert E. and Grace buy a house in town. Unfortunately, no one has heard of this new group before, nor knows its purpose. Thus, we are treated to unsettling scenes such as Dr. Quinn and the townswomen sewing KKK insignia on white robes and Matthew all decked out in his robes. It is a very tense and emotional episode.
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Yes, although for me it was really tense: it was such a minor thing, and exactly the sort of thing that could scupper everything.
The interviews, I think, talked about the wait in the lounge being far longer than on screen, which i'm glad they trimmed, but... I cannot imagine how awful that would have been.
What?! Isn't that over twenty hours? Did you... ...oh, I see. I read that as you watching the whole second season in a day, and was thinking that that was a near-impossible Herculean feat.
The interviews, I think, talked about the wait in the lounge being far longer than on screen, which i'm glad they trimmed, but... I cannot imagine how awful that would have been.
What?! Isn't that over twenty hours? Did you... ...oh, I see. I read that as you watching the whole second season in a day, and was thinking that that was a near-impossible Herculean feat.
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The film you describe, Travis, might have been a great movie, but I don't think it's the one that Coppola made. You're reading a lot into it, maybe more than is there, which is easy to do with a film like that. Or maybe the distanced approach is keeping me too much at a distance from what's going on in the film.
In any event, last night I picked up a copy of the book Coppola based this on, "Marie Antoinette: The Journey," by Antonia Fraser, and started reading it.
Am I that predictable? :P
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Yes, although for me it was really tense: it was such a minor thing, and exactly the sort of thing that could scupper everything.
The interviews, I think, talked about the wait in the lounge being far longer than on screen, which i'm glad they trimmed, but... I cannot imagine how awful that would have been.
The interviews, I think, talked about the wait in the lounge being far longer than on screen, which i'm glad they trimmed, but... I cannot imagine how awful that would have been.
LOL! I should have noted the time frame for my marathon! However, it isn't impossible. You could watch all 27 episodes and have three hours left. Totally doable :P. I can't figure out how I watched so many episodes is such a short amount of time; once I started, I couldn't stop. I think they sprinkled it with whatever the television equivalent of crack is.
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I concede it's possible, but I reject that it's likely. I'm pretty astute about such things. All the examples I pointed to are clearly in the film. All that remains is to question whether they were deliberate storytelling choices or if they were happenstance. With someone as specific as Sofia Coppola, I feel confident that they were deliberate storytelling choices.
Of course, I'm the guy championing Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman so my agreement may actually hurt your case!
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I'd recommend seeing it before buying it. I liked it because I'm interested in the period and could see beyond the historical inaccuracies. FWIW, I think Roger Corman's VON RICHTHOFFEN AND BROWN is a much better film on the subject. Corman takes the position that von Richthoffen was an aristocrat, the last of the "gentlemen" fighters and that Brown was more of an average every-man, so he looks at their battle as a change in the way war was fought. Typically of Corman it was a low budget production and that hurts the film ins some ways.
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In addition to the isolation of Versailles, Coppola used montages and odd time lapses to create this numbing sense of boredom and tedium. Marie's life is so controlled, and she has very little agency or personal freedom. I also think Coppola is slyly commenting on current celebrity culture through the inventive soundtrack and those wonderful montages of excess that mirror coverage of current celebrity weddings.
The contemporary music seemed jarring at first, but I really do think it services the film. Because of the proliferation of reality TV built around celebrities (and pseudo-celebrities), I think we do pick up on those cues in a way we previously might not have. We get it. We're going "backstage" to see the tedium and, as you say, lack of freedom and personal agency. It's a shorthand, but one that works by tapping into what we're familiar with and uses that as a starting point for getting us to connect to Marie.
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I went to see Schindler's List yesterday afternoon. Here are my thoughts, from my Letterboxd diary:
Schindler's List
-X- Watch 5 movies about historical events of different countries (Poland, Czechoslovakia)
-X- Film about Religious Minority (Jews)
-X- War film that focuses on civilians (Oskar Schindler)
-X- Film about war criminals (Amon Goethe)
-X- Watch 5 movies that take place during different wars. (World War II)
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Schindler's List
-X- Watch 5 movies about historical events of different countries (Poland, Czechoslovakia)
-X- Film about Religious Minority (Jews)
-X- War film that focuses on civilians (Oskar Schindler)
-X- Film about war criminals (Amon Goethe)
-X- Watch 5 movies that take place during different wars. (World War II)
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That was a really good review of Schindler's List, Travis. I'm glad you shared it.
Just finished Walt Disney Treasures: Tomorrow Land. There were segments that were better than others (the one on Mars had some great animation) but overall it was very watchable and interesting. The EPCOT section makes me wish that it had come to fruition just to see how it worked. It had some very interesting ideas on planned living.
Quick question: Anyone know if that Ray Bradbury bonus feature would be more suitable for the Sci-fi challenge or at least qualify for it? Sorry, a bit off topic.
Just finished Walt Disney Treasures: Tomorrow Land. There were segments that were better than others (the one on Mars had some great animation) but overall it was very watchable and interesting. The EPCOT section makes me wish that it had come to fruition just to see how it worked. It had some very interesting ideas on planned living.
Quick question: Anyone know if that Ray Bradbury bonus feature would be more suitable for the Sci-fi challenge or at least qualify for it? Sorry, a bit off topic.